Islamic Jihadists ISIS

[Eamonnca1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzusSqcotDw

Reza Aslan educating people on Islam.

Was just about to post that. As insightful as ever, is Mr Aslan.

[orangeman]

Another aid worker killed. More to follow.

[Mike Sheehy]

Another aid worker killed. More to follow.

utter scumbags

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29485405

How is the west responsible for this mans execution Seafoid ? I look forward to your typically mendacious, slimy way of turning this persons noble attempts at charity against him ?

No doubt he was in it for the oil ...right ? 

[Mike Sheehy]

..and I cant leave this piece of "news" pass.   Seafoid and GHD must be fuming. Those damn jews and their damn meddling....

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/Israeli-Defense-Force-rescues-Irish-troops-from-Islamist-extremists.html

[seafoid]

..and I cant leave this piece of "news" pass.   Seafoid and GHD must be fuming. Those damn jews and their damn meddling....

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/Israeli-Defense-Force-rescues-Irish-troops-from-Islamist-extremists.html

Great stuff there by the Israelis for a change. It would be even better if they didn't have to kill children in Gaza.


"  It requires a single-minded political as well as a military commitment on the part of the regional powers to a post-Isis settlement. For Turkey and Saudi Arabia regime change in Damascus and settling scores with Iran take precedence over any such accommodation between Shia and Sunni. Yet the moderate Syrian opposition ready to replace Mr Assad is a threadbare fiction
Saudi aircraft are flying sorties against Isis fighters, but Saudi Arabia remains the principal source of the fundamentalist theology that is the foundation stone for the jihadis. If Riyadh agrees that things have got out of hand, it does not want to disempower the Sunni chiefs who have provided support for the jihadi self-proclaimed caliphate.
That would be to aid the Shia-led government in Baghdad; and, worse, to give succour to Iraq's ally and Saudi Arabia's eternal enemy – Shia Iran. To a greater or lesser degree the wealthy Gulf states display the same ambivalence: Isis should be checked, but not at the expense of handing victory to Mr Assad's sponsor in Tehran."


What's your solution to ISIS?

[haveaharp]

Whoever is doing the beheading its certainly goading the west into / justifying another long campaign in the middle east. The UK for example wont be split down the middle on whether to go to war this time. Whilst the talk so far is of limited action / no boots on the ground, let's wait and see on that one.

Gutted for that poor mans family and for the other hostages already murdered or awaiting the same threat.

[Aaron Boone]

You have to wonder how many more hostages they have, 5 now and counting.
None of the hostages has ever made the public consciousness as being missing

[seafoid]

Whoever is doing the beheading its certainly goading the west into / justifying another long campaign in the middle east. The UK for example wont be split down the middle on whether to go to war this time. Whilst the talk so far is of limited action / no boots on the ground, let's wait and see on that one.

Gutted for that poor mans family and for the other hostages already murdered or awaiting the same threat.

It's a very cynical campaign. And lashing out is not the way to do it if there is no political solution involving the local powers. Saudi Arabia is sickening. 

[Mike Sheehy]

Looks like the Kurds are in serious trouble now...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/07/world/middleeast/isis-moves-into-syrian-kurdish-enclave-on-turkish-border.html?_r=0

Slaughter Is Feared as ISIS Nears Turkish Border


By KARAM SHOUMALI and ANNE BARNARDOCT. 6, 2014

Smoke rose from the Syrian Kurdish town of Kobani on Monday as Kurds fought to repel advancing Islamic State militants. Credit Umit Bektas/Reuters 


ISTANBUL — Islamic State militants pushed on Monday into the eastern edge of the Syrian Kurdish town of Kobani on the Turkish border, after sustained shelling that drove back the Kurdish fighters and Syrian insurgents fighting alongside them, killing 16 and raising fears of a massacre of civilians, Kurdish fighters and activists said.

Anwar Muslim, a coordinator in Kobani for the People's Protection Committees, a Kurdish militant group known as the Y.P.G., said Monday night that 12,000 civilians were trapped inside the town. He said that his group was running out of heavy ammunition, and with Islamic State militants close by the population was in constant fear of car bombs or suicide bombers.

Rooz Bahjat, who identified himself as a senior security official with the Kurdistan Regional Government in Iraq, said that as many as 9,000 Islamic State fighters were closing in on the area, leaving other fronts in eastern and northern Syria and even as far away as Iraq to attack what he called "a bastion of democracy and secularism" in Kobani, which has given shelter to internally displaced Syrians from a wide range of ethnic groups.
"The whole might of ISIS right now is turned onto Kobani," he said.

His information could not be independently verified, but Kurdish officials have been warning for days that without more military aid, Kobani will fall. And Islamic State fighters in Raqqa and Aleppo Provinces have said in recent interviews that they were redeploying toward Kobani after having faced United States-led airstrikes in their strongholds elsewhere in Syria.

The Kurdish militants have been hanging on as fighters from the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, have advanced with heavy weapons in a three-week assault. Kurdish women have joined the battle, and one, Kurdish and Syrian activists say, blew herself up with a grenade over the weekend rather than be captured.

Shells have sailed across the Turkish border several times in recent days, and on Monday a black Islamic State flag appeared to be flying from one of the taller buildings in Kobani, or Ayn al-Arab as it is known in Arabic, the main settlement in a group of Kurdish farming villages that has been under assault since mid-September.

Video from the front lines in recent days has shown fighters for the Islamic State advancing across fields in formation, well equipped in camouflage flak vests. Some militants have posted pictures of themselves holding the severed heads of what they say are female Kurdish fighters.

The Kurds are cut off from supply lines and surrounded by Islamic State fighters on three sides. The fourth, the Turkish border, is heavily guarded by Turkish forces, which have prevented Turkish and Syrian Kurds from joining the fight.

Turkish Army patrols watching from across a border fence have remained spectators to the fighting, even though on Monday the NATO alliance said it would aid Turkey, a member state, if it came under attack.

"Turkey should know that NATO will be there if there is any spillover, any attacks on Turkey as a consequence of the violence we see in Syria," Jens Stoltenberg, the secretary general of the alliance, said on Monday

Turkish officials have said they will assist in the fight against the Islamic State, but given Turkey's open border policy that long facilitated the movement of the extremist militants into Syria, Kurds are suspicious of its intentions. They say that Turkey views the semiautonomous Kurdish region that has developed on the Syrian side of the border as the greater threat.

Turkey's prime minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, told CNN on Monday that Turkey was ready to take many military measures, including sending ground troops to Syria, but that there needed to be "a clear strategy." Turkish officials were disappointed that President Obama did not make the ouster of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria a goal of the operation against the Islamic State, and have demanded an internationally backed no-fly zone to keep Syrian jets out of the air before taking new military action.

Airstrikes by the United States-led coalition against the Islamic State took out two of the group's positions south of Kobani on Monday, the American military said. But as Kurdish fighters pleaded for more support, the only other airstrikes on the militant group Monday were conducted elsewhere, in Raqqa and Deir al-Zour Provinces.

Syrian insurgents opposed to the Islamic State have vowed to step up cooperation with the Y.P.G., but the Syrians do not have a strong presence in the area.

The Turkish government was initially reluctant to take strong action against the Islamic State after it overran Mosul and large areas of northern Iraq in August, citing the need to safeguard 46 Turkish hostages being held by the militant group. But the hostages were freed last month in a deal that has raised further questions about the relationship between Turkey and the Islamic State. The BBC on Monday quoted unidentified security sources as saying the hostages were freed in a large prisoner exchange in which around 180 jihadists who had been held in Turkish custody, possibly including two Britons, were handed over to the Islamic State.

Turkish officials have neither confirmed nor denied the report, but on Monday a senior party official said such a deal would not have been unreasonable.

"We might have swapped thousands when lives of our nationals were at stake," said a governing party official, who asked not to be identified because he was discussing a confidential national security matter.

Elsewhere across Syria, insurgents struck on two fronts against government forces.

North of Aleppo, insurgent groups including the Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front and the American-backed Harakat Hazm fought government forces that recently seized the town of Handarat. Fighters from Hazm, which has been supplied with American-made TOW antitank weapons, have destroyed government tanks in recent days, rebels say. Rebel spokesmen on Monday said they were pushing hard to take back the town of Handarat and had captured foreigners, including Afghans and Lebanese, fighting on the government side.

In an unusual battle near the border with the Golan Heights in southern Syria, another United States-backed group, the Omari Brigades of the Syrian Revolutionaries Front, took a government air defense base on the hilltop of Tel al-Harrah and posted a video of several fighters with what they said was Russian-made government air defense equipment.

A covert United States effort to equip and train relatively moderate insurgents there has had few major successes. More aid has been promised to groups deemed moderate by American officials as part of the campaign against the Islamic State. But it was unclear whether the recent victory was because of new equipment or organization, or if it benefited from recent victories in the area by the Nusra Front.

[johnneycool]

Looks like the Kurds are in serious trouble now...

Seems like the Turks for all their bluster last week as part of the 'US led coalition' are prepared to feed the Kurds to the wolves.

As Seafoid has already said, the Turks and Saudi's are saying one thing and doing another on this one!

[seafoid]

The Kurds don't have the weapons that ISIS do. They aren't bankrolled by Saudi.
Turkey doesn't want a strong Kurdistan either.  Most Kurds live in Turkey and there is no way they are going to be allowed to decide anything. 

[Mike Sheehy]

Looks like the Kurds are in serious trouble now...

Seems like the Turks for all their bluster last week as part of the 'US led coalition' are prepared to feed the Kurds to the wolves.

As Seafoid has already said, the Turks and Saudi's are saying one thing and doing another on this one!

Yeah, but aren't you surprised that the Irish Kurdistan Solidarity Campaign (IKSC) are not more vocal
about this ?

[FLL]

Why can't the yanks just go in and wipe these madmen out? Is it because Obama is a ball less pos?

[johnneycool]

Why can't the yanks just go in and wipe these madmen out? Is it because Obama is a ball less pos?

Yeah, just like they did in Afghanistan and Iraq 

Away back to your call of duty on the x-box.

[FLL]

Hey I'm only asking a question.. And it's a playstation