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Sorry for being dumb, but what is the relevance of this story to the original post about Myers,

[losing 1 (1982)]

Look at the table below (last final in brackets).

In the last 50 years:

Kerry have been in 24 finals, losing 9 (2019)
Dublin have been in 20, losing 7 (2020)
Mayo have been in 11, losing 11 (2021)
Cork have been in 9 finals, losing 6 (2010)
Meath have been in 7, losing 3 (2001)
Tyrone have been in 7, losing 3 (2021)
Galway have been in 7 finals, losing 5 (2001)
Offaly have been in 4, losing 1 (1982)
Down have been in 3, losing 1 (2010)
Donegal have been in 3, losing 1 (2014)
Armagh have been in 3, losing 2 (2003)
Derry has been in 1, losing 0 (1993)
Roscommon have been in 1, losing 1 (1980)

It is very difficult to make it to an All Ireland final. In the last 50 years only 13 counties by my reckoning have reached All-Ireland finals. Outside of Dublin and Kerry, no-one has made it to more than Mayo. 

They have lost them all (shocking), but look at Meath, Galway, Cork - big beasts of the football world and 20 year gaps since the last appearance (and getting longer).  Bad and all as the last 10 years have been for Mayo, they have been at the top table and they have given a lot of joy (and heartache) to their followers. 

However, as Galway and Meath have found out, your place at the top table is not guaranteed. Some year, they won't bounce back and could very well slip into mediocrity.

Are you a cute Kerry hoor by any chance?? Claiming all Ireland's  that you didn't actually win

No wonder you have 37 

The year in brackets was the last year they played in an AIF - not the last year they lost.  Would love to be a cute Kerry huir, but I'm not cute, I'm not from Kerry although I might be a bit of a huir alright.

I did make a mistake with Cork. 10 finals, lost 6 the f**kers. 

There are probably other mistakes in there - in fact there definitely is.  I couldn't really give a crap to be honest. If any of you want to find them, knock yourselves out 

Interesting** theme coming through here:

Connacht teams have a terrible record in finals.  Galway and Roscommon aren't much to write home about either:
Between them , they have been in 8 and lost 6.
Ulster not bad and Leinster very impressive. 

* Win ratio in brackets

Connacht 19 finals - lost 17 (11%)
Ulster, 17 finals - lost 7 (59%)
Munster, 33 finals, lost 15 (55%)
Leinster, 31 finals, lost 11 (65%)

Of course all of this is completely meaningless, except it shows that far from being awake, the West are a pack of sleepy feckers

** The word interesting doing a lot of heavy lifting here

Interesting theme coming through here:

Connacht teams have a terrible record in finals.  Galway and Roscommon aren't much to write home about either:
Between them , they have been in 8 and lost 6.
Ulster not bad and Leinster very impressive. 

* Win ratio in brackets

Connacht 19 finals - lost 17 (11%)
Ulster, 17 finals - lost 7 (59%)
Munster, 33 finals, lost 15 (55%)
Leinster, 31 finals, lost 11 (65%)

Of course all of this is completely meaningless, except it shows that far from being awake, the West are a pack of sleepy feckers

Look at the table below (last final in brackets).

In the last 50 years:

Kerry have been in 24 finals, losing 9 (2019)
Dublin have been in 20, losing 7 (2020)
Mayo have been in 11, losing 11 (2021)
Cork have been in 9 finals, losing 6 (2010)
Meath have been in 7, losing 3 (2001)
Tyrone have been in 7, losing 3 (2021)
Galway have been in 7 finals, losing 5 (2001)
Offaly have been in 4, losing 1 (1982)
Down have been in 3, losing 1 (2010)
Donegal have been in 3, losing 1 (2014)
Armagh have been in 3, losing 2 (2003)
Derry has been in 1, losing 0 (1993)
Roscommon have been in 1, losing 1 (1980)

It is very difficult to make it to an All Ireland final. In the last 50 years only 13 counties by my reckoning have reached All-Ireland finals. Outside of Dublin and Kerry, no-one has made it to more than Mayo. 

They have lost them all (shocking), but look at Meath, Galway, Cork - big beasts of the football world and 20 year gaps since the last appearance (and getting longer).  Bad and all as the last 10 years have been for Mayo, they have been at the top table and they have given a lot of joy (and heartache) to their followers. 

However, as Galway and Meath have found out, your place at the top table is not guaranteed. Some year, they won't bounce back and could very well slip into mediocrity. 

Re: this curse. A lot was made of it when Armagh drew with Sligo in 2002. Suddenly this 'Armagh haven't won a championship match at Croke Park since 1977' began. I'd never heard of it until then and I'd say few others did.

In reality, we only played 4 or 5 games there since the 77 final. It's not like we were getting beat every year there.

Exactly, the media made it up. 
I don't remember hearing about the Mayo curse in 1996 or 1997 or even in 2004,

Grown Ups 1, bad enough
Grown Ups 2 - pure drivel

Big Fish was weird but not bad. 

Dirty Grandpa
These were quotes from critics, which were spot on by the way:
"Dirty Grandpa, is not just the worst movie De Niro has ever been in, but it may be the worst movie anyone has ever been in."
"If Dirty Grandpa isn't the worst movie of 2016, I have some serious cinematic torture in my near future."

There should be a thread about films that people say are great, but that you think are crap.

Can't get on board with Will Ferrell movies - some pure dung like Anchorman that people rave about

I can't remember a match being analysed to death as much as this one. Podcasts have been made analysing the match which have lasted longer than the actual match will itself. Pundits trying to second guess tactics, match ups, team selections etc as if it is some sort of exact science. I think we must be getting very near the point where we are reaching the peak of GAA over analysis by the media.

Exactly, all it takes is for a key player to go off injured early on or even worse sent off and it changes everything, and you cannot predict something like that.

Or a couple of OGs!

The one thing that makes me fear for Mayo is that I can't really see them losing! Both teams struggled / had to work so hard for scores to an extent in their semi-finals, but Mayo's opponents then were more proven, with less subsequent weaknesses than Kerry. Tyrone showed great stubbornness and work rate to overcome Kerry but still had to rely on the 3 goals, 2 of which were as a result of poor defending, and had the luck to see Kerry score none of their own. As poor as Galway are, I'd fancy our chances reasonably enough were we in the final tomorrow, and Mayo are much superior to us. I think they'll be stronger throughout the field and better in midfield in particular, and find scores that much easier to come by.  Mayo by 5 at least.

You can't see Mayo losing?  If there is a way to lose an All Ireland final, Mayo will inevitably find it.

Tyrone always struggle with Mayo and Mayo always struggle with finals. It's nearly impossible to call.
I hope Mayo do it; despite their inability to get over the line, they have been for me, the most inspirational team in the last 20 years. 

I seen that a publican somewhere has characterised the game as being The Curse v The Virus. 
To me its The Romantics v The Cynics

Maybe that's a bit unfair on Tyrone and Mayo are well fit for a some cynical football when its needed,

In line with that thinking, the heart says Mayo.  But the head says Tyrone get the crucial breaks at the right time and with 5 mins left, they will be defending a 3pt lead, playing keep ball, sacrificing a black cards and taking momentum out of the game at every chance they get. 

[on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland]

Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.

Was thinking about this the other day. Would it be the first time since 2012? Is 2010 the only other time this century?

Erm....

2002 and 2003. How would you forget 2003 lol

That Kerry team in 2002, most had won it in 2000.

Can't recall any All Ireland in 2003.

2012 - Mayo - Donegal - no?

It might have already been said, but I think Tyrone have a disadvantage from the 2 week turnaround after the Kerry match.  They will have spent the first week coming down from that high. Mayo on the other hand have more time adjust after coming of the high of beating Dublin.  How much will that really mean?

As a neutral fan, I think it's great that there is only a short build up to the final.  With a 3-4 week build up, you eventually get sick looking at the same meaningless articles as the media rip the bag out of it.

The UK's international relevance is now plain to be seen in how the US have treated them in terms of the Afghan withdrawal.  They were not even consulted.   The Biden administration regards the UK Brexiteers with contempt.  There is no special relationship any more because the UK cannot be that bridge to Europe and the US doesn't even seem interested in using the UK as a mudguard in the way Bush operated with Blair. 

They'll never rejoin the EU.  The process of leaving was damaging enough never mind rejoining an EU that will potentially be more centralised.   I also doubt that the EU would have them.

If Spillane's nonsense before the game was any indication of the thinking in the Kerry camp going into this game, no wonder they were beaten

Kerry very poor.  You would have thought they had Covid. 

There will rightly be many questions asked about whether this game should have been moved.  The delay was all in favour of Tyrone and you can ask questions if it should have made any difference to Kerry.  However ,they still should have had a better opportunity to prepare than Tyrone.  They looked sluggish.  It was Tyrone that looked like a team who was collectively training, while Kerry looked like they weren't.

I actually looked at the list on Boards.ie
Link here: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057173179/football-ranking-table/p35

Armagh are at 11 on the list.  The reasoning for Armagh's positioning is explained on the following page.  They had been at 7 on the table in early July, which I would argue is a better reflection of where they are at now.  They secured their place in Division 1 (playing four games instead of the usual 7). On that basis, 7th would seem about right.  However, they dropped points on this ranking following defeat to Monaghan because at that point Monaghan were below them in the table and Armagh were expected to beat them.   Arising from that Armagh lost 3.42 ranking points while Monaghan received the same.  It's quite a big swing for one game and would place Armagh at upper mid-table Division 2. But is it that unrealistic?

If Armagh were to play Cork, Meath or Kildare tomorrow, I would suggest that they would have more than a 50/50 chance of beating all three - but you couldn't depend on them. Only for their long standing poor record against Galway, I would suggest that they would beat them too, but again many doubts. All of these teams are Div 2 (coming or going).

So, I would say, the ranking is slightly un-reflective of Armagh's season and there is a kneejerk element to the loss of one game that really was a toin-coss beforehand. It cannot take account of other information, such as the fact that Armagh lost their goalie before the game. 

All that shows is that the tool isn't perfect.  It can't deal with qualitative information only the performance on the scoreboard and league table.  On the basis of that, I think its a damn fine piece of work.