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It is my understanding that the primary club will have to name 17, in Year 1, 2, 3......and so on.

Well, that rule should change. If they want the "Gaels" teams to work, they need to facilitate them. Change the rule. Allow teams who have played 'outsiders' in this year's championship to name a 17 including some outsiders, if they are genuine.

Else, name a league 17 and a championship 17 including the other clubs' players.

I disagree.
Amalgamations are the way forward. Not temporary little arrangements.

Mountmellick Gaels is Mountmellick plus Brendan Reddin. Because Castletown put in a junior team, Mountmellick had to go down the route. No one else is coming from Castletown as far as I know,  But the point is well made. A proper area amalgamation involving a Senior club  will not be a runner in the long run if 17 players have to be named.

I agree regarding the first point. It was the only functioning example I could think of.
I understand why 17 players should be named. I also understand that it will be a major stumbling block. Not in that instance, but in any proper instance.

In Year1, maybe. Surely the other club's players could be named in the 17, if they intend to join up again the following year?

It is my understanding that the primary club will have to name 17, in Year 1, 2, 3......and so on.

Mountmellick Gaels is Mountmellick plus Brendan Reddin. Because Castletown put in a junior team, Mountmellick had to go down the route. No one else is coming from Castletown as far as I know,  But the point is well made. A proper area amalgamation involving a Senior club  will not be a runner in the long run if 17 players have to be named.

I agree regarding the first point. It was the only functioning example I could think of.
I understand why 17 players should be named. I also understand that it will be a major stumbling block. Not in that instance, but in any proper instance.

As far as I know there is this strange ruling, originally brought forward by a small Junior Hurling Club, that Portlaoise would be designated an Urban Club and all other clubs in Laois would be designated Rural.

The idea was/is that normal transfer criteria is not necessary when attempting to transfer from an Urban club (Portlaoise) to a Rural club (anyone else in Laois). You did not need to be living there etc.
Also the transfer could happen at any time of the year (all other transfers needed to be completed before January 31st).

I assume Portlaoise are arguing that they are powerless to stop ANYONE transferring out of their Club to ANYWHERE whereas clubs can freely object to transfers in the opposite direction.

I hadn't heard there was an issue and the above is my sketchy understanding of the rule being discussed.

It's only on reading this back that I realise that I may not have been clear enough that the above is only my loose interpretation of the rule in question. I could be way off!

im assuming your from a big club as am i or not affiliated with one at all, the reality is that people take great pride in playing for their area, take ben conroy for example, was willing to give up senior hurling as possibly even an inter county carrer because he  would rather win a junior with slieve bloom than a senior with castletown.

You are very out of the loop and wide of the mark there!

A rule has been put in place that allows lads from any club in the county to play senior while allowing them to also play for their own community at junior, so really what benefit do amalgamations really bring?

As forward thinking as that rule is, there's an obvious problem!
For example you have Mountmellick Gaels in the SFC. Here Castletown players can play football as part of Mountmellick Gaels in the championship only.
Mountmellick, however, have to name 17 Senior players.
Supposing, come championship time that 5 Castletown players make the Mountmellick team. That means that 7 Mountmellick players don't. They can't play on any of Mountmellick's lower teams because they are named Senior.
Meanwhile the 5 Castletown players can play away at Senior with Mountmellick, while also playing Junior C with Castletown.
While that might not be an issue in this case, it would be an issue in other mooted arrangements.
In this instance Mountmellick would rely on the 17 named Senior players for the ACFL campaign, but wouldn't necessarily need them for the SFC. When it comes to grading players the following year who here would be willing to be graded Senior if you were one the peripheral members of the 17, with no prospect of meaningful championship action?
It's a flaw and it is one that the bigger of the clubs in these arrangements might not be willing to accommodate long term.

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Yeah, I'm a big fan of Jason Ryan, but his stay at Kildare (Replace with Offaly) was not so good. He did a great job in Wexford and had them very competitive.

Ditto Pat Roe

He seems off the radar now, though.

Ditto Pat Roe

As far as I know there is this strange ruling, originally brought forward by a small Junior Hurling Club, that Portlaoise would be designated an Urban Club and all other clubs in Laois would be designated Rural.

The idea was/is that normal transfer criteria is not necessary when attempting to transfer from an Urban club (Portlaoise) to a Rural club (anyone else in Laois). You did not need to be living there etc.
Also the transfer could happen at any time of the year (all other transfers needed to be completed before January 31st).

I assume Portlaoise are arguing that they are powerless to stop ANYONE transferring out of their Club to ANYWHERE whereas clubs can freely object to transfers in the opposite direction.

I hadn't heard there was an issue and the above is my sketchy understanding of the rule being discussed.

But in reality it's a 1 year issue from next year the supply chain will be normalised.

Yes, and in reality it has having a negative affect this year. That is all I said.

The problem is second teams very few clubs can do it but we nearly all have them.  I know from our own experience that their is no rhyme or reason to the way things work out with them.  Last year we were very competitive got promoted in both leagues this year we are a million miles off.  Simple factors have changed maybe costing both teams 4-5 players making getting teams together a huge job.  On our own front Division 1A & 1B seem to be very competitive and run smoothly enough.  But I am still not over Ballyfin yet who I feel should be trying to get promoted but decided not to play any games which is madness.

Ballyfin decision was/is disgraceful and shortsighted.

Also I think the change from over 16 to over 17 to play adult grades is having a negative once off effect. The totally unnecessary change meant that no club in the country gained a single new player from their juvenile ranks in 2016. 3/4 players would make a big difference to the strength of many second and third teams.

Have heard Mark Rooney Clonaslee new Minor Football Manager and Paul OShea Abbeyleix new Minor Hurling Manager.Any thought's ? Don't know anything about either of them!

Unusual appointments. First one I'd be happy enough with.
Not sure what achievements to date make the latter an appropriate appointment to this level? Nothing personal.

Should never have been given the job!

Saw the end of this.
Just sort of died off. Didn't appear to be much fight in them.

County players were all released for last 2 rounds, they've had zane for BK match, RE match & last nights match,
Castletown in flying form too, very competitive at the minute

Young team from what I see on the paper last week. Surely walk the Senior B?

Facebook/Twitter accounts, Club Websites, Email the Secretary's?

To be fair, some of Castletown's (just as an example) best prospects are still U16 and ineligible for county minor.

That said, the inaction on the line was quite worrying on Saturday...

Agreed on both counts. Also many of the big guns from last years minor winning team are overage, including some of those on the Mountrath School team. Regarding Peters, to be fair to those who hurled in the full back line, they didn't do a whole lot wrong.

Thought the line were shocking bad. Not just in terms of substitutions, but with regard to what was happening on the field.
The positioning of our half back line and midfield for our own puckouts in the second half was incredible (in a bad way). Either it was what they were told to do or it should have been corrected.

Game should have been won.

Hunger, drive and a sweeper. Dependent on long range points.
No progress on 12/24 months ago but as I said last week, i'll settle for standing still this year.