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Laois / New Jersey
« on: November 30, 2021, 09:13:18 PM »
Strange coincidence.
The first thing I thought of when I saw the new Jersey was ďwhat colour is the number going to be?Ē.

Having moved to a solid back it seems strange to move back to a striped one.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2021
« on: November 28, 2021, 08:48:38 PM »
Well... Offaly hurling was at its lowest ebb at that time, and Offaly certainly would have been ranked below Laois. I think the ease with which R/E won that game was a fair reflection of that fact.

At InterCounty level, yes.
But that was the first win in 20 years. And Rynaghs would have been favourites to win.
Ballacolla were evens last night.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2021
« on: November 28, 2021, 06:06:44 PM »
Probably Castletown...?!

I had forgotten about Rathowney Errill beating St Rynaghís. Offaly club hurling would still be considered stronger than Laois by many.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2021
« on: November 28, 2021, 05:59:51 PM »
Put the information below together for no particular reason. It has been a competition that has been very good to Laois teams and particularly to Laois hurling supporters. If not in terms of trophies, then in terms of something to follow and a consistent ability to compete with the best in the province.
The information is from Wikipedia, but from memory itís accurate in terms of results and opposition anyways.
Unfortunately, I remember almost all of them!

Played- 101 (incl. replays/excl. 3 All Ireland games)
Won- 47, Drew- 6, Lost- 48
Replays Won- 3 , Replays Lost- 3

*= Provincial Winner
**= All Ireland Finalist
***= All Ireland Winner

QF- Clonad 2-6 St Rynaghs**1-12

R1 Birr 0-6 Camross 2-7
QF Bennettsbridge 1-9 Camross 1-1

R1 Eire ”g (Kildare) 1-7 Borris in Ossory 2-7
QF Borris in Ossory 3-7 The Fenians 4-12

QF Camross 2-2 St Rynaghs 1-8

QF St Rynaghs 2-3 Camross 0-9
QF (R) Camross 1-6 St Rynaghs 2-8

QF Clonaslee 3-8 St Rynaghs 2-14

QF Camross 2-10 Kilmacud Crokes 2-8
SF Camross 2-8 St Rynaghs 1-8
F Camross 3-9 James Stephens 1-14
AISF Ballycran 0-7 Camross 3-12
AIF Glen Rovers*** 2-12 Camross 0-8

QF Eire ”g (Kildare) 0-3 Camross 2-12
SF Camross 1-5 Rathnure 1-9**

QF Kilmessan (Meath) 0-11 Camross 3-12
SF Ballyhale Shamrocks 4-12** Camross 2-2

QF Camross 6-12 Castletown Geoghegan 3-9
SF Camross 3-10 Rathnure 2-12
F Crumlin* 3-5 Camross 0-11

QF Ardclough (Kildare) 3-13 Camross 3-9

QF Naomh Eoin (Carlow) 0-5 Portlaoise 5-11
SF James Stephens*** 2-15 Portlaoise 0-9

QF Portlaoise 2-8 St Vincentís 1-5
SF Buffers Alley 1-14 Portlaoise 1-9

R1 Avondale (Wicklow) 1-8 Portlaoise 8-8
QF Buffers Alley 0-14 Portlaoise 2-9

QF Portlaoise 3-16 Raharney 0-10
SF Kinnity 2-20 Portlaoise 0-5

QF Arklow Rock Parnells (Wicklow) 2-5 Clonad 1-9
SF Buffers Alley** 5-11 Clonad 0-11

QF Camross 3-8 Faughs 0-14
SF Camross 1-7 Clara 2-3
F Rathnure** 2-16 Camross 3-9

R1 Portlaoise 2-21 Kiltegan (Wicklow) 0-7
QF Portlaoise 0-14 Glenmore 1-8
SF Portlaoise 1-12 St Rynaghs 0-7
F Rathnure* 3-8 Portlaoise 1-13

QF Portlaoise 1-9 St Vincentís 2-6
QF (R) St Vincentís 5-13 Portlaoise 5-6

QF Brownstown 1-9 Portlaoise 4-14
SF Ballyhale Shamrocks*** 1-12 Portlaoise 2-6

R1 Camross 2-15 St Patrickís (Wicklow) 1-6
QF Camross 2-9 Rathnure 2-8
SF Camross 3-8 Oí Tooleís 2-6
F Glenmore*** 0-15 Camross 1-9

R1 Naomh Eoin (Carlow) 0-7 Portlaoise 5-5
QF Portlaoise 1-4 Buffers Alley 1-12

R1 Raharney 0-11 Clonad 0-11
R1 (R) Clonad 2-11 Raharney 1-8
QF Clonad 1-9 Buffers Alley* 3-10

QF St Rynaghs* 2-13 Camross 1-13

QF Oulart the Ballagh 1-12 Camross 0-5

QF Castletown 0-8 Oulart the Ballagh 2-17

QF Camross 1-17 Loughlene Gaels 0-8
SF Camross 2-6 Rathnure 0-10
F Camross 1-12 Oí Tooleís 2-5
AISF Athenry*** 4-17 Camross 3-3

R1 Castletown 3-17 Loughlene Gaels 2-10
QF Castletown 0Ė17 Oulart the Ballagh 1-14
QF (R) Oulart the Ballagh 0-10 Castletown 1-8
SF Castletown 3-8 Oí Tooleís 2-9
F Birr*** 0-11 Castletown 0-5

QF Portlaoise w/o Trim scr
SF Portlaoise 0-6 Graigue Ballycallan 0-5
F Rathnure** 1-13 Portlaoise 1-6

QF Faughs 2-2 Castletown 1-12
SF Castletown 1-14 St Martinís (Wexford) 1-9
F Birr 1-16 Castletown 0-11

R1 Castletown 2-10 Coill Dubh (Kildare) 0-11
QF Castletown 2-10 Birr 1-8
SF Graigue Ballycallan** 2-12 Castletown 0-7

QF Kiltegan 0-4 Castletown 2-12
SF Castletown 1-10 Faythe Harriers 1-5
F Birr 0-10 Castletown 1-7
F (R) Birr*** 2-10 Castletown 0-5

R1 Castletown 2-2 Carnew Emmetts (Wicklow) 0-8
R1 (R) Carnew Emmetts 1-9 Castletown 2-13
QF Castletown 1-12 Birr*** 2-12

R1 Glenealy (Wicklow) 0-6 Castletown 2-11
QF Castletown 0-14 Craobh Chiarain (Dublin) 1-9
SF Birr 4-17 Castletown 1-9

R1 Castletown Geoghegan 1-12 Portlaoise 2-17
QF Portlaoise 0-11 UCD 1-20

QF Glenealy (Wicklow) 2-10 Castletown 2-16
SF James Stephens* 5-14 Castletown 0-8

QF Rathnure 2-13 Rathdowney Errill 0-14

SF Ballyboden St Endaís 2-9 Camross 1-11

QF Ballyhale Shamrocks* 1-18 Rathdowney Errill 1-11

QF Clonkill (Westmeath) 1-21 Clough Ballacolla 2-12

QF Rathdowney Errill 0-14 Oí Loughlin Gaels** 3-16

SF Oulart the Ballagh 3-12 Clough Ballacolla 2-11

QF Rathdowney Errill 1-12 Clonkill 0-12
SF Kilcormac Killoughey** 2-12 Rathdowney Errill 0-14

QF Camross 1-10 Kilcormac Killoughey 1-18

QF Kilmacud Crokes 0-23 Rathdowney Errill 0-22 AET

QF Clough Ballacolla 0-13 Oulart the Ballagh 3-8

QF Cuala 4-16 Borris in Ossory Kilcotton 1-14

QF Camross 0-13 Mount Leinster Rangers 0-19

QF Camross 2-16 Naomh …anna (Wexford) 3-18

QF Rathdowney Errill 4-16 St Rynaghís 0-10
SF St Mullinís (Carlow) 2-17 Rathdowney Errill 1-19

Not Played

QF Clough Ballacolla 1-17 Raparees 0-12
SF Clough Ballacolla         Kilmacud Crokes

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2021
« on: November 27, 2021, 08:13:17 PM »
Great win. First win over over a higher ranked county since??

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2021
« on: November 27, 2021, 04:12:24 PM »
Clough Ballacolla have a decent chance you know!

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2021
« on: November 14, 2021, 09:15:44 PM »
Serious achievement to pull that performance out of the bag in a final. Fair play

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2021
« on: November 12, 2021, 10:08:00 PM »
Port are some outfit both individually and collectively and of course have a cracking manager to boot. They are justifiable favorites for Sunday and looking at it in the cold light of day they should win well. If Portlaoise play like they did in each round before the semi it will be certainly be over by the water break.

Hard to know where Portlaoise are at but certainly we know where Port are at, you dont win finals with uncertainty around performances. Portlaoise have done a super job to reach the final after the first round defeat to Courtwood and it will bring the younger lads on no end for the next few years.

Head ruling heart, Port 2.10 Portlaoise 0.08

Itís like reading that article on Laois Today where they looked back on the 1991 final and carried an interview with Mick Lillis in the buildup. It was Portís to lose then as well! Beware the talented ďunderdogĒ!

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2021
« on: November 07, 2021, 06:55:13 PM »
They will be devestated with that.
Did so much right.
Built up considerable leads twice.
Lost them twice.
Settled again and got ahead.
They really really really really really should have finished that off.

There was a huge swing in the opening moments of the second half. Noah Quinlan was adjudged to have thrown the ball to Scully who popped it over for a score that would have put them 8 up.
Free out.
CB went down and scored 1-4 without reply to draw level.

Not blaming the Ref at all for BK losing. But he never looks confident himself when he calls something

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2021
« on: November 06, 2021, 02:10:44 PM »
Should be two good games.

For the players they have, Borris Kilcotton were tactically very poor in the 2020 final. Rumors afterwards of unrest & friction. But sometimes these things are a necessary bump in the road. Particularly when itís an in-house manager. An episode or period like that can harden the resolve all round and establish a ďline in the sandĒ.
Nobody is afraid to upset anybody else anymore and expectations of each other (players & management) can be heightened with a healthy ďtensionĒ.
They have a good balance about them and have gone about their business clinically enough this year.

I think the biggest problem they had in the 2020 final was dealing with how deep Robbie Phelan drifted, who picked him up and what happened to the space left behind. 
There is enough experience and tactical know how on the line and on the field to have identified that and try to stem it.
They are also blessed with a variety of options from a man marking/matchups point of view. It really is crucial at this level.

Clough Ballacolla keep surprising me. Their performances and run of wins over the last 12-14 months is beyond what I thought they were capable of. Picky and Aidan Corby run the show in my eyes. With plenty of supporting acts.
They are flying high confidence wise, look really well conditioned and seem to have found a perfect match management wise.

Borris Kilcotton have underachieved big time in terms of titles won. They must surely be hurting over the 2020 final. Their own supporters were extremely critical of them afterwards, questioning their balls (for want of a better word).
There has to be an awareness of that from within.
I think it will be enough to give them an edge.
BK by 6.

Losing to Ballyfin was the best thing that happened Ballinakill this year.
It seems to have sharpened the mind and wiped away any complacency that inevitably creeps in with a newly relegated side.
They have a sprinkling of really talented, experienced guys throughout the field.
They also have great men on the line. Youíd have to be confident that they have enough to get though this. I reckon by 6 or 7 points.

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: November 02, 2021, 11:15:53 PM »
In fairness, in some of those cases I think it is generally accepted by both sides that they will end up playing with Trumera.
Automatically entitled to a transfer under the parentage rule in Laois bye laws.
Somewhat of an unspoken, mutually beneficial arrangement

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: November 02, 2021, 08:05:15 PM »
It took The Harps a few years to cop on too!

They went in with Clough Ballacolla (in the B) on a couple of occasions (going back a while granted!!) and were happy enough to facilitate Cha for a good few years when their numbers were absolutely not a problem!
Still, you are correct, those days appear to be long gone!

Barring Rathdowney Errill, I donít think there is a club who have actually stood totally on their own two feet for the last 15/20 years. Open to correction.

Is there any possibility of or basis for the CB establishing Parish Rule at juvenile level? Or recognized area teams that you can elect to be part of or not at any given grade in any given year.
IE- 4 or 5 Set Area teams.
You join the one you are assigned to or you play on your own.
No inbetweens or alternatives.
Somehow, I feel the attraction of winning a Minor as part of South Laois, East Laois or North Laois might not be quite as tempting as winning one as Club A/Club B (wearing Club Aís jerseys).

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: November 02, 2021, 07:42:01 PM »

Independent Teams
Clough Ballacolla Gaels
(Clough Ballacolla, Ballinakill & Ballypickas)
Na Fianna
(Ballyfin, Clonaslee St Manmans, Mountmellick & Slieve Bloom)
Raheen Parish Gaels
(Clonad, Colt, Shanahoe, Trumera)
St Pauls
(Courtwood & Emo)
Park Ratheniska Timahoe Gaels
(Annanough, Arles Killeen, Arles Kilcruise, Ballylinan
Crettyard, Graiguecullen, St Josephs, Stradbally)

Independent Teams
Ballinakill & Ballypickas
Na Fianna
(Ballyfin, Clonaslee St Manmans, Mountmellick & Slieve Bloom)
Raheen Parish Gaels
(Clonad, Colt, Shanahoe, Trumera, Emo & Courtwood)
Park Ratheniska Timahoe Gaels

This is utterly ridiculous.
The hopping from area team to area team is bordering on underhand.
If you arenít good enough , go to the B.
If you donít have the numbers, play a significant number of players up from the grade below.
If this absolutely isnít an option, join with an established partner.
I really think the CB need to tidy this up.

If you want to join up with somebody at a particular grade and it is a geographically sound join up- Fine.

If you donít need to join up at other grades- OK

However if you want to go with Club B at one grade. You absolutely cannot form an alternative arrangement with Club C at another grade.

This would work two ways.
It would certainly put pressure on stronger clubs with enough players of their own.
Happy to facilitate a smaller club at u17 to increase your own chances? Great. But, be aware, if you donít need them at u13 and they need to go elsewhere, you canít have them at u17.

Bed hopping serves nobody, but ultimately reduces our playing pool on an annual basis.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2021
« on: October 24, 2021, 06:04:40 PM »
How wrong I was.
Very poor from Rathdowney Errill, who will be disappointed with themselves.
Had a good view of the sending off incident. No arguments. He had to go.

Credit to Ballacolla.  That took serious digging in.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2021
« on: October 23, 2021, 10:45:07 PM »
As far as I know l, the bookies have Rathdowney & Borris favourites and I think they are correct on both counts!

Iíd question the basis for the reports of the Camross improvement.
When you bring Abbeyleix & Castletownís performances against The Harps & Clough Ballacolla into the picture it really doesnít look like a big improvement.
They have changed along the way this year, have they improved?
If so, have they improved significantly?
I donít think so. Itíll be a tight game though. From what I hear, the Borris camp has settled a bit again. Things certainly werenít good for a while.
Iíd fancy them by 5 or 6 points.

More conflicted on the other one. The Harps & Castletown put in a showing for 30 minutes each. Other than that it has been a procession for Clough Ballacolla.
Even with injuries, I think Rathdowney Errill have more effective players to bring in and that might make the difference.
Itís a bit of a coin toss, but RE always appear that bit more measured in their use of the ball. Clough Ballacolla to me tend to be more direct. Will trying to keep the ball in current conditions (both underfoot and over head) be the key or the rock to perish on? I think itíll be the way to another county final for Rathdowney Errill.

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