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Laois / Re: O'Byrne Cup 2022
« on: January 10, 2022, 07:01:13 PM »
Shocking result, would be acceptable for hurling... not football.
Can't find any match report or lineup anywhere.

and theres the issue right there

some in the Football Fraternity labouring under the impression that football in the county is better than what it actually is

The Footballers got torn apart by a Division 4 Team today

Thats the level they are at

Sounds like you are waiting a lifetime to say that, I think it's counter productive to get into basically how bad the other is.   Neither are in a particularly good place.

As I have said for a long time now we won't solve anything till we look at the foundations of which we are built on but nobody seems to want to get into that. 

P.S Can't say I did not see yesterday coming and there will be more pain.

Quote from: Smellyball on October 09, 2021, 07:44:30 PM
If only the world knew that all the oracle's of football reside in the Laois GAA forum, there would never be a mistake made.
For people to post in here that Sheehans appointment is doomed to failure is ridiculous.
He probably wouldn't have been my first choice but I don't claim to to foresee the future and know it won't end well.
Perhaps part of the problem in Laois is all the whingeing and moaning that goes on in the background. An appointment has been made, if the county got behind the team the chances of success may improve.
For those claiming this is an awful appointment - out of interest, who was the last manager you were happy with when they were announced?
Quote from:  BallyroanAbu on Oct 10th 2021, 2:47:59 AM
Happy to oracle it, complete shit show but the definition of madness is to repeat the same thing and expect different results.  We can do better,  Jesus they have dragged us to a point where we think we deserve it.

Will ya listen to yourself and cop on

We've been on the slide since we decided we knew more than Micko and got shut of him, that wasn't today or yesterday

if not delusions of grandeur then delusions of respectability with some of the football crowd on here

from what I've seen at underage, there a massive failing in a lot of clubs in even getting the basics into their juvenile players. We punched above our weight for a few years at minor etc but that's long gone now as well.

We haven't hit rock bottom yet but its coming.

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Laois / Re: O'Byrne Cup 2022
« on: January 08, 2022, 06:48:29 PM »
Shocking result, would be acceptable for hurling... not football.
Can't find any match report or lineup anywhere.

and theres the issue right there

some in the Football Fraternity labouring under the impression that football in the county is better than what it actually is

The Footballers got torn apart by a Division 4 Team today

Thats the level they are at

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: December 29, 2021, 08:45:16 PM »
Offaly yet again powering on with their youth development work


https://twitter.com/offaly_gaa/status/1475847626436325379?s=21

We again asleep at the wheel

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 11, 2021, 09:10:32 PM »
According to the UK’s Office for National Statistics (ONS), Northern Ireland was one of nine UK regions to have a fiscal deficit in 2019.



The northwest, which includes Cumbria and the Greater Manchester area, had the biggest (£20.2 billion) followed by the West Midlands (£15 billion), Wales (£13.5 billion) and Scotland (£13.5 billion).



London, the southeast and the east of England had fiscal surpluses of £38.7 billion, £21.7 billion and £4 billion respectively and were therefore net contributors to the UK exchequer.

Thats the how and the where of who funds who in the UK

Now

Lets go at what this £9.4bn is composed of

£3.4 billion in pension payments paid by the British state to pensioners in Northern Ireland, which would continue continue to paid for as long as those pensioners are alive by the British government

North’s share of the UK’s national debt and the annual repayments arising from it. This was put at £2.4 billion in 2019.

£1.1bn which is the Norths payment to the UK defence budget, Compare this figure with the ROI annual spend of €1.1bn a year and it will give you an idea of where savings will be made when it comes to a United Ireland as I doubt if we will be building any Aircraft Carriers anytime soon,buying F35's at £100m a pop or invading Afghanistan.

Which leaves a net subvention of £2.5bn

But that's a lot of money I hear you say to find and it is

But the NI economy is currently operating at 30% pro rata on any metric to that of Republics

Supposing we got it to 60% then it would pay its way as per corporation and income tax returns

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: December 09, 2021, 09:10:42 AM »
Keyser Sφze - you seem to have a namesakes on GAA Board.
Keyser soze posted smart alec comments re. new Laois jersey on New Jerseys thread on main GAA Discussion.
Maybe you would put manners on him  ;)

He also has more posts than the Laois version

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: December 08, 2021, 08:49:34 PM »
Roscrea beat the crap out of Portlaoise last week in the 'C', I think. Something like 2-23 to 1-4.

Hurling is in rag order inside in the CBS,they conceded to Roscrea in the Juvenile C last week,never informed the players and they are now done hurling till probably next September.

That’s Cistercian College Roscrea in both games,God only knows what type of beating the main school in Roscrea would hand out to them

Football is slightly only slightly better

Soccer is king there now

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Laois / Re: leinster club championship
« on: December 05, 2021, 04:57:08 PM »
Found out against an organised side and will struggle up senior. But a great year for them but the hard work only starts now

You’ve an awful bitter side to you when it comes to poor auld Park

Is it down to them pulling all those kids and adult players from the Town?

Brilliant performance from Port

Them scoring 1-05 in the first 7 minutes similar to the County final was a fair burst

Port v Naas in a Leinster final is not beyond the bounds of possibility

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Laois / Re: The Future for Laois Football
« on: December 03, 2021, 12:47:55 PM »
The benefits of having your counties teams all knocked out of their respective championships early I guess. Saved the county a fortune.

On a serious note-making that amount of profit is a sign that the county board are not investing enough in the development of GAA within the county. Obviously you do not run into debt but equally you should not be sitting on a large wad of money that could be invested wisely to help improve standards within the county.   

Is anyone else surprised at the fact that the Coaching and Games Development Expenses was only €14,854. Surely that figure should be x10 that or am I wrong in thinking that?


I think the budget for that in Offaly over the same 11 month period was over €110k

This wouldn’t include GDA wages etc

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Laois / Re: The Future for Laois Football
« on: December 03, 2021, 08:29:19 AM »
Key figures (2020 figures in brackets)

Total Income – €1,188,153 (€922,995)
Total Expenditure – €683,021 (€933,588)
Surplus/Deficit – €505,132 (-€10,594)
Gate Receipts – €240,943 (€146,003)
Commercial Income – €192,630 (€146,882)
Fundraising – €152,722 (€117,582)
Income from Associated bodies – €293,989 (€182,063)
Coaching and Games Development Income – €145,078 (€69,576)
County Teams Expenses – €419,399 (€511,942)
Admin Expenses – €116,668 (€155,040)
Coaching and Games Development Expenses – €14,854 (€105,422)
Live Streaming Income – €35,884 (€70,580)

Well done the Laois County Board for running a half a million euro surplus for 11 months of the year

And all the giving out ye all do about them!!!

https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/gaelic-games/703177/dramatic-turn-around-in-fortunes-as-offaly-gaa-shows-197-969-profit.html

Take your pick. I know which bus I'd rather be on

“Shur we can’t compete with Offaly”

Even though they have a smaller population than Laois and 8 fewer clubs

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: December 02, 2021, 06:26:27 PM »
In relation to Tipperary minor hurling squads which has been referenced above

There's about 60 in there at the moment. All doing gym program. Challenge matches started last week.

The selection process is open at all times with players chosen from development squads plus the 4 divisional teams which are in place from u13 up and are treated like individual teams with their own management and training programs

Management are expected to attend as many games as possible including school games with GDA’s also offering recommendations

There’s also a process in place for club coaches to feed player information into a central scouting type system as well.

In relation to S&C there’s is a team of 14 people involved which starts at u13 and goes up to minor with everything linked

Des Ryan from Setanta college is in charge of all this,with input from Damian Young

Setanta College provides all the resources,testing etc for the various teams
Ah a proper hurling development plan. Ye Tipp boys must be good at hurling.
Excuse my sarcasm but some contributers on here can't see the bigger picture not to mention the county board. The way minor and U20 panels have been selected in laois is nothing  short of a disgrace. That plan is everything you want in hurling development albeit catered for a county like Tipp.
Where is that going to leave Laois in 5 to 10 years time against the traditional counties.
The reason given for not doing the Divisional trials at U20 this year is because there wasn't enough time to do it properly and look at everyone. Oh my.
At least the u16s next year's minors seemed to have a good plan in place.
Great Post above  BTW

Probably the likes of Limerick cork galway have even better systems than Tipp

It’s only when you see it laid out,do you realise how far we are actually behind these county’s and the likes of Offaly with whom we should be at least equal to.

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Laois / Re: The Future for Laois Football
« on: December 02, 2021, 06:22:47 PM »
Key figures (2020 figures in brackets)

Total Income – €1,188,153 (€922,995)
Total Expenditure – €683,021 (€933,588)
Surplus/Deficit – €505,132 (-€10,594)
Gate Receipts – €240,943 (€146,003)
Commercial Income – €192,630 (€146,882)
Fundraising – €152,722 (€117,582)
Income from Associated bodies – €293,989 (€182,063)
Coaching and Games Development Income – €145,078 (€69,576)
County Teams Expenses – €419,399 (€511,942)
Admin Expenses – €116,668 (€155,040)
Coaching and Games Development Expenses – €14,854 (€105,422)
Live Streaming Income – €35,884 (€70,580)

Well done the Laois County Board for running a half a million euro surplus for 11 months of the year

And all the giving out ye all do about them!!!

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: November 30, 2021, 07:04:44 PM »
Heard a rumour not sure how true it is that the Laois U20 hurling management have gone against a recommendation by a CB sub committee to have regional trials for this year's squad. Instead favouring a hand picked group of 25 - 30 players starting next Friday. If true I seriously fear for Laois hurling. Have they not learnt anything especially from diastraous minor set ups of the last 2 years in particular. Even colm bonnar in a stronghold like Tipp sees the wisdom of a complete trawl of the county.

Its my understanding that 12 to 15 of this years u15s are being brought into the minor squad for next year.

Its far from ideal.

but an improvement on the minor squad of 2/3 years ago which held u15 trials and then was a closed shop to all after that.

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling championship 2021
« on: November 29, 2021, 11:36:32 AM »
Both games yesterday were good for different reasons, Ballygunner were on a mission, their intensity was the very evident in everything they did, relentless pressure from the first whistle, never settled on frees or sidelines, all taken quickly, they looked impressive.

The Tipp final was as I expected, a toss of the coin between them. Thurles looked really good early doors and raced to a good lead, before shipping 1-3 without reply! nip and tuck the rest of the game, they will be busted, hopefully the Munster board will look at their fixtures in hurling and football and allow them time to prepare as a club

No space in the schedule not that it will bother Loughmore

definitely out the next 2 weeks and if they beat Eire Og next weekend,it will be 3 weekends in a row plus Noel McGraths Wedding somewhere in the middle.

less than 1,000 people in the parish,put out 3 adult hurling teams and 2 adult football teams,their 3 adult hurling team won a divisional junior C and had 35 on the panel

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GAA Discussion / Re: TG4 - Club Championships Coverage
« on: November 28, 2021, 10:54:13 PM »
Aw diddums did I upset poor hurleyman?
We're not as big a joke as Laois where they haven't yet discovered that it's the ball you have to hit!

All our clubs play within the county boundary which is more than could be said for your lot

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GAA Discussion / Re: TG4 - Club Championships Coverage
« on: November 28, 2021, 08:33:27 PM »
Don't know what the GAA bother with filling up the TO with playing rules for hurling  ::)
As for having Refs.... they are just timekeepers/scorekeepers.

We get it

You hate hurling

Imagine if all the hurling  counties concentrated on football

Roscommon would be an even greater joke than it already is

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