We're in a group with Dublin, Louth and Westmeath. Management team is Conor Gorman, Paddy Dunne and Eamonn O'Connell. Donie Brennan not involved as rumoured before Christmas.
Played Carlow this weekend. Didn't hear how it went.
Paddy dunne not involved I heard Billy Delaney from Stradbally in instead. Beat Carlow by 5 or 6 points. Seem to have a few nice players in there.
Quote from: Jd on January 23, 2022, 07:06:33 PM
Paddy dunne not involved I heard Billy Delaney from Stradbally in instead.
My bad. I'd heard Paddy was involved. Billy has great experience with various teams.
Mountrath Cs playing Wexford CBS today in Carlow in Senior hurling Sfinal by all accounts wexford are very strong. Best of luck to Mrath.
Minor footballers were playing Armagh today in Abbotstown. Beaten by a point I heard.
Minors played limerick in limerick and came away with a win by a point
Seem to.have a decent team
Any word on a team/panel?
Quote from: Butch Cassidy on February 14, 2022, 08:50:20 PM
Any word on a team/panel?
I'm of an age where I refer to them by their fathers. Sons of Hughie Emerson and Mick Tarpey midfield! Couple of Courtwood Emo lads very good in the forwards. Dineen of Joseph's full back is a serious footballer. Underage again next year. Loughman of Ballylinan centre back. Kelly of Joseph's centre forward (son of county board chairman PJ). Gordon Lawlor has two sons on panel. Couple of Graigue lads decent players.
Young Costello is a really good prospect superb player and a really brave chap. Dineen from Josephs is gonna be brilliant in my opinion too. I think they may be missing a few who didn't commit too and Kevin Byrne from Camross is injured but I think i saw him back running last night.
Minors played Tipp last Saturday in COE. Game destroyed by wind. Tipp won but not sure by how much. Could've been around 6 or 7 points. Laois team looked a bit experimental compared to previous weeks. Hard to read this team as yet. Every game they've played seems to have been in difficult weather!
Just about to head to minors championship opener. Good luck to Conor and all involved.
Quote from: SCFC on March 19, 2022, 11:24:28 AM
Just about to head to minors championship opener. Good luck to Conor and all involved.
Looked like a great win SCFC ! Fantastic start for the Minors .
A good result but a quite patchy performance. Failed to score in second half until 2 late goals. That said Westmeath only got 2 points against the very stiff wind. Difficult day for football but both teams made a lot of mistakes.
Not too many standout performances for Laois. Full forward Little was probably MOTM, 2-1 from play and set up third goal. Costello at centre forward has a lot of skill but Westmeath were well warned about him and he was fouled a lot. Kicked a couple of very difficult frees. Joseph's lad at 12 was good too. Midfielders Emerson and Tarpey worked hard but one of the opposite midfielders got the better of them. Corner back Darcy seemed to have a bit about him. Full back Dinneen was pretty solid.
Well done to players and management, nice to get off to a winning start.
Quote from: Joeythelips on March 19, 2022, 08:40:20 PM
Well done to players and management, nice to get off to a winning start.
Great to see no less than 4 of your own club Kilcavan lads on the panel too.
Quote from: The PRO on March 20, 2022, 07:41:41 PM
Quote from: Joeythelips on March 19, 2022, 08:40:20 PM
Well done to players and management, nice to get off to a winning start.
Great to see no less than 4 of your own club Kilcavan lads on the panel too.
Fantastic to see, a super achievement for a small rural club like Kilcavan. They have put in great work over the past decade to develop underage structures and it's obviously paying off.
Kilcavan #futureisbright
Very good performance from minors tonight. I didn't make it to the Dublin game but tonight was impressive. Really like the centre back Kevin Byrne from Camross who is also on the hurling panel. And Darcy of Annanough who is very skilful. Costello and Little will probably grab the headlines but I thought our defence was top class.
Actually thought the defence was a bit exposed till half time then Loughman went back centre back and byrne moved to midfield. He quietened their no 8. I like the look of lyons at centre forward hes fierce mobile and skilful. I think he kicked 4 points too. A good win
I liked the balance of the team last night. Hard workers in the middle of the pitch and our scoring-threats inside.
Be great to get another win and make a semi-final.
Quote from: Jd on April 20, 2022, 10:40:26 PM
Actually thought the defence was a bit exposed till half time then Loughman went back centre back and byrne moved to midfield. He quietened their no 8. I like the look of lyons at centre forward hes fierce mobile and skilful. I think he kicked 4 points too. A good win
Yeah, I don't know why Loughman didn't start at centre back anyway. I wonder if the quarter final is an open draw or seeded i.e. if Westmeath get through could we face them again?
Laois take on Offaly tonight. Any kind of a win would be great.
Anyone have any info on injuries, team, how strong Offaly are?
Quote from: redsetanta on May 04, 2022, 12:27:30 PM
Laois take on Offaly tonight. Any kind of a win would be great.
Anyone have any info on injuries, team, how strong Offaly are?
Offaly bet Meath by a point but they lost to Longford well and were hammered by Kildare so I'd say they are average enough . I'd imagine it will be a close enough game tonight and it could go either way . It appears to be between Dublin and Kildare for the Leinster judging by results .
Quote from: Laoiseabu on May 04, 2022, 04:01:47 PM
Quote from: redsetanta on May 04, 2022, 12:27:30 PM
Laois take on Offaly tonight. Any kind of a win would be great.
Anyone have any info on injuries, team, how strong Offaly are?
Offaly bet Meath by a point but they lost to Longford well and were hammered by Kildare so I'd say they are average enough . I'd imagine it will be a close enough game tonight and it could go either way . It appears to be between Dublin and Kildare for the Leinster judging by results .
Just when you think football in the county has hit rock bottom, results, like tonight's in Tullamore, shows we're not near rock bottom yet.
It was evident after 3 mins how this match was going to go . It's been said before on numerous occasions but the physic of the Offaly lads compared to the Laois lads ... even during warm before Laois looked small .
Their campaign got off to a bad start as they were beaten 3-12 to 0-5 by Kildare.
But Offaly got back on track with a one point win over Meath before losing by nine against Longford in Round 3.
That saw Offaly finish third in the group and they faced Carlow last week in a preliminary quarter final – romping to a 5-16 to 2-7 win.
That's from Laois Today
We got an absolute trimming from the team that finished third in their group
Another awful hammering. Is there no end to it? Across all levels and codes it seems. You have to wonder how and why we're getting it so badly wrong. You have to wonder why there is no plan in place to address this. Just a report at the end of every year to say what we already know. O'Moore Park is nearly as much use to other counties as it is to us, because we don't have a team capable of half filling it. It's embarrassing and it's been going on a long time. I'll reiterate that I have no faith in our County Board and I'd be delighted if they all resigned. Things really can't get much worse for us.
Quote from: High Fielder on May 05, 2022, 08:19:59 AM
Another awful hammering. Is there no end to it? Across all levels and codes it seems. You have to wonder how and why we're getting it so badly wrong. You have to wonder why there is no plan in place to address this. Just a report at the end of every year to say what we already know. O'Moore Park is nearly as much use to other counties as it is to us, because we don't have a team capable of half filling it. It's embarrassing and it's been going on a long time. I'll reiterate that I have no faith in our County Board and I'd be delighted if they all resigned. Things really can't get much worse for us.
So if they all resign who takes their places?
I'd be very interested to hear of the credible candidates that would take their places and why they would be an improvement on what's currently there
The new CB chairman is in situ 5 months as is the Juvenile CB chairman and the football chair
Should they get the road too?
All of them. The process is tainted and isn't working for us. It's political to its very core and discourages good people from getting involved. I'm not saying they're not good people because I'm sure they are. But they've clearly run out of ideas and when that happens your time should be up. New appointments to the Laois CB are only ever a continuation of what preceded them. Like minded people who do the same things but have a different name. It's clear we need a change and getting rid of Billy or Cheddar won't be enough. Just my opinion. No doubt many will disagree and fair enough. But I've made up my mind
As for new candidates, I am sure people would apply. We would have to wait and see. Fear of the unknown shouldn't stop us taking action. How many don't apply already because of the current regime? Maybe none. Who knows. What is clear is that this isn't working and we need change
I wonder how many of the comments above following last nights result were at the match.
It appears a lot of the time any result in the negative is a an opportunity to have a go at the County Board. Any minor team now is as a result of previous administratons and although some faces are familiar on the County Board ,the current County Board have to be given an opportunity to anylise and address the current issues especially just after 5/6 months being at their roles Who the f**k wants to be on any county board or club administration, I would not say there is a queue going from telfords down to O'Moore park when the meetings and voting takes place with new and attractive candidates. I hope all those who make comments above are working hard in their clubs in coaching and looking after juvenile preparation and strength and conditioning.
Last night was a poor performance by 16 and 17 year old's who tried their best against a better team, they got off to a bad start against a breeze , lost and never regained confidence and struggled in the retention of the ball, won little or no kickouts, struggled in transition play from defence to forwards,made poor decisions in some plays, forwards were starved of ball and Offaly swept them away as a cohesive mobile unit, hunted in packs , took most if not all their chances, very little wides, strong midfield and outstanding forward play as they had the ball.
They play Carlow next week in the Seamus Heaney and its a 50;50 shout but that's where these young 16/17 years old's are, again they are 16/17 years old so they beat Louth and Westmeath and Lost to Dublin and Offaly. Its all experience for these lads who are only 16/17 not 18 and they are still developing. If they win next week they will have beaten three teams in leinster, bottom half of the overall league and that's where we are currently. Said it before the most important team is the under 10-14 age range and transition from Primary to secondary and at each club. My recommendation to resolve most of the ills is get involved in your local club and get your own standards right in all clubs as opposed to requiring The County Board to fix it or manage it.
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on May 05, 2022, 12:25:34 PM
Quote from: High Fielder on May 05, 2022, 10:04:24 AM
As for new candidates, I am sure people would apply. We would have to wait and see.
clearly a solutions man this one
Clearly a CB member/relation/friend/WUM/troll. Insert as appropriate. Only offering an opinion. A very poor attempt to play the man and not the ball.
Quote from: Oblivious on May 05, 2022, 12:18:10 PM
I wonder how many of the comments above following last nights result were at the match.
It appears a lot of the time any result in the negative is a an opportunity to have a go at the County Board. Any minor team now is as a result of previous administratons and although some faces are familiar on the County Board ,the current County Board have to be given an opportunity to anylise and address the current issues especially just after 5/6 months being at their roles Who the f**k wants to be on any county board or club administration, I would not say there is a queue going from telfords down to O'Moore park when the meetings and voting takes place with new and attractive candidates. I hope all those who make comments above are working hard in their clubs in coaching and looking after juvenile preparation and strength and conditioning.
Last night was a poor performance by 16 and 17 year old's who tried their best against a better team, they got off to a bad start against a breeze , lost and never regained confidence and struggled in the retention of the ball, won little or no kickouts, struggled in transition play from defence to forwards,made poor decisions in some plays, forwards were starved of ball and Offaly swept them away as a cohesive mobile unit, hunted in packs , took most if not all their chances, very little wides, strong midfield and outstanding forward play as they had the ball.
They play Carlow next week in the Seamus Heaney and its a 50;50 shout but that's where these young 16/17 years old's are, again they are 16/17 years old so they beat Louth and Westmeath and Lost to Dublin and Offaly. Its all experience for these lads who are only 16/17 not 18 and they are still developing. If they win next week they will have beaten three teams in leinster, bottom half of the overall league and that's where we are currently. Said it before the most important team is the under 10-14 age range and transition from Primary to secondary and at each club. My recommendation to resolve most of the ills is get involved in your local club and get your own standards right in all clubs as opposed to requiring The County Board to fix it or manage it.
Fair points. Heard it all before unfortunately and our current plight is a long time in the making. Last night's result and team are secondary to the wider point
While it's a very poor result and the county board have a lot to answer for it's the clubs that have to step up and take a lot of the blame for this.Too many clubs in Laois are taking the easy option and amalgamating with other clubs for a quick fix"let's join with this club and this club so we have 15 strong 17year olds that might win a championship or have a strong 15s team that might dominate"instead of working hard on the pick that have to make them the best possible footballers/hurlers they can be.If you look at our underage club results lately there is some awful hammerings occurring which does nothing for either club just some coaches on an ego trip
Quote from: High Fielder on May 05, 2022, 09:53:23 AM
All of them. The process is tainted and isn't working for us. It's political to its very core and discourages good people from getting involved. I'm not saying they're not good people because I'm sure they are. But they've clearly run out of ideas and when that happens your time should be up. New appointments to the Laois CB are only ever a continuation of what preceded them. Like minded people who do the same things but have a different name. It's clear we need a change and getting rid of Billy or Cheddar won't be enough. Just my opinion. No doubt many will disagree and fair enough. But I've made up my mind
So your solution to this is to sack people that have been in the position 5 months at most ?
What about the paid employees of Laois GAA ?
The secretary?,the games manager?,the GDA's?
Should they be all fired too ?
A different question entirely. Happy enough to see the CB gone for now. Did you serve as a CB officer? Or am I mistaken? Apologies if I have the wrong person
Quote from: High Fielder on May 05, 2022, 04:25:12 PM
A different question entirely. Happy enough to see the CB gone for now. Did you serve as a CB officer? Or am I mistaken? Apologies if I have the wrong person
So the volunteers get the axe ?
And the lads getting paid don't ?
The volunteers make the decisions. They hold the power. They are responsible for the hiring and firing. Eddie Brennan was right about them imo, and it's fairly obvious a lot of coaches took note.
Quote from: High Fielder on May 05, 2022, 06:56:18 PM
The volunteers make the decisions. They hold the power. They are responsible for the hiring and firing. Eddie Brennan was right about them imo, and it's fairly obvious a lot of coaches took note.
Ok so when you have the current county board sacked?
What do you do then ?
I'm interested to see what concrete proposals you would have in place then
I wouldn't be sacking anyone. They're volunteers. They shouldn't expect to hold such power indefinitely.
I wouldn't want anyone serving more than 2 years in any one position and nobody serving beyond 5 years in total. That would be my starting point.
Generally, I don't like the county board battering that often takes place after a bad result. The county board isn't responsible for bad performances of individual county teams. But the county board is responsible for longer-term patterns and I'm afraid these patterns have been pretty grim over the last 4 or 5 years. We are losing/dismissing/not supporting good managers. We are ignoring good ideas being put forward by some of the more enlightened people like Sugrue or Cheddar who took the time to make very concrete suggestions about how to improve things. We have been slow to put youth coaching structures in place. We have been poor in fundraising. We've done little or nothing to encourage greater participation (either as players or supporters). These are the things that eventually lead to a pattern of poor performances on the pitch and the county board has to take responsibility for that.
Quote from: Giovanni on May 05, 2022, 08:18:26 PM
Generally, I don't like the county board battering that often takes place after a bad result. The county board isn't responsible for bad performances of individual county teams. But the county board is responsible for longer-term patterns and I'm afraid these patterns have been pretty grim over the last 4 or 5 years. We are losing/dismissing/not supporting good managers. We are ignoring good ideas being put forward by some of the more enlightened people like Sugrue or Cheddar who took the time to make very concrete suggestions about how to improve things. We have been slow to put youth coaching structures in place. We have been poor in fundraising. We've done little or nothing to encourage greater participation (either as players or supporters). These are the things that eventually lead to a pattern of poor performances on the pitch and the county board has to take responsibility for that.
[Totally agree with this. There is no plan and never was one]
Quote from: High Fielder on May 05, 2022, 09:53:23 AM
All of them. The process is tainted and isn't working for us. It's political to its very core and discourages good people from getting involved. I'm not saying they're not good people because I'm sure they are. But they've clearly run out of ideas and when that happens your time should be up. New appointments to the Laois CB are only ever a continuation of what preceded them. Like minded people who do the same things but have a different name. It's clear we need a change and getting rid of Billy or Cheddar won't be enough. Just my opinion. No doubt many will disagree and fair enough. But I've made up my mind
When I asked you earlier
Should everyone in the county board get the road
You replied
"All of them"
It's good to see you stepping back from this position and being a bit more realistic in your assessment of things
The clubs have a case to answer also
Especially when they are sending youngsters to trials without even the most basic of skills.
Volunteers shouldn't expect to be power brokers indefinitely. They hide behind it when things go wrong and essentially put themselves beyond accountability because they are volunteers.
On the flip side of the coin, they're not mercenaries either, and shouldn't be expected to take responsibility for a failing county. You can't tell me that as we stand, other people couldn't do what they are doing. In fact, it begs the question why they seem to want to hold on so desperately, for many years, in different positions. Particularly in a failing county.
We are a very good example of a county that needs a fresh approach with a completely different outlook. We shouldn't be afraid to fall or fail because we're at a point where non participation is around the corner. I can see a day where a county in a similar position to ourselves won't have numbers to field a team. I sometimes wonder if we're reaching that point
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on May 06, 2022, 11:01:07 AM
Quote from: High Fielder on May 06, 2022, 08:02:07 AM
they seem to want to hold on so desperately, for many years, in different positions. Particularly in a failing county.
who are they? i think you need to name the ones who are there for too many years in your opinion.
Luckily for me, what you think is irrelevant. Go do your own digging. Another piss poor attempt to play the man and not the ball.
what any of us think is irrelevant then. but you're playing the man by ur own standards all the time.
Far from it. I have no problem instigating a topic or giving a viewpoint. You're just trolling plain and simple. Which is fine if that's all you're capable of doing. I mean all you've done so far is troll. Makes me think you're happy with the way things are. But who would know when all you're doing is trolling.
i wondered had you any solutions. the easy thing is to call someone who doesnt tink the same as you a troll. its offensife.
I called you a troll because that's all you're doing. You're not debating. You're not offering an alternative opinion. You're not even saying what your own opinion is. You're just piggybacking other people's posts and trying to discredit them. That's trolling. I'm sorry if that offends you but don't expect to go unchallenged if all you're doing is trolling
Over the last few years our minor team , while not setting the world alight, have performed on par with a county with our playing population. Meath, Dublin, Kildare have far bigger numbers to select from in Leinster. Unlike in the 90s and 00s, every county has a pretty good underage set up. Therefore, it has made the success Laois had in the 90s and early to mid 00s pretty impossible to replicate as the bigger counties are more than likely to hoover up the titles between them.
While we took a hammering in the end against Offaly that can happen with young lads of 16/17 playing football. Their heads went down after a bad start to game. The Offaly players had their tails up and with the result not in doubt proceeded to put up a good score against a defeated Laois team. I wouldn't read too much into one game. After the Louth game some of the same players were receiving huge praise on this very forum for their footballing ability.
The one thing that Laois county board were slow to do in the last ten years was to invest in juvenile football, upping the skills of the players and upping participation numbers. The number and quality of some of our Gaelic development coaches left a lot to be desired in that time. We have finally started to try rectify that situation. There is a long road to travel with it yet. Also, Laois will not regain the success of old until proper investment is made into re-invigorating GAA in Portlaoise and getting kids interested and involved in playing.
By the way, fair play to the minors who dug out a good win away to Carlow lst week in the Seamus Heaney Cup for teams who didn't reach the semi final in Leinster. They were without the two dual lads, Byrne and O'Reilly, a couple of injured lads and a couple of lads who were dropped for missing training so overall a good night's work despite a disgraceful sending off of the completely wrong player for what was a very debatable red card.
They play Wexford next.
Quote from: SCFC on May 18, 2022, 12:08:01 PM
They play Wexford next.
Tonight in Portlaoise.
Can tickets be purchased online for tonight's match?
It was free in when they played Carlow in Netwatch Park.
Wexford seem to be promoting the endeavours of their team but only laois today highlighting the match.
Nothing as of yet on Laois website or Facebook, does not bode well for the Tailteann cup for second tier competitions.