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#1
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2022, 11:17:45 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2022, 11:05:08 PM
Where do Mayo go from here? It's a sad way to see one of the great modern managers go, but that has to be time for Horan. Who are the contenders to succeed him?

Great is a bit of a stretch! It's not like he was working with limited resources - financial and natural.

He brought us to a higher place and made thinking of winning Sam the norm.

He did well but he never sealed the deal.

The crop of players he managed to bring through 2011-2014, given where the county was in 2010, is probably an under appreciated achievement. Not to mention the fact that we once again seemed to be a spent force in 2018 after the loss to Kildare, Horan came in and brought through another crop of players and reached back to back all Ireland finals.

Horans shortcomings were well known, and ultimately defining on the biggest stage. Its a pity Horan couldn't have worked side by side with a Rochford who could've had strengths that complimented well with Horans. Alas it wasn't to be. That said I find it hard to list of many better managers in the modern era- Jim Gavin, Jim McGuinness, Mickey Harte come to mind.
#2
I still very much expect Dublin to win this out, Kerry did not impress me at all.
#3
Where do Mayo go from here? It's a sad way to see one of the great modern managers go, but that has to be time for Horan. Who are the contenders to succeed him?
#4
What time are we throwing in?
#5
GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
June 26, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 26, 2022, 03:34:27 PM
The goalkeeper passed the ball out blind with a Galway defender standing beside him.,but the reason Galway haven't won th, is Walsh cross field pass that went nowhere near the player.

That was a pass!???!?! I thought it was a shot that he sliced horrifically
#6
Today is the day for AOS, stick him on David Moran
#7
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht SFC 2022
April 28, 2022, 11:27:07 PM
Also I thought Rochford would've been the man to turn Galway into genuine contenders
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht SFC 2022
April 28, 2022, 11:24:58 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on April 27, 2022, 09:10:24 PM
Quote from: iorras on April 26, 2022, 02:58:29 PM
Mayo groundsman has been admitted to St Marys in Castlebar, all of his hard work getting the pitch ready and now its full of dead patches where Galway players lay so long on the ground they killed the grass. Thoughts and prayers.

Only taking the piss Galway people, fair play on the win, Cian O'Neil showed his worth with the tactic of blocking up the "Mayo attacking" channels with the wing forwards. A joke that after so many years managing at a high level JH couldn't find a way around it but there it is. I dont rate O'Neill, I'm sure hes worried, but hes become such a journeyman at this stage its a bit of a joke. I think thats all he will contribute positively to Galway this year.

The backdoor will suit Mayo if the injuries clear up and they could find themselves in a semi, however I said there was no point in Horan coming back unless he had improved his tactical abilities and was willing to be less stubborn and listen to others. Neither has happened so Mayo wont be winning any All Ireland this year and thoughts must start to turn to who next. Problem is there are no obvious choices unless we were willing to go mad an look at someone like Jim McGuinness. Not sure he would be an answer either, I believe, as much as it pains me to say it, if they had been playing any other top team of that era except James Horans Mayo they probably wouldn't have won that All Ireland. I know they beat Dublin
The answer to get over the line last year was getting in Rochford for 3 weeks before the All Ireland to help plan the tactics, I think Sam would have been nestling in the West now. It was wishful thinking of course because JH would never consider it. I dont know if Rochford is the answer either but we do love to go back to a previous manager in Mayo (would that be the 5th time?) so who knows

I'd agree with the weight of that Iorras. On a Rochford return, I don't know. A little birdie told me that Galway had him all lined up to take over from PJ once Mayo lowered the boom on Galway in Castlebar. Whether PJ is out of the woods or was only granted a stay of execution I don't know, and I've enough to be worrying about on my own side of the march to speculate any further.

I really do think Rochford would've gotten the team over the line last year. But then again if Horan hadn't come back, would the new core of the team have been brought through? That's what Horan is very good at to be fair.

It's a pity he couldn't have someone like Rochford alongside him to actually handle the tactics and make changes from the sideline during the match. Unfortunately, if there's two things Horan doesn't like it's listening to anyone or adapting to anything.

As OHora said last year "we only have one plan" however when you insist on stick on playing a running game without any runners you end up languishing in possession around the 45 waiting to be turned over.
#9
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht SFC 2022
April 25, 2022, 12:14:04 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 24, 2022, 11:44:28 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on April 24, 2022, 11:32:04 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 24, 2022, 11:28:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on April 24, 2022, 11:14:11 PM
The more I think about it, the more I'm annoyed that Cillian O'Connor started today. Before throw in I said it'd be a madness call if he started because he clearly couldn't be ready.

But even more than that, James Horans biggest and arguably only quality is that he brings through young players very well. So today he could've given Orme or Carney an opportunity and live or die by the outcome.

But no COC is back so he starts. He now knows he doesn't need to up his game at all because he's an automatic starter. He wasn't fit today, he contributed nothing, and took frees off our best forward because he is who he is.

He could've started a young player today and if it didn't work you have a fired up COC coming off the bench to earn his place. But instead COC is ineffective and you have no options off the bench.

One of the main things I can't get over is the 45s. He can't take them, whatever about the frees he kicked the easy ones and missed the big one but whatever he's kicked enough frees to earn a bit of leeway there. But he can't take 45s, he probably hasn't kicked one in 10 years. It would be okay if the frees were split between him and ROD based on ability. But COC has to take everything.

He'll start the next day. He knows that. So why push that extra yard?

No.

You'd swear reading this post that Mayo have a cluster of high quality forwards to turn to.

They don't. Not even close. And with Conroy out for the season, their AI hopes are dependent on someone taking the pressure of O'Donaghue.

There's effectively one game to get this going ahead of the knockout stages.

The most consistent forward the county has ever produced is ready and willing.

Anyone who doesn't start him today is eating too much meat or forgetting to take some carbs. They're not balanced anyhow.

What did he contribute today? Because he clearly wasn't and couldn't possibly have been fit. I'm not suggesting he be exiled, but I'd prefer he came on with something to prove when the game is in the melting pot than what actually transpired

Mayo will be in the mix, so you think Cillian O'C shouldn't be given championship game time to be sharp for the business end?

He could've got 30 minutes of the bench today and worked from there
#10
GAA Discussion / Re: Sam Maguire Qualifiers 2022
April 24, 2022, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 24, 2022, 11:35:28 PM
Offaly and Maughan are in the Tailteann ;)

Not this year, they were in division two. Or do relegated teams get sent down to tailteann this year? In which case do the promoted division 3 teams get sacrificed instead?
#11
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht SFC 2022
April 24, 2022, 11:32:04 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 24, 2022, 11:28:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on April 24, 2022, 11:14:11 PM
The more I think about it, the more I'm annoyed that Cillian O'Connor started today. Before throw in I said it'd be a madness call if he started because he clearly couldn't be ready.

But even more than that, James Horans biggest and arguably only quality is that he brings through young players very well. So today he could've given Orme or Carney an opportunity and live or die by the outcome.

But no COC is back so he starts. He now knows he doesn't need to up his game at all because he's an automatic starter. He wasn't fit today, he contributed nothing, and took frees off our best forward because he is who he is.

He could've started a young player today and if it didn't work you have a fired up COC coming off the bench to earn his place. But instead COC is ineffective and you have no options off the bench.

One of the main things I can't get over is the 45s. He can't take them, whatever about the frees he kicked the easy ones and missed the big one but whatever he's kicked enough frees to earn a bit of leeway there. But he can't take 45s, he probably hasn't kicked one in 10 years. It would be okay if the frees were split between him and ROD based on ability. But COC has to take everything.

He'll start the next day. He knows that. So why push that extra yard?

No.

You'd swear reading this post that Mayo have a cluster of high quality forwards to turn to.

They don't. Not even close. And with Conroy out for the season, their AI hopes are dependent on someone taking the pressure of O'Donaghue.

There's effectively one game to get this going ahead of the knockout stages.

The most consistent forward the county has ever produced is ready and willing.

Anyone who doesn't start him today is eating too much meat or forgetting to take some carbs. They're not balanced anyhow.

What did he contribute today? Because he clearly wasn't and couldn't possibly have been fit. I'm not suggesting he be exiled, but I'd prefer he came on with something to prove when the game is in the melting pot than what actually transpired
#12
GAA Discussion / Re: Sam Maguire Qualifiers 2022
April 24, 2022, 11:29:34 PM
It all depends on luck of the draw, but Mayo could almost end up with more rest time and an easier route to a quarter final.

These are two potential routes to a hypothetical semi final:
Offaly Clare Roscommon
Kerry Dublin Tyrone

The second one is quite unlikely and the first would require an incredibly favourable draw. Still a lot up in the air.
#13
GAA Discussion / Re: Sam Maguire Qualifiers 2022
April 24, 2022, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: sam03/05 on April 24, 2022, 11:25:13 PM
How does a preliminary round work in this competition?

If a tailtean cup team makes their provincial final as far as I know
#14
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht SFC 2022
April 24, 2022, 11:18:01 PM
I have to say about Mullin too, and I said it last year, there's far too much pressure on him. He's been made out as some saviour of mayo football but we really haven't seen it from him.

He hasn't been very good this year. He was very poor in last years final, and didn't really feature before that. He did decently as a new player in the 2020 final when nobody else really played well. But I think expectations need to be reigned in a bit.

My starting half back line, all fit, would be Durcan Coen McLaughlin. Have Mullin on the bench, a bit less pressure, and let him really up his game to win his place
#15
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht SFC 2022
April 24, 2022, 11:15:09 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 24, 2022, 11:08:29 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on April 24, 2022, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on April 24, 2022, 07:00:32 PM
Better team won on the day. Coldrick did his best to guide Mayo back into the game when they were dead and buried trailing by 5 with 2 VERY soft frees leading directly to 2 Mayo scores to put just a goal between them.
Maybe it's the bias but at the match I thought Coldrick was a disgrace not giving the black card and a pile of soft frees for Mayo on top of that, Cillian O'Connor could have murdered someone out there and I wonder would Coldrick have even looked at his book to give a tick.
Galway got serious white line fever and nearly fucked it away, kickouts will ultimately be our undoing, terrible again.
Great win in Castlebar but I thought Mayo were clueless in second half, incredible to see really given all Horan and those players have come up against before, Galway basically copied what Kerry did in league final but we don't have as good players to drive it home when on top.
Tierney and a few other Galway lads need to seriously up it if we're to win Connacht, lot of unforced mistakes out there today, Comer and Conroy were immense though, serious footballers.

As I said before, any team with a good defensive set up will beat Mayo.

We don't have the players - due to injuries or otherwise - to use the running game anymore. Let's be honest, Mullin hasn't set the world alight and is not a man marker in the mould of Chris Barrett or Higgins in his heyday.

Galway totally dominated midfield, Jordan Flynn sorely missed. Ruane wasn't at the races at all today, (nor the league final either for that matter). Hopefully our injuries clear up in the next 6 weeks, but until our forwards can do what Galway's forwards did today then the shark infested waters of the backdoor could swallow us up.

I think this falls squarely on Horan. He refuses to adapt so we're still playing the one game plan running game. But we had no runners today. So we were playing a running game with no runners.