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I don't know what the motivation was but there certainly is some logic in the 3 teams going through other than money. It greatly reduces the number of dead rubbers and increases the importance of topping the group.

you have got it all wrong. Its all money. Grab all association and what have you..........

I wouldn't go that far but is people in Croke Park whose remit is to maximise profits and at times they need to be reined in.

To what end? Who is benefiting from these profits?

Whoever is benefiting does not give a licence to do whatever you want, no matter how unscrupulous or adversely affecting our games, in order to make profits.

How is it unscrupulous and how is it affecting our games?

We've more games than historically on terrestrial and another batch on GAAGo. You can literally fill your boots with gaelic games at the weekends. Is this not what we want?? Double headers coming out our ears atm. TG4 show a load of games outside of the championship.

You can chose to buy a GAAGo season pass, individual games or none.

The season is now split so 95% of clubs and club players can have their county players back earlier, remember, it's not all about county

I don't know what the motivation was but there certainly is some logic in the 3 teams going through other than money. It greatly reduces the number of dead rubbers and increases the importance of topping the group.

you have got it all wrong. Its all money. Grab all association and what have you..........

I wouldn't go that far but is people in Croke Park whose remit is to maximise profits and at times they need to be reined in.

To what end? Who is benefiting from these profits?

The uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.

50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants

The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters

In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters

So out of touch its not funny

Sorry, Itchy, but he's right. The anarchist/ anti-fa wing of SF has been found out by the right-thinking ones, and SF doesn't have a clue what to do. It's quite funny, really!

Are you pro-fa?

Don't have any faith in Derry getting a result against Galway, don't think we have ever beat them in Senior championship.

Last time we played them in Q's, Conor Lane gave us as sore a riding as I've ever seen from a referee.

PS sorry to intrude on an Armagh thread lol

This version of Derry has played Galway a few times, lost 2 and won 1, league / championship. So history, bogey team etc wouldn't come into my thinking. Home advantage and their inside forward line does. If I was a gambling man I'd say there will only be a kick of a ball in it with Galway winning a fairly open game of football. Could be a cracker. Hope I'm wrong

I'm not sure what your point is, or if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me.

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Injuries look like being the main factor atm if true

The GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past

Perfectly put.

The modern business phenomenon of trying to clean as much money off people as possible is one we could do without in the GAA.

Considering there's far more options now to spend less (a few quid on GAAGo to stream a game if its not on terrestrial TV) and stay at home rather than the much heftier expense of travelling to the games , how exactly are the GAA  trying to clean as much money as possible when they're showing far more games now than in the past?

If you buy a qualifier batch ticket you're getting 3 games for the price of 2.

Also, take into considerarion 83% of this money goes back out the door. The more that comes in, the more goes out

Hi men! I am Giovanni from Italy, I come from Rome. I am an amateur soccer player and now I discover this new sport, i.e. Gaelic Football.
I have already read all the rules but I still have doubts.
Ok, let's get started.

1. When the player is in possession of the ball, the ball is held in his hands, he could:
  A. throw the ball in the air and catch it again with your hands? I think not, right?
  B. throw the ball in the air, hit it with any part of the body except arms and hands and then catch it in the hands? I don't think so, am I right?
  C. throw the ball and hit it with any part of the body, maybe like someone throws the ball in the air and then hits it with his head, legal?
  D. Bringing the ball with the hands at head height and then, without either throwing or releasing it, hitting the ball with the head or any part of the body except the hands, legal?

2. Rule: 1.5 When the ball has not been caught, it may be bounced more than once in succession.. So a player could control the ball with one hand (or two?) and play it basketball style as far as he wants? It would be much easier than soloing so how come we don't see it? The reason I expect is that 'caught' does not infer with both hands?

3. When a player tries to catch a ball in the air he may touch the ball several times with his hands as long as he has control of it. But could he continue to bounce the ball from his hand into the air as Hurling players do with stick and ball?
Rule: To play the ball up with the hand(s) and catch it again before it touches the ground, another player, or goal-posts
But, according to the rule, a player, once he touches the ball once in the air, cannot touch it a second or third time?
I believe as long as he can't control the ball the player could do it, but if we interpret the rule literally this wouldn't be legal, would it?

4. Situation: a player takes possession and hops the ball.

 A. After the hop he flicks it up in the air and catches it before it bounces the ground, a posts or a player.
 B. he flicks it to pass the ball to someone else.
 C. he flicks it to score a goal.
are A, B, C legals?

5. Situation: a player with the foot or with other parts of body but the hands tries a "Sombrero trick" and:
 A. in the air he strikes the ball to an other direction.
 B. in the air he strikes the ball and then he caught it.
 C. in the air he caught it and goes on.

6. Ladies Gaelic football allows this:
Rule: A player may toss up the ball with one hand and play it off with the same hand.
So a player toss up the ball with right hand, surpass a player and then he can catch it with right hand, legal?
What does mean this Rule: Showing the Ball or Turning Twice with the ball is NOT a foul providing it is done within the 4 step rule.
I mean what are the showing the ball or turning twice.

Thanks

I add also these questions

Handpass
When a player makes a legal handpass (with one or two hands) he may do:
  A. After he makes a legal handpass, can he catch or just touch the ball on the fly, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player?
I imagine a scenario in which, to overcome an opponent, the player makes a legal hand pass, then goes around him, and finally catches the ball on the fly. But would it be legal?

  B. After legal handpass, can he touch the ball with any part of his body (are arms also considered hands?) except his hands, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player?
That is, imagine a player who makes a handpass and then hits the ball on the fly with a foot, a thigh or with the head or, much more spectacularly, with the chest, to pass the ball to a teammate or even to score a goal or a point. Would it be legal?

C. After a legal handpass, can the player touch the ball with any part of his body and then catch it with his hands?

Point with handpass
We know that to score a point is possible either by kicking or handpassing the ball over the crossbar. But with a handpass does the ball have to be hit with a closed fist or can it be hit with an open hand?
Now we have this:

A fist pass may be used to score a point, a Hand Pass may not.

But in the GAA Rules we have it is legal to score a point with a handpass in which the ball is hit with both a fist and an open hand.
Rule:
A player on the team attacking a goal and who
is in possession of the ball may not score:
(i) by carrying the ball over his opponents'
goal line;
(ii) a goal with his hands except as provided
in Rule 1.2, Exception (ii) but may score a
point with the open hand(s) or fist.

Other question:
The ball may be knocked from an opponent's
hand(s) by flicking it with the open hand
But when the ball is released or is bouncing or soccer juggling, i.e. I mean when the ball is not in contact with the hand, can it be stolen by touching it or grabbing it with both hands?

Sorry for my long time but I hope you can help me understand all my doubts. We can't play without understanding all of this.
Thanks

Could anyone help me understand these doubts?

Thanks

Can we assume all the passes are legal!!

A. Yes as long as the ball bounces before collecting

B. Yes

C. Yes as long the hands don't touch the ball on the ground

Point with handpass : open or closed fist are both allowed

Yeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?

Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)

Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?

If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that?  even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?

Must have missed this question I asked earlier burdizzo

Oh. Most people don't answer my questions, either. I'd actually forgotten.

Yes, it is almost impossible to properly vet people, so most will be 'unvetted'. Given that, I think the rate of enforced deportations should be much higher. That is absolutely possible under the current laws.

What do you mean by "up in arms (literally)", referring to me, by the way?

Out protesting is up in arms, burning hostels , graffiti on walls and so on, are you protesting to get the judiciary to do it quicker or not have any asylum system in place or

Swapping 'arms' for 'keyboard (anonymous)' would be more accurate

I'm happy to put on a small bet the game will not throw at 5pm !

If the GAA want casual fans to go then it's a stupid time. I'll be there as always for a Roscommon game but I'll be watching something else before hand having a pint. Will 15k even attend the game ?

There was 30K at the game last year and it included the Dublin v Galway Leinster hurling game. There was a decent smattering of maroon around Croke Park that day.

Attendance won't be great. A round of Dublin club games Division 1-4 fixed for 6-30 that evening.

Poor form by Dublin CB.

They had a round of junior games on 3 mornings of Leinster championship games. With looking to have leagues wrapped before club championship no leeway to move games.

Sunday?

Donegal must not be a very Irish nationalist people (as shown in my link) Now you can understand why I would never support an ROI county in football. Maybe they can go play in Connaught.

https://ibb.co/xHtQMrC

You're always on point Norm. Must be the Fanad Tatums. Fred is a wrong'un

Don't have any faith in Derry getting a result against Galway, don't think we have ever beat them in Senior championship.

Last time we played them in Q's, Conor Lane gave us as sore a riding as I've ever seen from a referee.

PS sorry to intrude on an Armagh thread lol

This version of Derry has played Galway a few times, lost 2 and won 1, league / championship. So history, bogey team etc wouldn't come into my thinking. Home advantage and their inside forward line does. If I was a gambling man I'd say there will only be a kick of a ball in it with Galway winning a fairly open game of football. Could be a cracker. Hope I'm wrong

Sean said he missed the word amateur as in they are a very rich amateur group.

Burns is turning into a politician. Of course they gaa are rich, whatever the offical figure is they are far richer.

Where do you think all the money comes from for brown envelopes

This makes zero sense. Have to seen the turnover figures and the amijbt that is required in the next while?

What brown envelopes to to who are you talking about?

The point is for an amateur organization to have cash reserves of tens of millions of pounds they can hardly call themselves poor.

If they care about raising revenue then wouldnt it be easier to drop the ticket prices a bit to encourage more attendance.

The brown envelopes are the payements made to every manager in the gaa, these arent exactly going through the books now are they.

I actually dont have an issue with paying for some games but for Burns to come out and justify it by saying we need the money while having large cash reserves is just wrong.

Surely they have to have cash reserves when they multiple projects to plan for annually?

The GAA has just offered €25 euro off when buying the Qualifier package...hopefully only the start (they really need to make the season ticket more attractive)

Brown envelopes within clubs, how is this relevant? That's between clubs and whoever fills those brown envelopes.. That's a discussion to be had but surely not relevant here?

[Galway struggled in the group.]

it will be interesting to see how each of the provincial winners cope with their first games, each of the winners last year all struggled with the first game of the group. Kerry lost to Mayo, Derry were flat against Monaghan, Galway struggled in the group. Psychological difficult after winning a championship to lift yourself immediately for a new competition.

Galway won their first 2 group games, indeed they didn't lose a game (by a point, with a 2 week break) until 6 weeks after they won Connacht

The Kerry minor goalie gave away a penalty last night for overcarrying.
I've never seen a goalie give away a penalty before for a technical foul.

Penalty only if it happened in the small square (technical foul) , same for any defending player. If he over carries in the big square it's a 13m free in, obviously aggressive fouls anywhere inside the small / big square is a penalty

Sean said he missed the word amateur as in they are a very rich amateur group.

Burns is turning into a politician. Of course they gaa are rich, whatever the offical figure is they are far richer.

Where do you think all the money comes from for brown envelopes

This makes zero sense. Have to seen the turnover figures and the amijbt that is required in the next while?

What brown envelopes to to who are you talking about?

With the exception of Kildare (and who can ever trust Kildare), every team off a 4-6 week break outperformed expectation in Round 1 last year against the team coming off a provincial final. Some of them by a huge margin:

Mayo beat Kerry by 6 having been 4 points underdogs
Ros drew with Dublin as 7 pt underdogs
Westmeath lost by 1 v Armagh as 6 pt underdogs
Monaghan drew with Derry as 6 pt underdogs

Ball is firmly in Derry's court this weekend. Connacht final was entertaining but lowish on quality, and its hard to see Galway getting to the same pitch again after an emotional win. 3 or 4 good performers and Comer to carry proceedings again won't cut it. Wouldn't rule out Cavan against Mayo in group 2 either

2 week break not long enough? 3 weeks better and no Connacht title be better