Norn Iron gets the chop at GAA game

[armaghniac]

... coat trailing maps.

Yes, we have hit peak MOPERY!!!

/Jim.

Once someone refers to MOPERY you know that the person using it has no case and is a WUM to boot. The concept of MOPERY is that if there is some other set of people more oppressed in the world that Irish people have no right to complain. There is no reason why Irish people should be happy with an oppression even if they have it worse somewhere else.

Take your forelock tugging somewhere else.

[Jim_Murphy_74]

... coat trailing maps.

Yes, we have hit peak MOPERY!!!

/Jim.

Once someone refers to MOPERY you know that the person using it has no case and is a WUM to boot. The concept of MOPERY is that if there is some other set of people more oppressed in the world that Irish people have no right to complain. There is no reason why Irish people should be happy with an oppression even if they have it worse somewhere else.

Take your forelock tugging somewhere else.

Come on, do you really think that a business that pays money to support Gaelic Games and is capitalising by trying to gain customers, really put a map on the ad as a "coat trailing exercise"
 
Do you genuinely think that Donnelly Group parted with money just to put up a Northern Ireland map? 

I can't see other than:

1) They wanted to support the GAA, so they hardly wanted to coat-trail

2) They wanted to advertise to a big crowd, so they hardly wanted coat-trail

3) They wanted to coat-trail so they pay money to GAA to get a good place to coat-trail

To me 3 is a ridiculous conclusion.

/Jim.

[omaghjoe]

Fair play to yer man for drawing attention to the fact that the Donnelly group does not operate in Counties Down or Armagh.

A sneaky piece of false advertising to customers from Armagh and Down who would be regular attendees at Pearses games.

[stiffler]

It was all a ploy by Donnelly group !

All publicity is good publicity !!

(P.s. Their radio ads are annoying)

[armaghniac]

3) They wanted to coat-trail so they pay money to GAA to get a good place to coat-trail

To me 3 is a ridiculous conclusion.

What better place to coat trail? No point in doing at some OWC gig as they support this sort of carry on.

[Hardy]

It's a matter of relative degrees of lunacy. Islamists just take their outrage at drawings a lot further.

[seafoid]

... coat trailing maps.

Yes, we have hit peak MOPERY!!!

/Jim.

Is MOPERY like thon and catching yourself on ie only used in NI? What does it mean?

[LeoMc]

... coat trailing maps.

Yes, we have hit peak MOPERY!!!

/Jim.

Is MOPERY like thon and catching yourself on ie only used in NI? What does it mean?

Most Opressed People Ever.
Just read the above thread, a GAA sponsoring company logo can lead to a paroxysm of paranoia.

[seafoid]

NI is not something the GAA recognises. I don't think it should be featured at GAA matches, any more than the butcher's apron should.

[Jim_Murphy_74]

3) They wanted to coat-trail so they pay money to GAA to get a good place to coat-trail

To me 3 is a ridiculous conclusion.

What better place to coat trail? No point in doing at some OWC gig as they support this sort of carry on.

So you think that someone in this company said we will give sponsorship to the GAA and pay for an ad in the ground, all to annoy republicans with a map of Northern Ireland?

/Jim

[Jim_Murphy_74]

NI is not something the GAA recognises. I don't think it should be featured at GAA matches, any more than the butcher's apron should.

There is a difference between "featuring" and having a tacit acknowledgement of reality.  The ad only reflects the fact that Donnelly's business is in a part of the world called Northern Ireland.  Just like taking sterling at the stile acknowledges that Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

Plus as members of the GAA surely people want to promote the games?

Michael Hasson talks of "outreach to unionists" and Ulster Council signed up to "Sport Uniting Communities". It seems incongruous to say Ulster GAA wants unionists involved (and take grants for it through outreach schemes) but then sends the message that any mention or acknowledgement of Northern Ireland (even on the periphery) is unacceptable.  If this club approves of what happened the ad, they should also table an object through County Board to GAA participation schemes like "Sport Uniting Communities" and cancel the "unionist outreach" as they involve recognising Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

/Jim.

[Jim_Murphy_74]

... coat trailing maps.

Yes, we have hit peak MOPERY!!!

/Jim.

Once someone refers to MOPERY you know that the person using it has no case and is a WUM to boot. The concept of MOPERY is that if there is some other set of people more oppressed in the world that Irish people have no right to complain. There is no reason why Irish people should be happy with an oppression even if they have it worse somewhere else.

Take your forelock tugging somewhere else.

Once someone refers to MOPERY   forelock tugging you know that the person using it has no case and is a WUM to boot.

/Jim

[armaghniac]

... coat trailing maps.

Yes, we have hit peak MOPERY!!!

/Jim.

Once someone refers to MOPERY you know that the person using it has no case and is a WUM to boot. The concept of MOPERY is that if there is some other set of people more oppressed in the world that Irish people have no right to complain. There is no reason why Irish people should be happy with an oppression even if they have it worse somewhere else.

Take your forelock tugging somewhere else.

Once someone refers to MOPERY   forelock tugging you know that the person using it has no case and is a WUM to boot.

/Jim

I'm not debating with someone who uses the term MOPERY. No doubt you think that forelock tugging is also a  "tacit acknowledgement of reality" that some people are superior.

Northern Ireland is place whose existence is to ensure that a large proportion of the GAA community are second class citizens. If this not actually some form of coat trailing then the notion that using this as logo in a GAA ground as a means of selling more cars is a serious indictment of the quality of marketing education.

[Jim_Murphy_74]

If this not actually some form of coat trailing then the notion that using this as logo in a GAA ground as a means of selling more cars is a serious indictment of the quality of marketing education.

That I could buy: and it is a far cry from saying it is coat trailing.  Like the old black card, intent is everything here.

Two genuine questions:

• If you see this a reminder of being a second class citizen, do you not see Ulster Council's outreach initiatives to unionists as a reminder too? (Seeing as it is specifically targeting people who believe Northern Ireland should exist)
  
  Is the domain name ".co.uk" on an ad also a reminder and as such unwelcome in a GAA ground?

If no to these, why are the different to the picture on the ad?

/Jim.

[Throw ball]

Is the use of the 6 counties symbol not more a 'never thought about it' moment rather than any deliberate slight by the company. I know I saw one of the directors at an Armagh Intermediate championship match. I would assume that the sponsorship was a promotional rather than political decision.