El Classico - Breffni Park, Saturday 18th

Started by Itchy, May 14, 2019, 09:42:55 AM

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straightred

Quote from: illdecide on October 31, 2020, 03:53:37 PM
Jasus surely Banty was not at fault for the loss, a man of his experience and what he's given Monaghan over the years didn't get Monaghan beat...Combination of a lot of things surely?
You men will know better than me, just an opinion.

I don't have any inside knowledge but someone had to tell them to play like that in the 2nd half ?

RedHand88

Hurling aficionados not one bit happy about the dreaded big ball coverage taking precedence over the gift from the gods.

Main Street

 It's easy to say now Banty was the wrong choice after failing miserably at the first hurdle but apparantly it was the senior players who made the persuasive arguments at the time. O'Rourke's last year was dreadful, even more so than this year, perhaps he just escaped in time.

MayoBuck

Monaghan must have had 3 goal chances where they just fisted the ball over the bar. That lack of killer instinct cost them.

square_ball

Quote from: MayoBuck on October 31, 2020, 04:02:21 PM
Monaghan must have had 3 goal chances where they just fisted the ball over the bar. That lack of killer instinct cost them.

Dessie Ward in particular. A goal there and the game was over.

straightred

Quote from: MayoBuck on October 31, 2020, 04:02:21 PM
Monaghan must have had 3 goal chances where they just fisted the ball over the bar. That lack of killer instinct cost them.

scored 1 from 6 clear cut chances. 2 saved, 1 off the bar (really unlucky) and 2 fisted over the bar.

Captain Obvious

The best news of all for Cavan is if they reach the Ulster final they won't have to play in the Tommy Murphy cup mark 2 next summer. Antrim, Fermanagh or Down standing in their way now.

MayoBuck

Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 31, 2020, 04:11:43 PM
The best news of all for Cavan is if they reach the Ulster final they won't have to play in the Tommy Murphy cup mark 2 next summer. Antrim, Fermanagh or Down standing in their way now.

Surely it would be next summer they'd have to make the Ulster final to avoid tier 2?

Main Street

Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2020, 04:09:47 PM
Quote from: Main Street on October 31, 2020, 04:01:37 PM
It's easy to say now Banty was the wrong choice after failing miserably at the first hurdle but apparantly it was the senior players who made the persuasive arguments at the time. O'Rourke's last year was dreadful, even more so than this year, perhaps he just escaped in time.
Easy to say now but it was even being said when he was being considered.

Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2019, 02:24:44 PM
Surely it would be a backward step for Monaghan to appoint Banty?
He has proven with a number of counties that he's not great.
But you don't count. There were persuasive forces in the county who thought Banty would be the man to pick up the pieces after that awful last year with O'Rourke. Meath were a basket case and Banty had some form with the Monaghan minors.  I was doubtful just like many other distant observers but there was a decent looking backroom. Now it's easy to say he was the wrong choice, time and place.



Itchy

Not sure where that performance came from but fair play to our boys for eeking that out. Yes we rode our luck but sometimes you make your own luck. Talk of Banty tactics is fair enough but I thought Graham had blown it too when we refused to push up in the 3rd quarter when we were clearly superior around the middle. He left it till the 4th quarter and we immediately made hay and I think we probably would have won in it in normal time if the ref had to play the right amount of time.

Thomas Galligan, a lad who has shown glimpses of what he is capable of before, came on and was phenomanal, a wrecking ball in the middle that Monaghan just had no answer to. His winning and driving of that very last kick out were what he was all about and what a free from Ray to win it. 55 to 60m out and I thought over all we just deserved it.

In modern times, thats probably a Cavan championship win like no other given we came into that game missing a huge amount of 1st teamers, on the back of relegation, 2 very poor shows and a lot of our prepartions destroyed by COVID. A lot of negativity around and bookies having us at 10/3. Where the lads dug that performance out of I have no idea.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Main Street on October 31, 2020, 04:41:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2020, 04:09:47 PM
Quote from: Main Street on October 31, 2020, 04:01:37 PM
It's easy to say now Banty was the wrong choice after failing miserably at the first hurdle but apparantly it was the senior players who made the persuasive arguments at the time. O'Rourke's last year was dreadful, even more so than this year, perhaps he just escaped in time.
Easy to say now but it was even being said when he was being considered.

Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2019, 02:24:44 PM
Surely it would be a backward step for Monaghan to appoint Banty?
He has proven with a number of counties that he's not great.
But you don't count. There were persuasive forces in the county who thought Banty would be the man to pick up the pieces after that awful last year with O'Rourke. Meath were a basket case and Banty had some form with the Monaghan minors.  I was doubtful just like many other distant observers but there was a decent looking backroom. Now it's easy to say he was the wrong choice, time and place.

On news of his appointment you said 

QuoteThis cannot and won't happen
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

bannside

Here we go. Its all Bantys fault. Never saw a manager kicking so many wides. Last year it was pool old Malachy kicking wides too. Who ya want next year?

the goal was on

Yeah but last year Monaghan missing both Hughes Kearns Mc Carthy and others. Banty had full deck and players had got their first test in a long time over the winter . Cavan were team missing the players this year

Cunny Funt

Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2020, 05:50:02 PM
Here we go. Its all Bantys fault. Never saw a manager kicking so many wides. Last year it was pool old Malachy kicking wides too. Who ya want next year?

Not all his fault as a number of Monaghans best players went missing. His tactics to sit on 7 point lead played a part in that defeat.  Well done to Cavan on a deserved win, they are a lot better than some of their own supporters was making out, plenty of good footballers that just need to work on their decision making and shot selection.

Itchy

Quote from: the goal was on on October 31, 2020, 05:59:32 PM
Yeah but last year Monaghan missing both Hughes Kearns Mc Carthy and others. Banty had full deck and players had got their first test in a long time over the winter . Cavan were team missing the players this year

Was malachi not bet by a point by fermanagh in a semi one time?