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You might as well appoint Piers Morgan as Roy Keane, pretty much the same thing

Well this is an absolutely ridiculous statement

Turnbull and Griffiths not good enough for Scotland then.

Griffiths not surprising as his fitness/professionalism is very questionable.

Turnbull you'd have thought would have got a go but Scotland are well stocked for midfielders with McGregor, McGinn, Christie, McTominay, Armstrong, Jack among others.

On a separate note, the Roy Keane rumours worry me, greatly.

I like Keane. But I don't want him anywhere near the place as manager. He can come as a fan any time he wants tho

SF supporters on the forum seem to be staging a private contest to see who can do the best impersonation of a four year old child

Really tough call as to who's currently winning

You. You are winning.

Sinn Féin did go berserk on the subject yesterday (incl starting a thread here) months after the story first broke and months after Varadkar gave his response in the Dáil.
Most non Shinners suspect it was to obscure their differing policies on abortion in the 6 and 26.

I had no idea SF posted on this board. Learn something new everyday I guess.

[Why should anybody forget about Sinn Fein]

Trailer - try and forget about Sinn Fein for a minute

do YOU think that the Tanaiste should be allowed work in his role when he is under Garda investigation for leaking confidential information to his friend?

Why should anybody forget about Sinn Fein now when any time the PIRA are brought up you bring up the old IRA?

Shinners created these rules

Don't complain about the rules - you created them

SF and SF supporters like you have zero moral authority to complain about the misdeeds of any other politicians because SF for years has been about corruption and murder

Whatever has gone on in FF and FG for decades, SF are far, far worse

Because this issue has nothing to do with SF and despite some us of trying to redirect you and others to the 520 page SF bashing thread you and your buddies just keep coming back.

SF aren't speaking for me when they are calling for his resignation. I'm speaking for myself any only for myself when I say that he should step aside. I'm not asking for him to give up his seat or anything like that but rather I'm simply saying that while he is under criminal investigation for leaking a document (which he admits leaking) then it is completely inappropriate for him to hold the office of Tainiste or any other Ministerial job.

The thread title is "Should  Leo stand down until investigation complete?"
In a word... Yes

It's a fair enough opinion to believe Varadkar should stand aside, taken alone on the merits of the case

The point is, it's would be a totally ludicrous opinion for any SF supporter to believe Varadkar should stand aside after denying that O'Neill and Adams should stand aside when they were under criminal investigation

And that's the view SF supporters here seem to hold

So that total hypocrisy naturally becomes a focus of discussion

SF supporters continually defend SF by invoking things which are nothing to do with SF

They are the masters of illegitimate and trolling whataboutery

But bringing up Adams and O'Neill's refusal to stand aside when under criminal investigation is perfectly legitimate - it is to demonstrate that SF have no moral standards

The thing is that the more SF whine about this, the more they are actually driving public sympathy for Varadkar from a place where he might not have had it

SF's interventions very much help Varadkar in the court of public opinion

Nothing more was needed after the first sentence

No, it definitely was

Because SF supporters are in favour of a party of with a long history of criminality and brass neckery and thus have no moral authority whatsoever to speak on the Varadkar issue

That cannot be repeated enough

If definitely wasn't. The question was nothing to do with SF so bringing them up was not required in your answer

[Why should anybody forget about Sinn Fein]

Trailer - try and forget about Sinn Fein for a minute

do YOU think that the Tanaiste should be allowed work in his role when he is under Garda investigation for leaking confidential information to his friend?

Why should anybody forget about Sinn Fein now when any time the PIRA are brought up you bring up the old IRA?

Shinners created these rules

Don't complain about the rules - you created them

SF and SF supporters like you have zero moral authority to complain about the misdeeds of any other politicians because SF for years has been about corruption and murder

Whatever has gone on in FF and FG for decades, SF are far, far worse

Because this issue has nothing to do with SF and despite some us of trying to redirect you and others to the 520 page SF bashing thread you and your buddies just keep coming back.

SF aren't speaking for me when they are calling for his resignation. I'm speaking for myself any only for myself when I say that he should step aside. I'm not asking for him to give up his seat or anything like that but rather I'm simply saying that while he is under criminal investigation for leaking a document (which he admits leaking) then it is completely inappropriate for him to hold the office of Tainiste or any other Ministerial job.

The thread title is "Should  Leo stand down until investigation complete?"
In a word... Yes

It's a fair enough opinion to believe Varadkar should stand aside, taken alone on the merits of the case

The point is, it's would be a totally ludicrous opinion for any SF supporter to believe Varadkar should stand aside after denying that O'Neill and Adams should stand aside when they were under criminal investigation

And that's the view SF supporters here seem to hold

So that total hypocrisy naturally becomes a focus of discussion

SF supporters continually defend SF by invoking things which are nothing to do with SF

They are the masters of illegitimate and trolling whataboutery

But bringing up Adams and O'Neill's refusal to stand aside when under criminal investigation is perfectly legitimate - it is to demonstrate that SF have no moral standards

The thing is that the more SF whine about this, the more they are actually driving public sympathy for Varadkar from a place where he might not have had it

SF's interventions very much help Varadkar in the court of public opinion

Nothing more was needed after the first sentence

[Cos he likes to paint himself as superior to SF?]

Trailer - try and forget about Sinn Fein for a minute

do YOU think that the Tanaiste should be allowed work in his role when he is under Garda investigation for leaking confidential information to his friend?

Michelle O'Neill didn't stand aside when under investigation and in fact refused to, so why should Leo?

Cos he likes to paint himself as superior to SF? Cos MO'N wasn't the incoming Taoiseach? Cos she wasn't being investigated for corruption?

Varadkar is superior to SF

In terms of morals, ability, action, trustworthiness, accountability

That's not hard to be fair - so is my local drug dealer

Telling statement that one.

It explains a lot

Some amount of deflection on this thread. SF live rent free in an awful amount of posters heads

Sid. Try and get through a post without mentioning SF. Try. I dare ye

I'm not sure what league they are trialling this in but the league Rob Kearney is playing in now is doing the 50:22 rule which looks like a good way of rewarding a good kick into the opposition 22 by giving the kicking team the line out ball rather than the defending team

So they have basically taken the 40:20 rule from rugby league

Seems like very few people care

Sinn Fein have been less than vocal anyway and that's hardly a surprise given they have no moral authority whatsoever to call out corruption

Though maybe they could use some of the Northern Bank money to fund their own "investigation"

You're trying to do one of two things Sid.

Trying to wind up SF posters, and don't give a sh!t if you side track another thread to do so just so you can point score.

Trying to supress discussion about the actual issue by trying to use distracting whataboutery.

Neither is an addition to the board and you are acting like a complete child.

Sorry but the strategy of Sinn Fein supporters literally any time anything to do with the PIRA or Sinn Fein corruption or murder is brought up is to whatabout, deflect and deny

See what happened when the Paul Quinn story raised its head before the last election

So it's absolutely laughable to see SF supporters complaining here

There's a very serious point here

And that is that Sinn Fein supporters have zero moral authority to call any sort of corruption - alleged or proven - and this case is far from proven

Again, Varadkar's mistake was that he didn't order a human bomb, rob a bank, cover up child sex abuse, cover up murders, or commemorate a Nazi collaborator

Because these are the exact things that Sinn Fein supporters not just tolerate but celebrate

Whereas you turn everything into SF bashing

Varadkar's mistake is that he wasn't involved in the murder of an innocent woman, didn't order a human bomb, didn't cover up his brother's paedophilia and didn't eulogise a Nazi collaborator

Had he done any of those things, the Shinnerbots would defend him to the death

And just like that things go to shit again

The mistake the women at the vigil made was that they were women, peaceful, masked up, socially distanced and genuinely concerned with a matter of the utmost importance for society

If they had been violent anti-mask loons, EDL thugs, or drunk Rangers hooligans, they would have been treated with kid gloves

The reaction of the cops would sort of remind you of Sinn Fein supporters here - ignore the big crimes of your mates, focus on the tiny misdemeanours of others

Back and just can't resist a dig. Typical and sad

Yeah only Trump is to blame tbh.

There is probably a point in there on Twitter but Morgan went too far. He has always been pushing boundaries. Just like he came back from the Iraq photos he will come back from this. He's a guy that deserves no sympathy.

Giving the go ahead to tap a dead girls phone takes some beating all the same.

He's an odious individual.

I thought more would have been made of him haranguing his colleague for wearing a mini skirt on the same day but it seems to have been pushed aside.

That was car crash alright and as you say pushed aside but you might expect it to get an airing again with the big push to raise awareness in the male population in how we behave towards our female colleagues in the work environment and in public since the murder of Sarah Everard.

Hopefully it does because it was very poor from Morgan

It's bizarre, I understand if working in an environment like the shipyard/Shortts like I did, I expected that and in fairness the reality wasn't as bad as what outsiders thought.

But in every other working environment I've been in after that it's been nothing but friendly, good banter with proper slagging and no one taking things thick

I know don't forget I work almost entirely with Catholics, so people are free to say what they really think most of the time 😜

Aye - A bit of harmless anti protestant / unionist / loyalist slagging - Sure, it's all a bit of craic sure, and it's not remotely sectarian or bigoted in any way!
PS - I appreciate you have previously addressed the elephant in the room yourself, but your last post is quite telling and backs up your original point quite nicely

That's a load of nonsense. How does it back up his original point? Go back and read his original point and tell me how it backs it up