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https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0627/1307102-orourke-on-brawl-armagh-the-common-denominator/

Admittedly I like ORourke but when a meath man talks about other teams thuggery I take it with a pinch of salt

[I honestly thought he should have had red]

I would agree with a lot of that. I would have preferred Armagh won but I do generally like Galway. Comer was wired in that game and I honestly thought he should have had red. Walsh while wasn't fantastic was subject to some not great treatment by Morgan so I wouldn't have his behaviour down as quite as bad as you would but still expected better from him both behaviour wise and taking the game to armagh wise.

On what basis should Comer have seen red?

Some of the claptrap here since the match yesterday is incredible. That was a great game, fair play to both sets of players, a phenomenal atmosphere in the stadium which the Armagh support contributed to in a massive way. The melee was the usual handbags with the exception of one complete tr**p who should be fucked out from playing for a year.

Shane Walsh "feigning injury", I'll be kind and assume this person wasn't in CP, how Morgan didn't get a second yellow is the only "remarkable" thing. It's even noted in the IT match report, "they should also have been without James Morgan whose enthusiasm for wrestling Shane Walsh and clattering into him off the ball miraculously failed to draw further punishment than one yellow card.". Presumably this will be disavowed as West Brit propaganda.

I met some absolute gents from Armagh both pre and post match in and around CP, a much fairer appraisal of the match and the controversies was had with them, so to come online and read back through this thread is surprising, either people weren't at the match or if they were, have put some quare slant on what happened out there. I would have preferred a replay for the game but both teams knew that penalties were a possibility.
Galway turned up and once they got over the first 15 minutes gave the performance that was required on a big day. Finnerty, Tierney and McDaid came of age in Galway jerseys yesterday, Tierney had not been in top form in Connacht but came alive in CP. Shane Walsh did not have a good game, he'll know that himself, the great thing is that there is another match to try and play better in only two weeks away.
The Galway collapses are seriously troubling as against Mayo, Roscommon and now Armagh, Galway have been the better team and have contrived to make comfortable victories into something that would take years off you. Gleeson and the kickouts have been flagged as a huge weakness for a long time and it is hard to believe that we got away with those catastrophic errors yesterday. Armagh were gifted 3 goals and still didn't win, the grit and clutch play from McDaid in ET to ensure that they didn't was a sight to behold.

Derry are a formidable team and the league result will have no bearing on the semi final whatsoever. Galway need to show up and play better again the next day again, simple as that.

Good post. Best of luck in a fortnights time

Forgot to mention Comer. I was giving out about him and his antics to my brother during the game. Fair enough they probably weren't that bad but they annoyed me. However, once Galway scored the winner and their players were all celebrating - nothing wrong with that - Comer went and shook the hands of every Armagh player. Speaks volumes about him. Fair play.

[Tyrone live with this daily.]

So there you are now. Some thoughts.

It was fantastic entertainment.
Rian O'Neill is a serious player. What a huge performance. Great score at the end but he was everywhere. But he is all Armagh have. A lot of the rest of them are limited players.
The sending off was a funny one. Initally I thought it very harsh, felt a yellow was enough but looking at it again last night I can see why Coldrick gave it.
Galway are a good team. A lot of Armagh ppl felt that it was only a matter of turning up. Had heard a lot of stories of Armagh fans getting carried away. Galway didn't get caught in the hype and after they settled they went about their business with great efficiency. They did shite the togs. They need to learn how to lose games out.

The row was the row and yer man made a bollocks of himself. Everyone will get off no matter what suspensions the GAA throw at them. Coldrick made a balls of it. Contributing to a melee is the referees get out of jail card. But this is a problem of the GAAs making. They have let Armagh off all year and they will continue to behave this way. Dublin and Kerry also got let off similarly.

If the GAA are serious about dealing with the issue they need to address the mess that is the rulebook. A referees report must be sacrosanct. No reds overturned ever. No matter what. If the ref gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Tough. Use only video to retrospectively ban for serious foul play missed by the referee. If he deals with it, then that's the matter closed. No appeals on technicalities because the report wasn't submitted in 4 different versions of Irish or this nonsense.

So Coldrick made a balls of it but the refs report must be sacrosanct. If you're winding at least don't make it so obvious. Sean Kelly doesn't deserve to miss an all ireland semi final. Thought the ref was woeful all day tbh.

I'm not winding. If Coldrick thought he had any power he'd have lined 15 from each side. The rulebook is a mess and then by extension so was his handling of the row.
I was kind of on your side but you know what you're proving everyone's point. Armagh can do no wrong. It's their responsibility. There is a clear Armagh directive, one in all in. Can't send us all off boys. They all pumped up out of their minds like McGeeney was when he played.

Armagh are playing with the big boys now and need to realise that every single incident will be poured over. Tyrone live with this daily.

Tyrone haven't lived with it much this year anyway, they were long gone before the championship had even begun in earnest.

Sean Kelly will get off on appeal because looking at the replay he done nothing to warrant a red card. The Galway player that swung a punch at Kelly should get banned and after that it was all argy bargy stuff with very little actual foul play. But the media will make a big deal of it as usual and big bad Armagh will probably get the blame.

Jesus Christ. A person could have lost his sight.
If Armagh owned up here ppl would have more sympathy.

Most of us have. It doesn't matter that Tak is actually a good guy who does a lot in the community etc. he done what he done and must face the consequences. He needs to be let do that tho and left to learn form his mistake. The witch hunt has to end

Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and won't be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures don't look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way

Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn't. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.

Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal

Tonto, I'm guessing you're either a relative or friend of the player involved but the worst possible thing anyone can do is pretend that was accidental Excuse it with a rush of the blood moment or whatever but noone associated with Armagh GAA should make an excuse for it. Just call it for what it is ffs

Same club tho my playing days are long since over and I don't actually know him. I wrote that having only seen the photo. I've since seen the video and can't excuse him. He will have a deserved ban coming. I hope he takes it and learns from it and moves on from it. Also hope he is allowed to move on from it. As has been said, the witch hunt on SM is behind a joke

After seeing Armagh's red card and behaviour today, I think we've been wrong about Tyrone - compared to other teams in Ulster, Tyrone are a sporting, clean, non-cynical team of good honest men.

With the Galway goalkeeper having such a horror show today, you'd have thought the Armagh penalty takers would have been told to at least keep their penalties on target.

That's where they went wrong. The management clearly told the players to not hit the target....

Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and won't be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures don't look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way

Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn't. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.

Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal

I'm sorry to hear that about your nephew. Unfortunately big games bring the dickheads out of the woodwork. Get him going to league games where them boys are not at. I think you assessment is fair but the eye gouge looks so deliberate,  I just can't see any mitigation against it.

Cheers mate. He has been to loads of games all over the country already. We indoctrinate them early in our family haha. The poor lad was crying for an hour afterwards tho. He's pretty resilient tho so hopefully he will shake it off and be raring to go for the McKenna cup. Me on the other hand....

If the eye gouge wasn't intentional then what was he trying to do? I don't understand how it couldn't have been intentional tbh.

Looks like he could be trying to push the guy away and connects with his eyes. I don't know. I'm sitting here with a heavy heart and it isn't just the result that is making it that way. Maybe I just don't want to think an Armagh player, a player form my own town and club, would do that.

Just home. Some thoughts.
1. Wel done Galway. Better team. Deserved winners. It was a smash and grab raid at the end from us. We never really got going otherwise.
2. The ref. No complaints. He gave some soft frees but against both teams. I thought McCabe made a fair but hard shoulder challenge but apparently he raised his arm so had to go.
3. The melee. Sadly we are the common denominator and while it looked like Comer was the instigator we have only ourselves to blame for getting involved. Again.
4. The gouge. I do not believe for one second, and won't be convinced otherwise, that he meant to do that. However he did it. The pictures don't look good and he will have to face the consequences of his own actions and take whatever ban comes his way.
5. Penalties. What more can I say. Gutted to lose that way

Lastly, and it is with a heavy heart that I wrote this. I am ashamed to be an Armagh fan today. My nephew is 5. He was in the toilet with his dad. 5 grown men. Armagh supporters, got into a fight. One of them knocked my nephew over. The lad is traumatised. He will get over it but will he want to go back to a game again? Woukd you blame him if he didn't. The guys were wearing Armagh tops. My nephew thought they were players ffs. At this stage I am not sure I want to go back to a game.

Anyway. Best of luck to Galway against Derry in the semifinal

Hendersons are the biggest rip-off in the country and should be boycotted. Shop in Lidl etc and buy their own brands for the most stuff. Its have the price and less and tastes the same. £2.10 for mustard in my local Hendersons, its £55p in Lidl and tastes better.

You can't actually buy mustard in France atm, or at best it's one jar per customer . Was told it was something to do with failure of the Canadian mustard seed crop. Mad that there's no word of that here.

Just out of tesco there and they had plenty...

Anyways, if I get a break in the day on a Friday I tend to nip out and do the usual weekend shop..

Wasn't too bad and stayed with the clubcard priced items, fresh veg, chicken, mince beef, sausages, steak (for me tonight as she's out) wine (5 bottles) beer, sodas pancakes, couple of the street food recipes (which are great and handy) some passata and some crisps and biscuits and chocolate..

£79 after the clubcard deductions

what did ye buy for the rest of the family?

Ive changed my mind in relation who will win about 100 times. We have the ability to win but so do Galway. Its a cliché but it could wee come down to who wants it most on the day.

Sure is the price of a barrel of oil not away down this past few weeks?

has not gone

Oil is priced in dollars, if you watch Drici's thread the dollar is up against £ and € partly because of these events.
Petrol has gone up over the summer because the Americans do a lot of driving around then, which is why diesel has not gone up so much.
However, oil has fallen a bit in the last day or so, we should see this show up.

diesel has not gone up so much???

Just saw Top Gun. Fantastic. Makes the original look pretty rubbish.

Just back from it. Absolutely loved it.

same. It was brillaint

Little physicality, you got 3/4 lads over 6ft 4in depending on who u starting.

I can think of only one lad that height on the whole panel - Patrick Kelly.

what size is Comer?

What do SF do with all the money?

Why don't you become a member and ask them? I'd guess a lot is spent on paying activists councillors etc... I don't know and I am no more bothered about how they spend the money than I am about FF, FG or the SDLP. But before you cast your nod and a wink accusations why don't you investigate and call them out on the facts?

its easier to make nod and a wink accusations though