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"I don't think Fergal should have been sent-off. Someone was holding the ball and he put the shoulder in him and that's part of the game."  Damien Cassidy

Just on this point, McQuaid wasn't holding the ball, he was running across it when Doherty went over to get it. Being a bit of a nuisanse yes, but Doherty was awful stupid to shoulder him over right in front of the ref and him on a yellow, after a good few warnings too.

I don't think Mullan was as devious as everyone is making out.

McManus rugby tackled the man for Gods sake - where's the referee for Gods sake?

In fairness if McManus wants to drag the game down to that level he deserves a knee in the jewels.




Oh and the ref does too!

Yes but the difference is Mullen will be getting a ban while McManus won't, what does that tell you about which was worse? People get dragged off the ball all the time, especially in Ulster, but you don't see scumbags kneeing fellas in the balls every week.

Mullen an absolute disgrace, hope he gets at least a Month, no call for the dirty low tactic he resorted to. An absolute sc**bag.

thought Mullan did his job - Enda Lynn was out muscled today - Brian showed what was needed. Fight fire with fire!

So you're advocating Mullen's actions, well there's clearly no talking to you. And you think Monaghan are a disgrace!

Schkite it was Monaghan we where playing - as Cassidy said we had to match Monaghan physically and Derry did today. It was not nice and it did not entertain the public watching on television - but Monaghan are no angels!

Yes but I'm talking about you agreeing with Mullen's actions. You can be physical without resorting to a low blow like that. We're no angels surely but I'm trying to say neither are Derry, people making out like we dragged them down to our level!  Derry were the worse at it today.

Mullen an absolute disgrace, hope he gets at least a Month, no call for the dirty low tactic he resorted to. An absolute sc**bag.

thought Mullan did his job - Enda Lynn was out muscled today - Brian showed what was needed. Fight fire with fire!

Don't defend Mullen for what he did was disgusting. If his job was something in UFC (Ultimate Fighting Challenge) then he did his job, it was cowardly and uncalled for and I hope to God he gets his comeuppance.

Well at least you can see it was wrong, but you still need to take off the blinkers in regard to some of the other stuff. We were missing players too you know. As Maguire said, we kicked ourselves out of it. Had our forwards been anyway on their game in the first half we'd have won. That's not even mentioning the square ball goal which Bradley wasn't even sure of at the time.

And the most negative team in Ulster, hardly! Watch any football last week? This game was always going to be dirty after the last 2 years.

Mullen an absolute disgrace, hope he gets at least a Month, no call for the dirty low tactic he resorted to. An absolute sc**bag.

thought Mullan did his job - Enda Lynn was out muscled today - Brian showed what was needed. Fight fire with fire!

So you're advocating Mullen's actions, well there's clearly no talking to you. And you think Monaghan are a disgrace!

Dick Clerkin is one dirty dirty *******.

How did you manage to single out Clerkin out of all that went on today?

Clerkin should have walked at the end of the 1st half pushed the Derry man in the face in front of the ref after the whistle and him sitting on a yellow. Clerkin is a dirty fouling b**tard and always has been, he's well named put it like that.

Doherty should have went earlier too, tripped up a player right in front of the ref right after his first yellow. Or what about when he had Clerkin down, holding his head into the ground, he was far more guilty then Clerkin today no matter what you Derry yokes say.

[fergal was a saint putting up with it for so long]

Having the blinkers one doensn't describe what's coming out of some here!

Clerkin was absolute disgrace - gesturing to the crowd with his little TV box - he was at doherty the whole game - fergal was a saint putting up with it for so long.

Yeah he was a real credit to your county today! 

Both teams were at it FFS, if you can't see that there's no saving you.

Referee was rubbish.

I agree, how he didn't send off Mullen for kneeing McManus in the balls I'll never know.

All the same whiskeysteve, Vinny's no slouch, I'd be confident enough of him keeping up with E Bradley. But we'll need to be winning the breaks and cutting off the supply at the same time. That half-back line of ours is generally fairly attacking so not sure if they'll all be crowding the defence, though there's a good chance that D Freeman will be deployed as a sweeper in front of the full-back line as he has been in the past.

You're right, Vinny is no slouch and I think he's one of the best players Monaghan have, but don't underestimate the speed of Skinner. He will win 70-80% of the ball played in front of the 2 of them. It remains to be seen what he will do with that posession but I can actually see him becoming at least as important to our attack as Paddy.
I think both half-back lines are fairly attack minded so I can see this being a lot of counter-attacking football from both side, but at the same time I cant see huge scores.
Who knows what will happen...but I cant wait!

Yeah by all accounts Eoin Bradley has come on some amount this year, read an interview with him there this week and he said he was in the gym all winter. Seems like he's becoming a real dangerous forward in his own right and stepping out of Paddy's shadow. There's alot of talk about him having a big year in him so I'll look forward to seeing him tomorrow. Both teams have been focusing on this game over anything else since the draw was made, and it's only a day away! Can't wait myself!

All the same whiskeysteve, Vinny's no slouch, I'd be confident enough of him keeping up with E Bradley. But we'll need to be winning the breaks and cutting off the supply at the same time. That half-back line of ours is generally fairly attacking so not sure if they'll all be crowding the defence, though there's a good chance that D Freeman will be deployed as a sweeper in front of the full-back line as he has been in the past.

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So i see 5 Sams, i turned it on this morning and the end of the video for "All i want is you" was just finishing, they seemed to be burying someone in it. I have never seen it before and had a quick look on Youtube but it was all live versions. Anyone have a link?

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-TssRlmmBE

I'd say that will be the team that lines out alright. JP mustn't be fully fit and you wouldn't want to throw him in here like that. To be honest it might work out for the best as now it's fairly obvious who's marking who, and it looks good I think; Dessie on P Bradley, Vinny on E Bradley, and McArdle will follow Kielt wherever he goes.

Nani won't feature in the CL final then, thank fcuk.

I'd say if JP is fit it'll be McArdle to miss out, bit harsh but Banty seems to prefer to start Damien.

It would be idiotic to drop McManus IMO, Ronaghan starting ahead of Downey is a possibility though given his lack of experience, but I'd still start Downey and Ronaghan is a good man to come on.

Any starting team announced by Monaghan yet?

Wondering the same myself!

Announced at training tonight I think.

Apparently we're hot favourites in the minors going by the papers, but I wouldn't know much at all about the Derry minors so I couldn't really compare. Seems like Derry only have one of last year's team back, while we have eight back, 4 of which were starters last year. Players like Boyle, McCarey and Dooney still there along with 12 of the All-Ireland VEC winning team of this year, it does look good on paper but as I say I'd know nothing of the Derry team.