Teachers get it handy!

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JimStynes

When are the snow days scheduled for this year?

Owen Brannigan

3 day week for all this week
4 day week for some next week
No school for some in following week and the rest are on a 3 day week.

Avondhu star

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 17, 2017, 10:29:53 PM
3 day week for all this week
4 day week for some next week
No school for some in following week and the rest are on a 3 day week.

You should have done the teaching yourself and thereby create a vacancy for a village idiot
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Avondhu star on October 17, 2017, 11:46:28 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 17, 2017, 10:29:53 PM
3 day week for all this week
4 day week for some next week
No school for some in following week and the rest are on a 3 day week.

You should have done the teaching yourself and thereby create a vacancy for a village idiot

Had planned to do that but since you already had got that job there was no need to help you out.

Jim Bob

Quote from: Avondhu star on October 17, 2017, 11:46:28 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 17, 2017, 10:29:53 PM
3 day week for all this week
4 day week for some next week
No school for some in following week and the rest are on a 3 day week.

You should have done the teaching yourself and thereby create a vacancy for a village idiot

If he was a typical 'walking principal' he would have avoided the actual classroom like the plague.

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: hardstation on November 29, 2017, 08:47:02 PM
4 and a half day week for Breda Academy!! Just when you think it can't get any handier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42169677

Hard to see how much money can be saved on a shorter day once per week when the salaries of the teachers and ancillary staff still have to be paid and that makes up 90% of the daily costs, the remainder is 5% for heat, light, etc and 5% for curriculum costs.  Looks more like a PR stunt.

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 29, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 29, 2017, 08:47:02 PM
4 and a half day week for Breda Academy!! Just when you think it can't get any handier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42169677

Hard to see how much money can be saved on a shorter day once per week when the salaries of the teachers and ancillary staff still have to be paid and that makes up 90% of the daily costs, the remainder is 5% for heat, light, etc and 5% for curriculum costs.  Looks more like a PR stunt.

Or you only need 90% of your current staff; a decent saving on your costs. A few temporary teachers will lose their jobs.

manfromdelmonte

luckily the salaries in the south are paid for by the department, not the schools themselves

Milltown Row2

Not enough hours in the day for some schools, if they (teachers) are following the strike action then its becoming very difficult for the school to run as normal, kids losing out and teachers becoming more stressed as the course has to be covered...

who'd be a teacher?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on November 30, 2017, 06:46:23 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 29, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 29, 2017, 08:47:02 PM
4 and a half day week for Breda Academy!! Just when you think it can't get any handier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42169677

Hard to see how much money can be saved on a shorter day once per week when the salaries of the teachers and ancillary staff still have to be paid and that makes up 90% of the daily costs, the remainder is 5% for heat, light, etc and 5% for curriculum costs.  Looks more like a PR stunt.

Or you only need 90% of your current staff; a decent saving on your costs. A few temporary teachers will lose their jobs.

Turns out it is more related to industrial action whereby the teachers don't do directed time and all activities such as meetings, parent-teacher meetings etc have to be done during school hours, hence the half day for pupils.

Jim Bob

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 30, 2017, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on November 30, 2017, 06:46:23 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 29, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 29, 2017, 08:47:02 PM
4 and a half day week for Breda Academy!! Just when you think it can't get any handier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42169677

Hard to see how much money can be saved on a shorter day once per week when the salaries of the teachers and ancillary staff still have to be paid and that makes up 90% of the daily costs, the remainder is 5% for heat, light, etc and 5% for curriculum costs.  Looks more like a PR stunt.

Or you only need 90% of your current staff; a decent saving on your costs. A few temporary teachers will lose their jobs.

Turns out it is more related to industrial action whereby the teachers don't do directed time and all activities such as meetings, parent-teacher meetings etc have to be done during school hours, hence the half day for pupils.

Fair enough. Time government made aware of how their policies are affecting day to day education.

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Jim Bob on November 30, 2017, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 30, 2017, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on November 30, 2017, 06:46:23 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 29, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 29, 2017, 08:47:02 PM
4 and a half day week for Breda Academy!! Just when you think it can't get any handier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42169677

Hard to see how much money can be saved on a shorter day once per week when the salaries of the teachers and ancillary staff still have to be paid and that makes up 90% of the daily costs, the remainder is 5% for heat, light, etc and 5% for curriculum costs.  Looks more like a PR stunt.

Or you only need 90% of your current staff; a decent saving on your costs. A few temporary teachers will lose their jobs.

Turns out it is more related to industrial action whereby the teachers don't do directed time and all activities such as meetings, parent-teacher meetings etc have to be done during school hours, hence the half day for pupils.

Fair enough. Time government made aware of how their policies are affecting day to day education.

It's not a government policy, it faux industrial action, children are being affected but those carrying out the industrial action are not at any loss as a result of their refusal to work as required by their contracts because they know that the people they are striking against will not take any action against them for breach of contract.  On the other hand the unions say they are striking against the 'employers' but the 'employers' are a not a unitary body, they consist of CCMS, EA and Boards of Governors of the 35+ voluntary grammar schools who negotiate along with Dept of Education (not an employer but provide the cash).  The 'employers' cannot make any deal with the teachers' unions because there is no executive minister to decide the cash available or to sign off the deal. 

The blame for not settling last year's and next year's public sector pay deals is now being loaded on SF-DUP refusing to come to a power sharing deal to have ministers in place to sign off the deals.

In the meantime, children in school receive less teaching time as their teachers are in meetings during the school day and some children are being sent home earlier than usual to allow teachers to do the activities that are meant to be outside their teacher time per week of 26.5 hours per week but within the 1265 hours they are contracted to work in school each year.

Even if the industrial action is settled soon with a pay deal, it will be hard to see how schools will revert to teachers working outside the school for meetings, etc as a practice has been established which has not collapsed the school day and which the Board of Governors of the school has effectively allowed and not not challenged as a breach of contract.


Owen Brannigan

Quote from: bogball88 on December 01, 2017, 10:52:50 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/teacher-faces-being-struck-off-after-allegedly-having-a-bobby-sands-coffee-cup-in-classroom-36368317.html
Some laugh for a Friday there  ;D

Both in England & Wales and in Scotland the teaching professions have General Teaching Councils with real teeth who can deal with all sorts of complaints against teachers and then suspend or remove their access to being teachers.  Both have published the professional standards by which teachers must comply. Fair play, if you want to be called a profession and professionals then standards are set and applied by the governing bodies like the GMC and the GDC for doctors and dentists.

http://www.gtcs.org.uk/regulation/hearings-schedule-and-decisions.aspx

http://www.gtce.org.uk/teachers/reg_prof/index.html

Here in N.Ireland the SF education ministers ensured that this right was not in place for the GTCNI although the last man had begun to put in place some form of tougher regulation of the teachers like the other regions of the UK whereby complaints could be dealt with by an independent body away from the school thereby relieving the Board of Governors of the task of dealing with their teachers when complaints arose.