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Re: Kilkenny
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2016, 12:49:23 PM »
The Kilkenny PR machine gets bigger every year!

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Re: Kilkenny
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2016, 10:03:31 PM »
Eddie Keher!

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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2016, 10:21:05 PM »
There is no way Kilkenny should benefit from any serious football match.

I can understand the Laois manager's frustration but considering the way the Kilkenny CB views football it is a crazy decision:

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0515/788609-flynn-dubs-date-in-nowlan-park-makes-no-sense/
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2016, 07:10:10 AM »
A big financial loss for the town of Portlaoise.  The politics of Leinster football and Kilkenny must be Byzantine.
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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2016, 08:27:19 AM »
the ideal game to have had in Kilkenny this weekend was Kildare v Wexford!!

Henry is on about other leinster counties again

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/henry-shefflin-throws-down-the-gauntlet-to-dublin-and-wexford-1.2649789

He still hasn't mentioned the round robin series in Leinster in his four columns this year

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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2016, 08:20:53 AM »
I love Kilkenny's stickwork but their media work and the dirt  sicken me . Cody is a great manager but he is clearly disturbed.
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2016, 09:31:22 AM »
I love Kilkenny's stickwork but their media work and the dirt  sicken me . Cody is a great manager but he is clearly disturbed.

WTF? That's a fairly serious statement to make. A better word might be 'driven'. Or are all successful and intense managers (Ferguson, Mourinho, Harte, et al.) 'disturbed'?

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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2016, 09:36:49 AM »
I love Kilkenny's stickwork but their media work and the dirt  sicken me . Cody is a great manager but he is clearly disturbed.

WTF? That's a fairly serious statement to make. A better word might be 'driven'. Or are all successful and intense managers (Ferguson, Mourinho, Harte, et al.) 'disturbed'?

Fergie was disturbed as well AZ. So is Mourinho. Anyone who resorts to bullying or thuggish behavior is disturbed as far as I am concerned.
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2016, 06:42:06 AM »
“Since [Brian] Cody took over, ourselves and Cork are the only teams that have beaten them three times in championship. Tipp have only beaten them once.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/galway-s-david-burke-refuses-to-buy-into-notion-of-kilkenny-invincibility-1.2719582

“We had them kind of rattled [in the Leinster final] and I thought they were kind of panicking a bit. They brought on Richie Hogan, who’s a serious lad to bring on, and he kind of got them out of a small bit of a hole after half-time.

“They seemed to find that little bit more. I don’t know how they do it. They turn it over quickly and get fast ball in then and you’re kind of caught.

“With Kilkenny, it’s their ability to get in last-second tackles and not giving you a second at even picking the ball up off the ground. It’s their ability to keep the ball in them kind of ruck situations. There’s no real tactics, it’s just their work rate is way better.”
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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2016, 08:35:20 AM »
“Since [Brian] Cody took over, ourselves and Cork are the only teams that have beaten them three times in championship. Tipp have only beaten them once.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/galway-s-david-burke-refuses-to-buy-into-notion-of-kilkenny-invincibility-1.2719582

“We had them kind of rattled [in the Leinster final] and I thought they were kind of panicking a bit. They brought on Richie Hogan, who’s a serious lad to bring on, and he kind of got them out of a small bit of a hole after half-time.

“They seemed to find that little bit more. I don’t know how they do it. They turn it over quickly and get fast ball in then and you’re kind of caught.

“With Kilkenny, it’s their ability to get in last-second tackles and not giving you a second at even picking the ball up off the ground. It’s their ability to keep the ball in them kind of ruck situations. There’s no real tactics, it’s just their work rate is way better.”

I wonder if there's any stats out there on Kilkenny and how many rucks they win possession or retain possession in. They're fantastic at it.

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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2016, 01:48:21 PM »
“Since [Brian] Cody took over, ourselves and Cork are the only teams that have beaten them three times in championship. Tipp have only beaten them once.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/galway-s-david-burke-refuses-to-buy-into-notion-of-kilkenny-invincibility-1.2719582

“We had them kind of rattled [in the Leinster final] and I thought they were kind of panicking a bit. They brought on Richie Hogan, who’s a serious lad to bring on, and he kind of got them out of a small bit of a hole after half-time.

“They seemed to find that little bit more. I don’t know how they do it. They turn it over quickly and get fast ball in then and you’re kind of caught.

“With Kilkenny, it’s their ability to get in last-second tackles and not giving you a second at even picking the ball up off the ground. It’s their ability to keep the ball in them kind of ruck situations. There’s no real tactics, it’s just their work rate is way better.”

I wonder if there's any stats out there on Kilkenny and how many rucks they win possession or retain possession in. They're fantastic at it.

They win ball and off load it once in the rucks, they always have a outlet running off the ruck to either handpass or scoop out to... this isn't luck that this happens, they do it, I'd imagine, in training drill or game plays back at Nowlan Park
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Re: Kilkenny
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2016, 05:12:09 PM »
It's no coincidence that Cody brought in a football man to help with that sort of body contact stuff.

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Re: Kilkenny
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2016, 06:30:45 PM »
I think there are only 2 ways to beat them

Higher intensity levels with stickwork to match theirs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb52kJeCzoA

Get the goals before 15 mins into the second half to break them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k38XD4dYMY

They can reel back 7 points but they can't reel back 10 points with the momentum and the clock against them

The cat body language at the end of the 2010 match is what you want
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Re: Kilkenny
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2016, 11:32:11 PM »
Brian Gavin reffing the final it appears. Interestingly I seen a comment on another forum that Barry Kelly hasn't been given any of the last 10 KK games since the 2014 drawn final, a curious fact if it's correct, being one of the leading referees in the country.

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Re: Kilkenny
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2016, 12:30:21 AM »
Brian Gavin reffing the final it appears. Interestingly I seen a comment on another forum that Barry Kelly hasn't been given any of the last 10 KK games since the 2014 drawn final, a curious fact if it's correct, being one of the leading referees in the country.

Brian will be relieved that wee Tommy Walsh is retired and won't get the poke in the nose.