Can't see a topic on this but this shit seems to be getting real.
By all accounts its out of control in those 3 three African countries. Its in the states where some punter was at large for days before he fell ill and now a nurse in Madrid has it from treating a medical aid working who was returned from there.
How worried should we be getting?
Is this going to go Walking dead/28 days/shaun of the dead?
Is this going to be the black death of our age?
Say what you like about it, but he was the best right back arsenal ever had imo
Quote from: Bingo on October 06, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
Can't see a topic on this but this shit seems to be getting real.
By all accounts its out of control in those 3 three African countries. Its in the states where some punter was at large for days before he fell ill and now a nurse in Madrid has it from treating a medical aid working who was returned from there.
How worried should we be getting?
Is this going to go Walking dead/28 days/shaun of the dead?
Is this going to be the black death of our age?
I was reading about epidemics , Bingo and apparently Ebola is too lethal to be efficient in spreading to a wide enough number of people to do serious damage.
It doesn't kill thousands even in Sierra Leone. The Black Death it won't be.
Something like a bird flu emerging from Southern China would be more likely to do the business.
Quote from: seafoid on October 06, 2014, 06:31:01 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 06, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
Can't see a topic on this but this shit seems to be getting real.
By all accounts its out of control in those 3 three African countries. Its in the states where some punter was at large for days before he fell ill and now a nurse in Madrid has it from treating a medical aid working who was returned from there.
How worried should we be getting?
Is this going to go Walking dead/28 days/shaun of the dead?
Is this going to be the black death of our age?
I was reading about epidemics , Bingo and apparently Ebola is too lethal to be efficient in spreading to a wide enough number of people to do serious damage.
It doesn't kill thousands even in Sierra Leone. The Black Death it won't be.
Something like a bird flu emerging from Southern China would be more likely to do the business.
I read somewhere that they fear is that it develops and mutates into something stronger as it grows from this outbreak.
The numbers in Sierra Leone seem to be totally understated as they only count the people they can treat which is very limited.
Quote from: Bingo on October 06, 2014, 06:35:30 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 06, 2014, 06:31:01 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 06, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
Can't see a topic on this but this shit seems to be getting real.
By all accounts its out of control in those 3 three African countries. Its in the states where some punter was at large for days before he fell ill and now a nurse in Madrid has it from treating a medical aid working who was returned from there.
How worried should we be getting?
Is this going to go Walking dead/28 days/shaun of the dead?
Is this going to be the black death of our age?
I was reading about epidemics , Bingo and apparently Ebola is too lethal to be efficient in spreading to a wide enough number of people to do serious damage.
It doesn't kill thousands even in Sierra Leone. The Black Death it won't be.
Something like a bird flu emerging from Southern China would be more likely to do the business.
I read somewhere that they fear is that it develops and mutates into something stronger as it grows from this outbreak.
The numbers in Sierra Leone seem to be totally understated as they only count the people they can treat which is very limited.
The whole article is worth reading
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/apr/25/how-animals-may-cause-next-big-one/
"Viruses that are effective killers, like Ebola, tend to burn out quickly because they annihilate their hosts before germs can spread too far."
There are a few conspiracy theories floating around that Ebola was brought into the US by the government - to kill off enough people to allow them to pass some ridiculous border control laws.. Whether or not you buy into it all is up to you.....
Can t believe that things are so lax with movement in and out of these countries.
Not buying into the idea that it is too lethal to become widespread. It must be more contagious than at first thought because I m sure that nurse in Madrid would have been wearing one of those protective suits.
People seem to fall ill quite a while after exposure. It is thought that it can only spread from a person when they are ill but I doubt we know enough about it to assume anything. If it mutates and becomes airborne we would be in some bother.
Time to start stockpiling ;)
Pharmaceutical companies have the cure. They just have to work out how much they can charge for it.
Good vid as usual from Brand
http://youtu.be/HdnC_a-AR9k
Quote from: HiMucker on October 06, 2014, 06:21:59 PM
Say what you like about it, but he was the best right back arsenal ever had imo
Liability.
http://youtu.be/XiWtoydTYN0
Quote from: seafoid on October 06, 2014, 08:35:39 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 06, 2014, 06:35:30 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 06, 2014, 06:31:01 PM
Quote from: Bingo on October 06, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
Can't see a topic on this but this shit seems to be getting real.
By all accounts its out of control in those 3 three African countries. Its in the states where some punter was at large for days before he fell ill and now a nurse in Madrid has it from treating a medical aid working who was returned from there.
How worried should we be getting?
Is this going to go Walking dead/28 days/shaun of the dead?
Is this going to be the black death of our age?
I was reading about epidemics , Bingo and apparently Ebola is too lethal to be efficient in spreading to a wide enough number of people to do serious damage.
It doesn't kill thousands even in Sierra Leone. The Black Death it won't be.
Something like a bird flu emerging from Southern China would be more likely to do the business.
I read somewhere that they fear is that it develops and mutates into something stronger as it grows from this outbreak.
The numbers in Sierra Leone seem to be totally understated as they only count the people they can treat which is very limited.
The whole article is worth reading
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/apr/25/how-animals-may-cause-next-big-one/
"Viruses that are effective killers, like Ebola, tend to burn out quickly because they annihilate their hosts before germs can spread too far."
The current outbreak is actually less deadly (approx 50%) than previous outbreaks (approx 90%) which is why it's taking longer to get under control.
I'd expect to see an increased urgency from developed countries now that it has started to affect us directly.
During my relevantly short life so-far, I've seen many outcries of epidemics. None were ever realised. This will be the same.
Pandemics really only work if the thing can spread quickly and the population is weakened - eg Ireland in the Famine or Europe after WW1.
I don't think Ebola will do that much damage this time.
Quote from: ziggysego on October 06, 2014, 11:47:38 PM
During my relevantly short life so-far, I've seen many outcries of epidemics. None were ever realised. This will be the same.
This is an epidemic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_epidemic_in_West_Africa). And there have been plenty of others (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics) during your lifetime.
Quote from: orangeman on October 06, 2014, 10:16:54 PM
Pharmaceutical companies have the cure. They just have to work out how much they can charge for it.
That's it.
With this and Aids, they're doing a decent job of killing off a dozen or two Africans.
Quote from: orangeman on October 06, 2014, 10:16:54 PM
Pharmaceutical companies have the cure. They just have to work out how much they can charge for it.
There are a few great compounds in the works, but the crux is not "how much they can charge for it" rather how quickly they (the pharma companies) can get it fully approved. I'm working with two clients right now on Ebola compounds.
I think people need to calm down. Malaria kills multiples of the current figures for ebola, has a far more efficient delivery system, and, as climate changes heats up Europe, will become more prevalent in the Northern hemisphere.
The reason epidemics like the Black Plague were so virulent was that people had no understanding of how it was transferred - they thought it was carried by a phenomenon they called miasma, a stench that floated in the air - so when they saw rats coming off infected ships they thought they were trying to escape this cloud of death - not that they were carrying the agents of death on their backs.
Spanish flu was so virulent because after half a decade of the most savage war known to man, the human population (of Western Europe, and by extension, North America through mass immigration) had very low immune systems. Men who had survived the trenches died off very quickly from influenza as their bodies physically had no reserves left to mount defenses.
We have a lot more knowledge now, so the odds on a huge pandemic occurring are actually quite high. A lot of the global risk think tanks would be far more worried about rogue scientists manufacturing a pathogen and releasing it either accidentally or doing a "12 Monkeys" on it.
Modern technology has done a lot of bad things - but it has given us the capacity to fight outbreaks like this quite effectively. So chill the f**k out people, we got this.
I hope you are right easytiger!
This Spanish nurse is a worry though. She visited the two sick patients twice, both times in full protective clothing, yet she still caught it? She get it directly from them or another health care worker.
Plus she has been on holiday since they died and they are watching another 50 people who were in contact with her.
I'm stocking up on tinned goods.
We are all going to die
All the best
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain
Looks like they might as well have sent her in looking like the Rubber Bandits. Not surprising given how f**ked the Spanish economy is - but I doubt they'll make that mistake again.
;)
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 07, 2014, 05:36:58 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain
Looks like they might as well have sent her in looking like the Rubber Bandits. Not surprising given how f**ked the Spanish economy is - but I doubt they'll make that mistake again.
The Spanish health service is way beyond ours in my experience. Much more professional from what I saw.
Not sure about your explanation of the severity of Spanish Flu of 1918 either. If anything the experiences of the soldiers in trenches would have maybe 'hardened' them up. A friend of mine's granduncle fought at the Somme and survive only to come back and die from the flu.
The bottom line with that Spanish Flu is that it made no sense. Flu usually is hard on elderly and people already with an illness. Spanish flu killed young healthy people mostly. Young girls that were nowhere near the war woke up and went to work and were dead by evening. Nobody knows what that virus was at! Our understanding of viruses is superficial at best. We can only react and try and deal with stuff as it happens. That s what s happening now.
I can t understand the blaisé approach to this. We ll I can. It s all about getting people to get on with normal life so business/economics is not messed about.
I m continuing to stockpile. Loads of spuds and powdered milk for a start as well as the obvious canned food and smoked stuff and bacon that will last a bit. ;)
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 07, 2014, 11:29:09 AM
I think people need to calm down. Malaria kills multiples of the current figures for ebola, has a far more efficient delivery system, and, as climate changes heats up Europe, will become more prevalent in the Northern hemisphere.
The reason epidemics like the Black Plague were so virulent was that people had no understanding of how it was transferred - they thought it was carried by a phenomenon they called miasma, a stench that floated in the air - so when they saw rats coming off infected ships they thought they were trying to escape this cloud of death - not that they were carrying the agents of death on their backs.
Spanish flu was so virulent because after half a decade of the most savage war known to man, the human population (of Western Europe, and by extension, North America through mass immigration) had very low immune systems. Men who had survived the trenches died off very quickly from influenza as their bodies physically had no reserves left to mount defenses.
We have a lot more knowledge now, so the odds on a huge pandemic occurring are actually quite high. A lot of the global risk think tanks would be far more worried about rogue scientists manufacturing a pathogen and releasing it either accidentally or doing a "12 Monkeys" on it.
Modern technology has done a lot of bad things - but it has given us the capacity to fight outbreaks like this quite effectively. So chill the f**k out people, we got this.
One counter point however is that modern life in terms of movement and contact with others is orders of magnitude greater than what it would have been back in 1918. Not saying that we should be panicking about Ebola but the potential for a huge epidemic is not just science fiction
;)
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 07, 2014, 05:36:58 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain
Looks like they might as well have sent her in looking like the Rubber Bandits. Not surprising given how f**ked the Spanish economy is - but I doubt they'll make that mistake again.
The Spanish health service is way beyond ours in my experience. Much more professional from what I saw.
Not sure about your explanation of the severity of Spanish Flu of 1918 either. If anything the experiences of the soldiers in trenches would have maybe 'hardened' them up. A friend of mine's granduncle fought at the Somme and survive only to come back and die from the flu.
The bottom line with that Spanish Flu is that it made no sense. Flu usually is hard on elderly and people already with an illness. Spanish flu killed young healthy people mostly. Young girls that were nowhere near the war woke up and went to work and were dead by evening. Nobody knows what that virus was at! Our understanding of viruses is superficial at best. We can only react and try and deal with stuff as it happens. That s what s happening now.
I can t understand the blaisé approach to this. We ll I can. It s all about getting people to get on with normal life so business/economics is not messed about.
I m continuing to stockpile. Loads of spuds and powdered milk for a start as well as the obvious canned food and smoked stuff and bacon that will last a bit. ;)
Quote from: moysider on October 08, 2014, 12:00:37 AM
;)Quote from: easytiger95 on October 07, 2014, 05:36:58 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain
Looks like they might as well have sent her in looking like the Rubber Bandits. Not surprising given how f**ked the Spanish economy is - but I doubt they'll make that mistake again.
The Spanish health service is way beyond ours in my experience. Much more professional from what I saw.
Not sure about your explanation of the severity of Spanish Flu of 1918 either. If anything the experiences of the soldiers in trenches would have maybe 'hardened' them up. A friend of mine's granduncle fought at the Somme and survive only to come back and die from the flu.
The bottom line with that Spanish Flu is that it made no sense. Flu usually is hard on elderly and people already with an illness. Spanish flu killed young healthy people mostly. Young girls that were nowhere near the war woke up and went to work and were dead by evening. Nobody knows what that virus was at! Our understanding of viruses is superficial at best. We can only react and try and deal with stuff as it happens. That s what s happening now.
I can t understand the blaisé approach to this. We ll I can. It s all about getting people to get on with normal life so business/economics is not messed about.
I m continuing to stockpile. Loads of spuds and powdered milk for a start as well as the obvious canned food and smoked stuff and bacon that will last a bit. ;)
Got myself a gun so I can go and have a "chat" with the lads stockpiling if the time comes ;)
I ve already laid in xtra ammo for my own guns Muck Savage. Nobody ll get near my stuff ;D
The Liberian man diagnosed with Ebola last month just days after arriving in Texas has died following nearly two weeks in a Dallas hospital's isolation room, officials confirmed.
Thomas Eric Duncan, believed to be 42, who became the first person diagnosed with the killer virus on American soil during the current pandemic, died early Wednesday after a battle that sparked a national debate on screening of visitors from West Africa, which has been ravaged by the disease. His death came a day after officials began treating him with an experimental drug and days after he had taken a dramatic turn for the worse.
Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian national, had been placed on a ventilator and kidney dialysis after his health declined over the weekend.
"It is with profound sadness and heartfelt disappointment that we must inform you of the death of Thomas Eric Duncan this morning at 7:51 a.m.," a spokesman from Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital said in a statement.
"Mr. Duncan succumbed to an insidious disease, Ebola. He fought courageously in this battle. Our professionals, the doctors and nurses in the unit, as well as the entire Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas community, are also grieving his passing. We have offered the family our support and condolences at this difficult time," the statement said.
In a statement, Duncan's partner, Louise Troh, who is in quarantine, expressed her thanks to the Dallas community, her church and the Liberian community for their support.
"His suffering is over. My family is in deep sadness and grief, but we leave him in the hands of God. Our deepest sympathies go out to his father and family in Liberia and here in America. Eric was a wonderful man who showed compassion toward all," the statement said.
Duncan arrived in the U.S. on a commercial flight from Liberia in late September. He initially sought treatment at a hospital after feeling ill, but was sent home with antibiotics only to return two days later by ambulance. Duncan had been placed in isolation since Sept. 28.
Duncan reportedly had helped carry a 19-year-old pregnant woman to a taxi to go to the hospital just five days before he boarded a U.S.-bound flight. The woman later died.
Texas health officials have been monitoring 10 people who had close contact with Duncan, and 38 others who came into contact with that group. So far, none have shown any symptoms of Ebola, health officials said.
"This past week has been an enormous test of our health system, but for one family it has been far more personal. Today they lost a dear member of their family," Dr. David Lakey, commissioner of the Texas Department of State Health Services said in a statement.
"They have our sincere condolences, and we are keeping them in our thoughts. The doctors, nurses and staff at Presbyterian provided excellent and compassionate care, but Ebola is a disease that attacks the body in many ways. We'll continue every effort to contain the spread of the virus and protect people from this threat."
Duncan was the first person diagnosed with the deadly virus on U.S. soil, and had been given the experimental medication brincidofovir. A hospital in Nebraska said it is using the same drug to treat an American journalist, Ashoka Mukpo, who was airlifted from Liberia and arrived Monday.
Authorities in the United States and the public are on alert following Duncan's diagnosis more than a week ago, which raised concerns that the worst epidemic of Ebola on record could spread from three hardest-hit impoverished countries - Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia.
On Monday, President Obama announced that the U.S. government is preparing additional measures to screen passengers in the U.S. and overseas as part of the expanding effort to contain the virus.
"We're ... going to be working on protocols to do additional passenger screening both at the source and here in the United States," the president said.
Ebola has killed more than 3,400 people since an outbreak in West Africa began in March, out of nearly 7,500 confirmed, probable and suspected cases.
Dallas residents have mostly taken in news of Ebola within the city limits calmly, but many have kept a close eye on whether it might spread. Cars of Dallas County Sheriff's deputies who were at the scene of the apartment where Duncan stayed have been scrubbed as a precaution, the sheriff's office said.
The hospital and health officials have said mistakes were made in handling Duncan.
Duncan's family was legally quarantined on October 2, after refusing to comply with Dallas health official requests that they stay home. They are to remain in isolation for 20 days until the potential incubation period for Ebola is over. The family's home was disinfected on October 4, at which time they were moved a private residence in a gated community that was offered by a volunteer.
As I said. This is being made up as it goes along.
Nobody has a clue how this works. The only thing that seems to be of concern is that people are to get on with their lives as usual. The disaster movies were right all along. The mindset to keep people calm is more important than to tell people the truth. I m sure people in the WHO know this is well out of control but are kept under wraps. All we need to know that infected people are now in Europe and America. The nurse in Madrid's dog was euthanized because dogs apparently can be carriers. Hello! Or Holla! How many people was that nurse in contact before she showed symptoms? How many did those others shake hands with or kiss? How many dogs did this dog greet and how many people petted him/her? It s already a nightmare - just about how bad it s going to get imo.
Flights not restricted. Businesses not affected. Potential loss of lives well down the consideration afaic. Typical.
Quote from: moysider on October 07, 2014, 11:38:49 PM
;)Quote from: easytiger95 on October 07, 2014, 05:36:58 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain
Looks like they might as well have sent her in looking like the Rubber Bandits. Not surprising given how f**ked the Spanish economy is - but I doubt they'll make that mistake again.
The Spanish health service is way beyond ours in my experience. Much more professional from what I saw.
Not sure about your explanation of the severity of Spanish Flu of 1918 either. If anything the experiences of the soldiers in trenches would have maybe 'hardened' them up. A friend of mine's granduncle fought at the Somme and survive only to come back and die from the flu.
The bottom line with that Spanish Flu is that it made no sense. Flu usually is hard on elderly and people already with an illness. Spanish flu killed young healthy people mostly. Young girls that were nowhere near the war woke up and went to work and were dead by evening. Nobody knows what that virus was at! Our understanding of viruses is superficial at best. We can only react and try and deal with stuff as it happens. That s what s happening now.
I can t understand the blaisé approach to this. We ll I can. It s all about getting people to get on with normal life so business/economics is not messed about.
I m continuing to stockpile. Loads of spuds and powdered milk for a start as well as the obvious canned food and smoked stuff and bacon that will last a bit. ;)
It is hypothesised that the fully fledged immune system of young adults was stimulated in such a manner that it ending up worsening the patients condition. The immune system of the young, weak and the old was not able to mount such an overwhelming response and was largely more effective. Not a faulty paradigm when you consider the range of immune-mediated disease currently abound.
Quote from: moysider on October 09, 2014, 12:09:17 AM
As I said. This is being made up as it goes along.
Nobody has a clue how this works. The only thing that seems to be of concern is that people are to get on with their lives as usual. The disaster movies were right all along. The mindset to keep people calm is more important than to tell people the truth. I m sure people in the WHO know this is well out of control but are kept under wraps. All we need to know that infected people are now in Europe and America. The nurse in Madrid's dog was euthanized because dogs apparently can be carriers. Hello! Or Holla! How many people was that nurse in contact before she showed symptoms? How many did those others shake hands with or kiss? How many dogs did this dog greet and how many people petted him/her? It s already a nightmare - just about how bad it s going to get imo.
Flights not restricted. Businesses not affected. Potential loss of lives well down the consideration afaic. Typical.
You're a crackpot with little idea of the realities of the ID50, LD50, zoonotic diseases and there transmission, infection pressure or disease reservoir. It's a dog that could maybe kinda possibly have been infected with Ebola with a even lesser chance it could transfer it. It's not a dog running down every street in Madrid pissing Ebola into the drinking water.
Quote from: trileacman on October 09, 2014, 12:53:15 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 09, 2014, 12:09:17 AM
As I said. This is being made up as it goes along.
Nobody has a clue how this works. The only thing that seems to be of concern is that people are to get on with their lives as usual. The disaster movies were right all along. The mindset to keep people calm is more important than to tell people the truth. I m sure people in the WHO know this is well out of control but are kept under wraps. All we need to know that infected people are now in Europe and America. The nurse in Madrid's dog was euthanized because dogs apparently can be carriers. Hello! Or Holla! How many people was that nurse in contact before she showed symptoms? How many did those others shake hands with or kiss? How many dogs did this dog greet and how many people petted him/her? It s already a nightmare - just about how bad it s going to get imo.
Flights not restricted. Businesses not affected. Potential loss of lives well down the consideration afaic. Typical.
You're a crackpot with little idea of the realities of the ID50, LD50, zoonotic diseases and there transmission, infection pressure or disease reservoir. It's a dog that could maybe kinda possibly have been infected with Ebola with a even lesser chance it could transfer it. It's not a dog running down every street in Madrid pissing Ebola into the drinking water.
The crackpot in the disaster movies often turn out to have been right all along ;D ;D ;D
I ll let you write the paper on epidemiology. I ll continue to expect the worst.
A film that stayed with me http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagion_(film)
Talking to a scientist last night who made to the following points on Ebola. Note: Some he got from a documentary.
1: No one gave a s**t about it in US until 9/11. Before that it was just another virus killing a couple 100 people every year or two somewhere in Africa. Not high on the priority list. After 9/11 money was allocated to study it as it was put in a list of potential terrorist threats which of course makes sense.
2:The biggest problem (potential threat) with Ebola is control of the virus. Because of it's mortality rate and the way viruses work it is dangerous. e.g.
At moment it is limited to approx 10,000 people (we assume). This is still a relatively low volume in terms of population % although as we know it is increasing which is a worry. If that was extended to 100,000 people then the risk to the general human population jumps way up.
This is primarily because of the chance of the virus mutating into something far more dangerous and into something that is far more resistant to any current medicines that are out there.
And that is one of the worries.
3,400 people have died world-wide from this 'pandemic'.
Last year 34,080 people died in road accidents in the USA. This was an increase on previous years and was 'widely expected as more people are taking to the roadways as the economy improves'. So that is obviously a good thing.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/03/us-highway-road-deaths-increase/2132457/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/03/us-highway-road-deaths-increase/2132457/)
Quote from: muppet on October 12, 2014, 12:48:13 AM
3,400 people have died world-wide from this 'pandemic'.
Last year 34,080 people died in road accidents in the USA. This was an increase on previous years and was 'widely expected as more people are taking to the roadways as the economy improves'. So that is obviously a good thing.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/03/us-highway-road-deaths-increase/2132457/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/03/us-highway-road-deaths-increase/2132457/)
Each year in the 26 counties at least 5,200 people die from diseases caused by tobacco use. This represents approximately
19% of all deaths. That's 100 people a week. .
http://health.gov.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/TobaccoFreeIreland.pdf
What is rarely discussed is that smokers on average live 10 years less.
Our brains aren't good at relating numbers and risks.
Dallas hospital nurse now has ebola after following all the procedures, although and unknown breach in protocol is alleged to have been made, whatever that means!
Is this more contagious than they're letting on?
Quote from: johnneycool on October 13, 2014, 09:26:18 AM
Dallas hospital nurse now has ebola after following all the procedures, although and unknown breach in protocol is alleged to have been made, whatever that means!
Is this more contagious than they're letting on?
They wear a protective suit but they have to take it off. Say she wiped her face without thinking. Followed all the other protocols but that lapse. The virus is not airborne but as soon as it gets access to the face it can enter the body via the nose or mouth.
People are talking about a marshall plan for west africa. The danger of letting regions deteriorate to the point where they breed disease like this Ebola is far too high for our globalised world.
Iraq could also become a disease hotspot.
Quote from: seafoid on October 13, 2014, 10:13:28 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 13, 2014, 09:26:18 AM
Dallas hospital nurse now has ebola after following all the procedures, although and unknown breach in protocol is alleged to have been made, whatever that means!
Is this more contagious than they're letting on?
They wear a protective suit but they have to take it off. Say she wiped her face without thinking. Followed all the other protocols but that lapse. The virus is not airborne but as soon as it gets access to the face it can enter the body via the nose or mouth.
People are talking about a marshall plan for west africa. The danger of letting regions deteriorate to the point where they breed disease like this Ebola is far too high for our globalised world.
Iraq could also become a disease hotspot.
Second nurse has developed ebola in Dallas and was on an internal flight the day before with 138 other passengers on board!
Some nurses body was on TV last night saying the staff in the hospital we're properly attired to deal with the Liberian lad, not is all as it seems!
mid-term elections are coming up here. Gas is under $3 a gallon again - shock horror and we have a threat to the nation of America.
We're all being played... AGAIN
Would the lower mortality rate not make this outbreak more deadly?
Woman who handled an ebola sample (maybe contaminated waste or something?) now in self quarantine.... On a cruise ship.
Now there is the makings of a movie. We are not equipped to deal with this. Talked to a Doctor last night from the city and between our 3 hospitals in Reno - we have 5 rooms capable of housing Ebola patients. 6.
Quote from: Puckoon on October 17, 2014, 03:03:45 PM
Woman who handled an ebola sample (maybe contaminated waste or something?) now in self quarantine.... On a cruise ship.
Now there is the makings of a movie. We are not equipped to deal with this. Talked to a Doctor last night from the city and between our 3 hospitals in Reno - we have 5 rooms capable of housing Ebola patients. 6.
Cuba showing the elite the way on Ebola;
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/opinion/cubas-impressive-role-on-ebola.html?action=click&contentCollection=International%20Business&module=MostEmailed&version=Full®ion=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/opinion/cubas-impressive-role-on-ebola.html?action=click&contentCollection=International%20Business&module=MostEmailed&version=Full®ion=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article)
The Borowitz Report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/study-fear-ebola-highest-among-people-pay-attention-math-science-classes?intcid=mod-most-popular)
MINNEAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report)—A new study, by the University of Minnesota, indicates that fear of contracting the Ebola virus is highest among Americans who did not pay attention during math and science classes.
According to the study, those whose minds were elsewhere while being taught certain concepts, like what a virus is and numbers, are at a significantly greater risk of being afraid of catching Ebola than people who were paying even scant attention.
Interviews conducted with people who spent math and science classes focussing on what they would be having for dinner or what the student in front of them was wearing revealed the difficulty they are currently having grasping basic facts about Ebola.
For example, when a participant of the study was told that he had a one-in-thirteen-million chance of contracting the virus, his response was, "Whoa. Thirteen million is a really big number. That is totally scary."
Davis Logsdon, who conducted the study for the University of Minnesota, puts the number of Americans who did not pay attention during math and science classes at seventy-two per cent, but adds, "I seriously doubt most people will know what that means."
A very interesting take on Ebola - and, more to the point, the flu (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/article/20141025024804-325275276-er-doctor-what-scares-me-even-more-than-ebola)
Reminds me. Must get the oul jab.
My Chartered Institute have emailed me wondering if I would like to volunteer and go out to West Africa in order to help and try to combat the spread of the disease!
Why has it become so prevalent or is it because it is more reported now? Always heard how nasty it was {horror stories of dissolving from the inside out, incurable etc.) but it always seemed to be isolated cases.
We'll get ebola sorted. I wish we could say the same about ignorance.
LOUISVILLE, Ky., Nov 3 (Reuters) - A teacher at a Louisville, Kentucky, Catholic school has resigned rather than take paid leave after parents raised concerns about her trip to Kenya, half a continent away from the Ebola epidemic in western Africa, WDRB Channel 41 TV reported.
Susan Sherman, a religious education teacher who is also a registered nurse, was recently on a mission in Kenya in eastern Africa. When she returned, St. Margaret Mary school requested she take a precautionary 21-day leave and produce a health note from her doctor, according to a statement from the Archdiocese of Louisville.
Sherman, who taught religion to seventh- and eighth-graders, chose to resign instead, according to WDRB.
It was not immediately possible to reach Sherman for comment. Officials at St. Margaret Mary referred questions to the Archdiocese.
Cecelia Price, chief communications officer for the Archdiocese, said the decision to request the leave came from the school itself.
A handful of U.S. states have imposed mandatory quarantines on health workers returning from three Ebola-ravaged West African countries - Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone - while the federal government is wary of discouraging potential medical volunteers.
The most deadly outbreak of Ebola on record has killed 4,951 people, mostly in West Africa. (Editing by Fiona Ortiz and Eric Walsh)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/03/kentucky-teacher-resigns-ebola_n_6096824.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/03/kentucky-teacher-resigns-ebola_n_6096824.html)