Westminster Election 12th December 2019

[seafoid]

Tommy Robinson has endorsed the Tories.
John Major refuses to do so.

[magpie seanie]

Any rational person would see that there is a clear link between attacks on the labour party in relation to perceived anti Semitism and the moment that Jeremy Corbyn took power. The reality is that the billionaire media moguls and the Tory establishment are frightened of the thought of Corbyn getting into 10 Downing Street and began to embark on a relentless smear campaign against him as soon as he became Labour leader. The same media were slightly complacent before the last election and Labour's performance surprised a few people so they have ramped it up another level ahead of this election. Yet Labour's vote continues to hold up in the polls with a small increase in the most recent results.

There are plenty of people who still rely on newspapers to spoon feed them their news and set the agenda for them but equally social media has negated their influence somewhat in recent years and but for the fact that a lot more less powerful people are now able to get their opinion across, Corbyn would have been destroyed long ago.   

Absolutely.

[Kidder81]

Any rational person would see that there is a clear link between attacks on the labour party in relation to perceived anti Semitism and the moment that Jeremy Corbyn took power. The reality is that the billionaire media moguls and the Tory establishment are frightened of the thought of Corbyn getting into 10 Downing Street and began to embark on a relentless smear campaign against him as soon as he became Labour leader. The same media were slightly complacent before the last election and Labour's performance surprised a few people so they have ramped it up another level ahead of this election. Yet Labour's vote continues to hold up in the polls with a small increase in the most recent results.

There are plenty of people who still rely on newspapers to spoon feed them their news and set the agenda for them but equally social media has negated their influence somewhat in recent years and but for the fact that a lot more less powerful people are now able to get their opinion across, Corbyn would have been destroyed long ago.   

Absolutely.

So the attacks on Corbyn from within his own party, didn't almost an entire shadow cabinet refuse to serve under him, hasn't he made it almost impossible to be deposed due to changes in how the leadership contests are decided? Are they down to this right wing press conspiracy? Some of you clowns would need to take a look at what you are typing. By the way press readership has never been lower, and Seafoids beloved guardian has take their fair share of cuts at Corbyn so your arguments unsurprisingly don't stack up

[magpie seanie]

Any rational person would see that there is a clear link between attacks on the labour party in relation to perceived anti Semitism and the moment that Jeremy Corbyn took power. The reality is that the billionaire media moguls and the Tory establishment are frightened of the thought of Corbyn getting into 10 Downing Street and began to embark on a relentless smear campaign against him as soon as he became Labour leader. The same media were slightly complacent before the last election and Labour's performance surprised a few people so they have ramped it up another level ahead of this election. Yet Labour's vote continues to hold up in the polls with a small increase in the most recent results.

There are plenty of people who still rely on newspapers to spoon feed them their news and set the agenda for them but equally social media has negated their influence somewhat in recent years and but for the fact that a lot more less powerful people are now able to get their opinion across, Corbyn would have been destroyed long ago.   

Absolutely.

So the attacks on Corbyn from within his own party, didn't almost an entire shadow cabinet refuse to serve under him, hasn't he made it almost impossible to be deposed due to changes in how the leadership contests are decided? Are they down to this right wing press conspiracy? Some of you clowns would need to take a look at what you are typing. By the way press readership has never been lower, and Seafoids beloved guardian has take their fair share of cuts at Corbyn so your arguments unsurprisingly don't stack up

I'm afraid it's the 2+2 = 479 logic you're using that doesn't add up.

You know full well that the Blairites did everything they possibly could to get rid of Corbyn and joined in this scandalous smearing to suit their own ends. Anyone who believes for a second that Corbyn has a discriminatory cell in his being is just flat out completely wrong.

Oh - and no need for the name calling.

[Kidder81]

Any rational person would see that there is a clear link between attacks on the labour party in relation to perceived anti Semitism and the moment that Jeremy Corbyn took power. The reality is that the billionaire media moguls and the Tory establishment are frightened of the thought of Corbyn getting into 10 Downing Street and began to embark on a relentless smear campaign against him as soon as he became Labour leader. The same media were slightly complacent before the last election and Labour's performance surprised a few people so they have ramped it up another level ahead of this election. Yet Labour's vote continues to hold up in the polls with a small increase in the most recent results.

There are plenty of people who still rely on newspapers to spoon feed them their news and set the agenda for them but equally social media has negated their influence somewhat in recent years and but for the fact that a lot more less powerful people are now able to get their opinion across, Corbyn would have been destroyed long ago.   

Absolutely.

So the attacks on Corbyn from within his own party, didn't almost an entire shadow cabinet refuse to serve under him, hasn't he made it almost impossible to be deposed due to changes in how the leadership contests are decided? Are they down to this right wing press conspiracy? Some of you clowns would need to take a look at what you are typing. By the way press readership has never been lower, and Seafoids beloved guardian has take their fair share of cuts at Corbyn so your arguments unsurprisingly don't stack up

I'm afraid it's the 2+2 = 479 logic you're using that doesn't add up.

You know full well that the Blairites did everything they possibly could to get rid of Corbyn and joined in this scandalous smearing to suit their own ends. Anyone who believes for a second that Corbyn has a discriminatory cell in his being is just flat out completely wrong.

Oh - and no need for the name calling.

Yeah there is no evidence to the contrary about Corbyns love of all religions and faiths, dear god

[seafoid]

Any rational person would see that there is a clear link between attacks on the labour party in relation to perceived anti Semitism and the moment that Jeremy Corbyn took power. The reality is that the billionaire media moguls and the Tory establishment are frightened of the thought of Corbyn getting into 10 Downing Street and began to embark on a relentless smear campaign against him as soon as he became Labour leader. The same media were slightly complacent before the last election and Labour's performance surprised a few people so they have ramped it up another level ahead of this election. Yet Labour's vote continues to hold up in the polls with a small increase in the most recent results.

There are plenty of people who still rely on newspapers to spoon feed them their news and set the agenda for them but equally social media has negated their influence somewhat in recent years and but for the fact that a lot more less powerful people are now able to get their opinion across, Corbyn would have been destroyed long ago.   

Absolutely.

So the attacks on Corbyn from within his own party, didn't almost an entire shadow cabinet refuse to serve under him, hasn't he made it almost impossible to be deposed due to changes in how the leadership contests are decided? Are they down to this right wing press conspiracy? Some of you clowns would need to take a look at what you are typing. By the way press readership has never been lower, and Seafoids beloved guardian has take their fair share of cuts at Corbyn so your arguments unsurprisingly don't stack up

The Guardian went neoliberal a few years ago.
The anti-Semitism campaign is political. The Telegraph is driving it .

[seafoid]

The anti-Semitism campaign is a real "boy who cried wolf" situation to weaponise the concept to topple Corbyn.
If Labour were to win or even get a hung Parliament it would be a real kick in the nuts for Zionism.

[bennydorano]

Historian's will look back on this Election as one of the dirtiest ever, the treatment of Corbyn should be ringing alarm bells for anybody who believes we live in a democracy - with a free press.

If BJ was exposed to the rigours of a genuine free press the Tories wouldn't be in their current poll position. Dominic Cummins is playing a blinder for them (sc**bag and all that he is) - but the strategy is working - aided by the fact that little England doesn't give a shit how big of a charlatan BJ is, they want Brexit done and they fear Corbyn in power. Still don't see anything other than a Tory majority 30+ and possibly much worse.

[seafoid]

Last time the polling companies overestimate Tory support by 5% and got caught on election days. Polls are supposed to influence.

The Tories need to win about 40 Labour seats in Lancashire and hold on to seats in Surrey. It's quite ambitious.
It will probably come down to turnout and the NHS.

[Rossfan]

Seaf you need to take a break from this Brit Election.

[playwiththewind1st]

Thankfully we all get a break from it next Friday.

[yellowcard]

Corbyn won that leaders debate hands down tonight. Johnson full of the usual bluster about getting Brexit done but he is really poor on detail whilst I thought Corbyn performed admirably. What difference it makes is anyone's guess but if you'd just landed down from Mars and were asked who performed like a statesman then Boris would not be the one.

[Lar Naparka]

Last time the polling companies overestimate Tory support by 5% and got caught on election days. Polls are supposed to influence.

The Tories need to win about 40 Labour seats in Lancashire and hold on to seats in Surrey. It's quite ambitious.
It will probably come down to turnout and the NHS.

Are there 40 Labour seats in Lancashire?

[bennydorano]

Corbyn is the well meaning schoolmaster type, he debated well, very Marquis of Queensbury rules type debating, whereas BJ was all bluster and pre-planned soundbites but he probably landed more blows - he definitely has more natural charm and that matters a lot. I watched it with a sinking feeling that Labour are utterly doomed tbh.

[armaghniac]

Interesting increase in the electorate in all NI constituencies.