American Sports Thread

Started by magickingdom, October 28, 2007, 06:02:17 PM

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RogerMilla

have to fancy the colts really , mannings done it before and he wants to close in on brady.
they are a serious team. would love to see one of the other AFC teams take them out on the way though to leave it clear for the saints..

chargers looking very good alright , if the giants sneak in i expect them to do well in the playoffs, if the cowboys get in then i expect an early exit

Minder

The Eagles will win the Superbowl, you heard it here first.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

new devil

Giants for me...unreal in the 1st quarter tonight..hopefully starting to peak at the right time like 2 years ago  ;)

sammymaguire

DRIVE THAT BALL ON!!

ballinaman

#2779
Colts V Eagles superbowl for me. Injuries going to have to catch up on San Diego sometime sadly!!
AFC Championship game Colts V Chargers
NFC Championship game Eagles V Packers

thejuice

Dont forget the Steelers. They haven't gone away you know!

Would like to see a Bengals - Saints Superbowl. To be honest I'm finding it hard to make a prediction. Every team has shown some vulnerability. And in the post-season sometimes form just goes out the window.
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

GalwayBayBoy

Interesting story in Sports Illlustrated this month.

QuoteFormer NFL star Dave Pear is sorry he ever played football

Dave Pear has a message for you.

"Don't let your kids play football," he says. "Never."

It is an odd thing, hearing these sort of words from a man like David Louis Pear, University of Washington standout, Pro Bowl defensive lineman for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Super Bowl champion with the Oakland Raiders. His five-year NFL career was one thousands of high school and college athletes would envy -- charging out of a darkened stadium tunnel, 70,000 fans screaming for you, loving you, praising you, idolizing you.

"You wanna know the truth?" says Pear.

The question lingers -- the 56-year-old ex-athlete preparing to unload one more skull-splitting hit.

"I wish I never played football. I wish that more than anything. Every single day, I want to take back those years of my life ..."

The words are not subtle. They spit from Pear's mouth, with a blistering contempt normally reserved for drunk drivers. We are speaking via phone. I am in New York, sipping a hot chocolate, leaning back in a chair. My two young children are asleep. A Pretenders song, "2000 Miles," plays in the background. No worries, no complexities. Pear is sitting at his home in Seattle. His neck hurts. His hips hurt. His knees hurt. His feet hurt. When he wakes up in the morning, pain shoots through his body. When he goes to sleep at night, pain shoots through his body. What does Pear do to stay active?

"My life is simple," he says. "It's hard to get out of bed, but eventually I do. I try and do a little walking on the treadmill. I take naps. I go to physical therapy once per week. I read my Bible."

He is, in basic terms, a train wreck -- a football-inflicted train wreck. Pear walks with a cane and, often, simply doesn't walk at all. He suffers from vertigo and memory loss. Over the past 18 years, he has undergone eight surgeries, beginning with a Posterior Cervical Laminectomy on his neck in 1981, and including disc removal and rod fusion in his back (1987), arthroplasty in his left hip (2008) and, earlier this year, four screws removed from his lower back. Though he chalks up his physical ailments to snap after snap of punishment, he pinpoints the biggest problems back to 1979 and '80, his final two NFL seasons. While playing for Oakland, Pear suffered a herniated disc in his neck that never improved. Despite the unbearable agony, he says the Raiders urged him to keep playing.

Be a man! Be tough! "Those last two years in Oakland were very, very difficult times," he says. "I was in pain 24 hours per day, and my employers failed to acknowledge my injury. Sure, I won a Super Bowl ring. But was it worth giving up my health for a piece of jewelry? No way. Those diamonds have lost their luster."

Throughout North America, many of Pear's retired football brethren hear his words and scream, Amen! Conrad Dobler, the legendary Cardinals offensive lineman, is about to go through his 32nd knee surgery. Wally Chambers, the Chicago Bears' three-time Pro Bowl defensive end, spends much of his time in a wheelchair. Earl Campbell, the powder blue bowling ball, struggles to walk and underwent surgery to remove three large bone spurs. The list is both heartbreaking and never-ending -- one NFL player after another after another, debilitated either mentally, physically, or both. I'm currently working on a book that has led me to interview more than 150 former players. I'd say 60 percent experience blistering pain from a sport they last played two decades ago.

"And the NFL," Pear says, "doesn't care."

Hence, he is fighting back. Two years ago, Pear started a blog, davepear.com, with the intent of supporting hobbled NFL veterans and calling out the league's laughable disability policy. Pear says he first applied for disability benefits in 1983, and was denied. He applied again in 1995, under a new provision that stated players would be compensated should they properly prove their injuries were permanently debilitating. A league-appointed physician examined Pear and filed a report stating that a man who once bench pressed 500 pounds could no longer sit, stand or bend for prolonged time periods.

To Pear's shock and dismay, benefits were again denied.

Finally, in 2009, Pear's request was accepted, and he now receives a whopping $40,000 annually. "Am I financially stable?" he asks with a laugh. "Let's put it this way. By the time I was 27 I had two children and medical bills that would reach $500,000. I can't work, my wife, Heidi, has had to hold two and sometimes three different jobs at the same time. And why? Because the NFL hasn't allowed me and my family to receiver proper benefits."

Pear pauses. He worries that he sounds like a typical whiner -- some ex-jock who didn't appreciate making it big. "This isn't even about me," he says. "It really isn't. There are guys so much worse off than me, it's criminal. We dreamed our whole lives to play professional football, and our dreams came true. And then they turn into nightmares."

Pear is blunt, like a rusty dental knife. He considered Gene Upshaw, the former NFL Players Association executive director, to be a criminal. "He was Ken Lay," he says of the deceased Enron CEO. "Same thing -- took all the veterans he supposedly represented for a ride." He holds out hope that Upshaw's replacement, DeMaurice Smith, might make things right. "I'm keeping an open mind," he says. "I hope Mr. Smith looks at the retired players and sees the wreckage.

"We need help," he says.

A long, painful sigh.

"We need help."



GalwayBayBoy

#2782
Handy page for you to put in your expected results and it organises the play-offs for you.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=currentstandings

I've got the Colts and Chargers getting byes in the AFC with the Steelers @ Patriots and the Ravens @ Bengals in the wild card games.

In the NFC the Saints and Vikings get byes with the Packers @ Cardinals and the Eagles @ Cowboys in the wild card games.

The Iceman

Eagles will never win the Superbowl with a black QB.  I'm not being racist but McNabb and other Black QB's play a different game than a Brady or a Manning.  It gets them so far but doesn't take them over the finish line.
I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

Capt Pat

A bit prejudiced against McNabb there. He is not that type of black quarterback imho. I think they won't win it because they are short a few players with Westbrook injured all the time and other injuries on defense and they are still short 1 more good wide receiver.

I am a Vikings fan and will give them a mention for the superbowl. They have stunk the place up in 2 of the last 3 games, but I don't think either game was reprasentative of their true form. Their form against the Bengals in the game in between is their true level imho. I just don't see the Saints getting to the superbowl and think the main threat to the Vikings might be the hot and cold Cardinals who can play like 2 different teams from one game to the next or even one half to the next.

The Colts look the best in the AFC, but they did lose to the Chargers last year in the playoffs. If not the Colts i think that if the Patriots or Steelers get to the post season they will be a different animal to what they been in the  regular season.

Vikings v Colts with the Vikings winning 34  points to 31 with a Longwell field goal with 5 seconds left.

heganboy

Quote from: The Iceman on December 22, 2009, 04:54:11 PM
I'm not being racist but McNabb and other Black QB's play a different game than a Brady or a Manning.

that does sound quite prejudiced, ask Doug Williams
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

ONeill

Chargers very impressive tonight.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

ballinaman

Quote from: ONeill on December 26, 2009, 03:02:22 AM
Chargers very impressive tonight.
Ya, it was good to see alright, aided by the Titans beating themselves with the turnovers and penalties it has to be said though. Great to have the number 2 seed nailed, 2 weeks rest will be useful!

gallsman

Quote from: ballinaman on December 26, 2009, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 26, 2009, 03:02:22 AM
Chargers very impressive tonight.
Ya, it was good to see alright, aided by the Titans beating themselves with the turnovers and penalties it has to be said though. Great to have the number 2 seed nailed, 2 weeks rest will be useful!

Johnson still managed to pick up 142! Another 128 to the 200 mark.

Minder

#2789
Quote from: gallsman on December 26, 2009, 01:26:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 26, 2009, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 26, 2009, 03:02:22 AM
Chargers very impressive tonight.
Ya, it was good to see alright, aided by the Titans beating themselves with the turnovers and penalties it has to be said though. Great to have the number 2 seed nailed, 2 weeks rest will be useful!

QuoteJohnson still managed to pick up 142! Another 128 to the 200 mark.


240 ish to break Dickersons single season record. His average of 6+ yds per carry is unbelievable. He has the fastest 40 yd time on record at the rookie combine
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"