Brexit.

[GJL]

Be some craic if the EU comeback now and say they won't offer an extension past 31st. UK would have no choice then but sign up for the deal now that they have agreed it in principle.

[mouview]

Keep fighting, keep putting it off for as long as you can. Maybe even take your chances at this stage on a GE. Somethings could change, anything could happen yet.

[Milltown Row2]

Boris in the ditch yet?

[weareros]

I'd say he just needs a month  extension at this stage and the deal is done. Out by Christmas will be the new refrain. Labour will be portrayed as the chlorinated Turkeys and  will then get destroyed in the GE.

[mouview]

Surely, as per Benn Act, he has to accept a 3-month extension if no deal agreed by October 31st?

[omaghjoe]

Labour need to drag brexit into a GE

[weareros]

Surely, as per Benn Act, he has to accept a 3-month extension if no deal agreed by October 31st?

The length of extension offered is determined by the EU, not by the House of Commons. The EU could even say, no, but that is doubtful, as they need an orderly Brexit.

[seafoid]

Surely, as per Benn Act, he has to accept a 3-month extension if no deal agreed by October 31st?

The length of extension offered is determined by the EU, not by the House of Commons. The EU could even say, no, but that is doubtful, as they need an orderly Brexit.

I think orderly Brexit is an oxymoron.
Just look at NI today. 15 to 60 quid for every batch of NI exports to GB. Loyalists are going nuts. 
Brexit is pure chaos.

[moysider]

Labour need to drag brexit into a GE

Which is exactly what Boris Johnson wants. He gets a working majority (with the support of Brexit MPs in a pact) and will kick the 'deal' to touch and go for a hard total Brexit. He will get the support of the DUPs that survive the GE in the North as well because they will get the hard border that they crave. Looks to me like a well- set trap. Labour eventually will have to agree to an election.

[omaghjoe]

Labour need to drag brexit into a GE

Which is exactly what Boris Johnson wants. He gets a working majority (with the support of Brexit MPs in a pact) and will kick the 'deal' to touch and go for a hard total Brexit. He will get the support of the DUPs that survive the GE in the North as well because they will get the hard border that they crave. Looks to me like a well- set trap. Labour eventually will have to agree to an election.

Possibly but I think thats highly unlikely
At the end of the day BJ doesnt even want Brexit in his heart of hearts he just want to be PM.
If he gets a deal he will have a healthy majority and he will stick with it at this point.

[yellowcard]

Labour need to drag brexit into a GE

Which is exactly what Boris Johnson wants. He gets a working majority (with the support of Brexit MPs in a pact) and will kick the 'deal' to touch and go for a hard total Brexit. He will get the support of the DUPs that survive the GE in the North as well because they will get the hard border that they crave. Looks to me like a well- set trap. Labour eventually will have to agree to an election.

You're correct in that Johnson wants a general election to establish a majority government, it has been his modus operandi from the get go. However, the DUP will no longer be relevant after the next election barring another quirk of fate with the numbers. If the opposition granted him an election (which I doubt they will) I think he will use this to try and get his deal from last week ratified. The downside of an election for the Tories will be their annihilation in Scotland and the potential for the next government to grant a second independence referendum after Brexit is done.

[moysider]

Labour need to drag brexit into a GE

Which is exactly what Boris Johnson wants. He gets a working majority (with the support of Brexit MPs in a pact) and will kick the 'deal' to touch and go for a hard total Brexit. He will get the support of the DUPs that survive the GE in the North as well because they will get the hard border that they crave. Looks to me like a well- set trap. Labour eventually will have to agree to an election.

You're correct in that Johnson wants a general election to establish a majority government, it has been his modus operandi from the get go. However, the DUP will no longer be relevant after the next election barring another quirk of fate with the numbers. If the opposition granted him an election (which I doubt they will) I think he will use this to try and get his deal from last week ratified. The downside of an election for the Tories will be their annihilation in Scotland and the potential for the next government to grant a second independence referendum after Brexit is done.

I dunno. A Boris majority after GE ( regardless of where the majority comes from) means that the deal is dead and buried. It's a clean slate and I suspect that it will be a no deal Brexit. A second referendum might happen with Scotland but the DUP will be on the pig's back. A hard border and loads of angst that they want so badly.

[balladmaker]

Labour need to drag brexit into a GE

Which is exactly what Boris Johnson wants. He gets a working majority (with the support of Brexit MPs in a pact) and will kick the 'deal' to touch and go for a hard total Brexit. He will get the support of the DUPs that survive the GE in the North as well because they will get the hard border that they crave. Looks to me like a well- set trap. Labour eventually will have to agree to an election.

You're correct in that Johnson wants a general election to establish a majority government, it has been his modus operandi from the get go. However, the DUP will no longer be relevant after the next election barring another quirk of fate with the numbers. If the opposition granted him an election (which I doubt they will) I think he will use this to try and get his deal from last week ratified. The downside of an election for the Tories will be their annihilation in Scotland and the potential for the next government to grant a second independence referendum after Brexit is done.

I dunno. A Boris majority after GE ( regardless of where the majority comes from) means that the deal is dead and buried. It's a clean slate and I suspect that it will be a no deal Brexit. A second referendum might happen with Scotland but the DUP will be on the pig's back. A hard border and loads of angst that they want so badly.

A hard border is the direct path to a winnable border poll within the next decade.

[Eamonnca1]

You're correct in that Johnson wants a general election to establish a majority government, it has been his modus operandi from the get go. However, the DUP will no longer be relevant after the next election barring another quirk of fate with the numbers. If the opposition granted him an election (which I doubt they will) I think he will use this to try and get his deal from last week ratified. The downside of an election for the Tories will be their annihilation in Scotland and the potential for the next government to grant a second independence referendum after Brexit is done.

I wouldn't count on that. The cash-for-ash scandal wasn't enough to finish Arlene and bring about a UUP renaissance. What makes you think the Brexit debacle will be any different? All the DUP have to do is wave the orange fleg and berate the Shinners hard enough that they'll come back with as many MPs as before, and probably even more.

[screenexile]

You're correct in that Johnson wants a general election to establish a majority government, it has been his modus operandi from the get go. However, the DUP will no longer be relevant after the next election barring another quirk of fate with the numbers. If the opposition granted him an election (which I doubt they will) I think he will use this to try and get his deal from last week ratified. The downside of an election for the Tories will be their annihilation in Scotland and the potential for the next government to grant a second independence referendum after Brexit is done.

I wouldn't count on that. The cash-for-ash scandal wasn't enough to finish Arlene and bring about a UUP renaissance. What makes you think the Brexit debacle will be any different? All the DUP have to do is wave the orange fleg and berate the Shinners hard enough that they'll come back with as many MPs as before, and probably even more.

Fingers crossed Arlene gets nailed when the report comes out RHI isn't over yet!!

As for the Loyalists it's laughable. Apparently when us remainers called them stupid and said they didn't know what they voted for we were just part of the sneering liberal elite and we were trying to deny their sovereignty... f**k them they deserve everything they get!!

They gambled that they could get a hard border in Ireland and it backfired spectacularly on them.

As a matter of interest who is this Loyalist Civil unrest going to be aimed at?? It's not the Irish Govts fault the UK voted out... it's not the Nationalist/Remainers fault... they voted to leave so they can hardly take it out on themselves.

They'll have to mount a campaign against the British Govt on the mainland... They'll need to be sure they have the correct export papers when they get to Holyhead though!!!