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Hope the Dubs win, like to see McCarthy get number 9!

See, that's the perennial Mayo problem right there! Hoping the Dubs win FFS! 

That's what happens when you pick lads from another County for your team.

Isn't there a  Kerry man playing for Roscommon?

Roscommon parents now living back among us and playing for Éire Óg.
Different situation than 125 years of it.

His mother is from Moyvane, Co. Kerry. She is living in Listowel. Doubt very much if Conor Cox is living in Roscommon either.

Both our midfielders got the better of Barry and oconnor on the kick outs.
Midfield is definitely somewhere we have an advantage on for tomorrow. Half back line as well, but need to contain paudie Clifford. I think our hf line should win that battle as well. If we dominate that middle 8 it will go a long way to nullifying the Kerry forward threat.

Look, best of luck to Derry but that is an amazing analysis. If that were the case Derry will win pulling up. Dermot O'Connor has the potential to be one of the best if not the best midfielder in the country, he has it all.  At 24, finally that seems to be coming to fruition. Gavin White is the best wing back in the country. Paudie Clifford is the Kerry play maker supreme, wearing #13 but will be everywhere. Jason Foley V Shane McGuigan is huge, Foley hasn't been beaten all year, even when Kerry were playing badly. If Derry come out on top in all those 4 areas they will be well on the way to victory. Kerry always had difficulties breaking down systems, tomorrow may be no different. Their fast accurate kick passing could be the key to unlocking it. The drier the sod the better in order for that to work. Like today, I expect the stronger bench to get their team over the line.

It actually Diarmuid not Dermot O'Connor   "Diarmuid " is new Michael O'Connell

Of course Buzz, I should have checked the spelling, I have been watching him since he was a garsun. Maybe the new Micko but not the new Jacko

Both our midfielders got the better of Barry and oconnor on the kick outs.
Midfield is definitely somewhere we have an advantage on for tomorrow. Half back line as well, but need to contain paudie Clifford. I think our hf line should win that battle as well. If we dominate that middle 8 it will go a long way to nullifying the Kerry forward threat.

Look, best of luck to Derry but that is an amazing analysis. If that were the case Derry will win pulling up. Dermot O'Connor has the potential to be one of the best if not the best midfielder in the country, he has it all.  At 24, finally that seems to be coming to fruition. Gavin White is the best wing back in the country. Paudie Clifford is the Kerry play maker supreme, wearing #13 but will be everywhere. Jason Foley V Shane McGuigan is huge, Foley hasn't been beaten all year, even when Kerry were playing badly. If Derry come out on top in all those 4 areas they will be well on the way to victory. Kerry always had difficulties breaking down systems, tomorrow may be no different. Their fast accurate kick passing could be the key to unlocking it. The drier the sod the better in order for that to work. Like today, I expect the stronger bench to get their team over the line.

["We're approaching it in a very serious way in the sense that we're expecting a huge battle here, because all the evidence would point to the fact that Derry are better than Tyrone," O'Connor said."They've proved that by winning Ulster the last couple of years. They've also beaten Tyrone pretty comprehensively the last two times they met them."They're on another level to Tyrone; therefore, we're expecting a huge battle.]

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/2023/07/11/news/derry_on_a_different_level_to_tyrone_says_kerry_boss_jack_o_connor_ahead_of_semi-final_showdown-3424905/

"We're approaching it in a very serious way in the sense that we're expecting a huge battle here, because all the evidence would point to the fact that Derry are better than Tyrone," O'Connor said.

"They've proved that by winning Ulster the last couple of years. They've also beaten Tyrone pretty comprehensively the last two times they met them.

"They're on another level to Tyrone; therefore, we're expecting a huge battle.

Jack with his usual par for the course swipe at Tyrone. Bitter bitter man. These comments, whether they are true or false, and perhaps they are a correct assessment, are hardly standard discourse from a county manager. How often do you see the previous opponent actually named out loud as being of a weaker standard, would the standard cliche'd "were going up a gear now" not have sufficed. I nearly hope Derry bate them.

I hope Derry hammer them into the ground. If anything it might help them find a new county to be bitter over and help them get over a Tyrone obsession that is going 20 years strong now.

Kerry people have zero obsession with Tyrone but most Tyrone supporters want to believe that they do. What Jack said is 100% on the money, no bitterness involved whatsoever. In fact no matter what he says bad losers and bad winners will find a angle to attack him. That goes for any Kerry person in sports media, they are either cute hoors or arrogant. It is easy to know who is bitter, your two sentences are full of it.

Bollox, I know a lot of Kerry people and there's no question but they've got a fear/respect for Tyrone that's unmatched.
I'd take it as a compliment.

Fear and respect for Tyrone, what has that to do with obsession and bitterness, seems to be the opposite to me? Kerry respect all opposition, fear has no place in sport. Fear of what, fear of losing?  Keep fear out of our lives please, the main reason that the world is in the state it is in. We got plenty of that for the last three and a half years.  Are you fearful of Kerry on Sunday?

The agony and ecstasy is all part of sport, the agony makes the ecstasy greater. If Kerry were winning all the time I would give up following the sport. Win or lose, shake the opponents hand and move on. It is just sport at the end of the day, far greater fish to fry.

["We're approaching it in a very serious way in the sense that we're expecting a huge battle here, because all the evidence would point to the fact that Derry are better than Tyrone," O'Connor said."They've proved that by winning Ulster the last couple of years. They've also beaten Tyrone pretty comprehensively the last two times they met them."They're on another level to Tyrone; therefore, we're expecting a huge battle.]

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/2023/07/11/news/derry_on_a_different_level_to_tyrone_says_kerry_boss_jack_o_connor_ahead_of_semi-final_showdown-3424905/

"We're approaching it in a very serious way in the sense that we're expecting a huge battle here, because all the evidence would point to the fact that Derry are better than Tyrone," O'Connor said.

"They've proved that by winning Ulster the last couple of years. They've also beaten Tyrone pretty comprehensively the last two times they met them.

"They're on another level to Tyrone; therefore, we're expecting a huge battle.

Jack with his usual par for the course swipe at Tyrone. Bitter bitter man. These comments, whether they are true or false, and perhaps they are a correct assessment, are hardly standard discourse from a county manager. How often do you see the previous opponent actually named out loud as being of a weaker standard, would the standard cliche'd "were going up a gear now" not have sufficed. I nearly hope Derry bate them.

I hope Derry hammer them into the ground. If anything it might help them find a new county to be bitter over and help them get over a Tyrone obsession that is going 20 years strong now.

Kerry people have zero obsession with Tyrone but most Tyrone supporters want to believe that they do. What Jack said is 100% on the money, no bitterness involved whatsoever. In fact no matter what he says bad losers and bad winners will find a angle to attack him. That goes for any Kerry person in sports media, they are either cute hoors or arrogant. It is easy to know who is bitter, your two sentences are full of it.

[Clifford pulled up with cramp, which wasn't really fortuitous, it was most likely him not being well enough conditioned for such an intense game.]

Kerry have always been heavy favourites any time they have played Tyrone and pretty much any team they play except for some of the time against the all conquering Dublin team. Tyrone and Kerry both got beaten well by Dublin in finals. The match between them was tight in 2019 and Tyrone definitely left that one behind them, though Kerry had beaten Tyrone well in the league that year.

Tyrone were underdogs in the semi and final. They were missing 5 players for the Ulster final and had to deal with difficult circumstances, to put it mildy, for the semi with several players still not right. Tyrone should have wrapped up things in normal time against Kerry and indeed in the first half of extra time, while also getting two black cards when Kerry should have also had similar. Clifford pulled up with cramp, which wasn't really fortuitous, it was most likely him not being well enough conditioned for such an intense game.

Tyrone beat Cavan (the Ulster champions), Donegal, Monaghan, Kerry and Mayo to win the All-Ireland. So three Division 1 teams and Mayo who got promoted and were in the final the previous year. Kerry beat Cork (Munster champions), Limerick, Mayo, Dublin and Galway in 2022. That's two Division 1 teams, one who got relegated and one promoted division 2 team.

Why was Tyrone's win an aligning of the stars and not Kerry's?

FYI David Clifford did not suffer from cramp that day. He went off injured with a dead leg as a result of a knee to the thigh by Niall Morgan. He labored badly for at least the last 10 minutes of regulation. Conditioning was not the issue as you state.

Thats an amazing insight into your thought patterns but Im not letting you create that narrative in this case.  Do you believe Morgan shouldnt have went for the ball and let what was a wayward pass be won uncontested by Clifford. Even if that was the case why was he even stretching out cramp on the sideline by the way...
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Not trying to create any narrative. I'm going by video evidence along with word from within the Kerry camp. Watch when the injury occurred here at the 1hr 19 minute mark. https://o-trim.co/yoGovq

Clifford had an ice pack on his thigh during extra time, clearly seen on television. Have a look at the recent Sunday Game, in the lead up to the Kerry/Tyrone highlights, the ice pack on his thigh is also shown. Just want to debunk this cramp myth as that is all it is, a myth. Absolutely, Niall Morgan did what he had to do in competing for the ball. It was 100% an accident. I'm not in one way trying to take away from Tyrone's AI win, it was fully deserved. All Ireland wins are hard earned, I hate it when counties are not given full credit. You seem to be a very decent poster so it came as a surprise that you of all people are trying to indicate that I'm attempting to create a narrative. Just as in all walks of life I only stick to the facts.

There is another Tyrone poster that I really take issue with though. He is constantly trying to create the narrative that Kerry are bad losers and even worse winners. This even seeps down to club level where he also made some crazy remarks on this year's junior final. County supporters who are used to winning and losing take it in their stride and that goes for every Kerry supporter I know. His hatred for Kerry knows no bounds. It's doubtful if he even knows one Kerry person. It is another myth that Kerry never gave Tyrone credit for their victories in '03, '05 and '08. This was all media driven. They had some of the greatest players to ever play the game. Peter Canavan may well be the best ever. There is no way that Dublin would have won 6 in a row, nor anywhere close, if that Tyrone team arrived at the same time.

The win on Saturday was special because of the respect we have for Tyrone. Sport is a lot about rivalry and should have nothing to do with hatred. If there is hatred in your heart keep away and find another hobby. Be the first to congratulate the winner and console the loser. A year is a very short time in sport, cherish the wins and don't get too down about the defeats. Tyrone will be back, Darragh and Ruairi Canavan as special players and Tyrone are recent U20 winners .

[Clifford pulled up with cramp, which wasn't really fortuitous, it was most likely him not being well enough conditioned for such an intense game.]

Kerry have always been heavy favourites any time they have played Tyrone and pretty much any team they play except for some of the time against the all conquering Dublin team. Tyrone and Kerry both got beaten well by Dublin in finals. The match between them was tight in 2019 and Tyrone definitely left that one behind them, though Kerry had beaten Tyrone well in the league that year.

Tyrone were underdogs in the semi and final. They were missing 5 players for the Ulster final and had to deal with difficult circumstances, to put it mildy, for the semi with several players still not right. Tyrone should have wrapped up things in normal time against Kerry and indeed in the first half of extra time, while also getting two black cards when Kerry should have also had similar. Clifford pulled up with cramp, which wasn't really fortuitous, it was most likely him not being well enough conditioned for such an intense game.

Tyrone beat Cavan (the Ulster champions), Donegal, Monaghan, Kerry and Mayo to win the All-Ireland. So three Division 1 teams and Mayo who got promoted and were in the final the previous year. Kerry beat Cork (Munster champions), Limerick, Mayo, Dublin and Galway in 2022. That's two Division 1 teams, one who got relegated and one promoted division 2 team.

Why was Tyrone's win an aligning of the stars and not Kerry's?
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FYI David Clifford did not suffer from cramp that day. He went off injured with a dead leg as a result of a knee to the thigh by Niall Morgan. He labored badly for at least the last 10 minutes of regulation. Conditioning was not the issue as you state.

Just a little encore that I feel is necessary. A couple of quotations that will hopefully save lives as at this stage, three years on we all know of somebody who's life was suddenly cut far too short because of the jab.

"Helmets prevent skull fractures. Tinfoil hats prevent myocarditis"

I love my Tinfoil hat, so enlightening and empowering.

"Google is the Enemy"

Adios Amigos, now where is that Turmeric?

[There are reasons why the vaccine moved so quickly. It doesn't mean anything underhand happened.]

There are reasons why the vaccine moved so quickly. It doesn't mean anything underhand happened. (Cut and pasted).

The COVID-19 vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna were created with a method that has been in development for years, so the companies could start the vaccine development process early in the pandemic.

China isolated and shared genetic information about COVID-19 promptly, so scientists could start working on vaccines.
The vaccine developers didn't skip any testing steps, but conducted some of the steps on an overlapping schedule to gather data faster.

Vaccine projects had plenty of resources, as governments invested in research and/or paid for vaccines in advance.

Some types of COVID-19 vaccines were created using messenger RNA (mRNA), which allows a faster approach than the traditional way that vaccines are made.

Social media helped companies find and engage study volunteers, and many were willing to help with COVID-19 vaccine research.

Because COVID-19 is so contagious and widespread, it did not take long to see if the vaccine worked for the study volunteers who were vaccinated.

Companies began making vaccines early in the process — even before FDA authorization — so some supplies were ready when authorization occurred.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-myth-versus-fact

There is a lot of truth here, and an uncomfortable truth for the industry is that the COVID pandemic and the swift approval of the vaccine shone a light on areas of waste and dead space within the pharmaceutical industry. It exists primarily to underscore the Safety Assessment of pharmaceuticals - even if we rehash the same development pathway for drugs of very similar classes. It happens, because of liability.

Over time we have learned so much about almost all drug modalities. So much so that we could shorten the development time (and money) for a drug (Drug B) that is similar to an already approved product (Drug A) that you see on the TV. Upside, quicker development, drug gets to patient faster, and the drug development is cheaper. Downside is that we are relying on predictive modeling behaviour and assuming that what we understand about Drug A applies unilaterally and without exception to Drug B. Considering that even fully developed drugs that have undergone the full rigorous non clinical and clinical safety testing have thrown up some nasty surprises for patients post commercialization, it is a risk to assume drug similarities and therefore extrapolate data from one drug to another (no matter how similar in structure and mechanism). 

COVID gave the green light for accepting what we know about a modality (mRNA) and taking that relatively calculated risk to extrapolate that data across the vaccinations and expedite the approval process. In the absence of a global pandemic this would (in my opinion) never have happened.

Another example of FDA "fast tracking" is for a disease so serious that the patient will die in any case, therefore there is nothing to lose when giving them a novel, not yet approved therapy in an attempt to save their life. FDA compassionate use is an additional expedited protocol

While you both are lumped together here, please lead me to the document where "China isolated and shared genetic information about COVID-19 promptly". I have yet to see such a thing. I would be forever grateful if one or both of you produced it. Please make sure the document followed the proper guidelines for isolation before submitting. Didn't Johns Hopkins partner with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to hosted Event 201 on October 18, 2019 in NY and another similar high-level pandemic exercise event recently?  So if John Hopkins says such a document exists without showing any evidence, it must be true. Still I would like to see it.

A compassionate FDA, I've heard it all now.

I've little interest in pursuing this debate with you as I can see a lost case when it's in front of me. And the rapidly approaching rabbit hole is something I'd prefer to avoid for both our sakes.

However on the highlighted bit. Have a google, there are any number of articles ( I'm sure even a few from sources you'd accept) that confirm what I said. If you've something to dispute these multiple sources then I'd be keen to hear it.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/china-releases-genetic-data-new-coronavirus-now-deadly

So that's the best you can do trueblue? Some scientific document that was, a bat mind you or was it a dog? I agree, no need to debate that nonsense. I'll love ye and leave ye guys, the very best of luck, stay healthy, stay safe.  May drop back in in a year or two, then again maybe not.

[There are reasons why the vaccine moved so quickly. It doesn't mean anything underhand happened.]

There are reasons why the vaccine moved so quickly. It doesn't mean anything underhand happened. (Cut and pasted).

The COVID-19 vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna were created with a method that has been in development for years, so the companies could start the vaccine development process early in the pandemic.

China isolated and shared genetic information about COVID-19 promptly, so scientists could start working on vaccines.
The vaccine developers didn't skip any testing steps, but conducted some of the steps on an overlapping schedule to gather data faster.

Vaccine projects had plenty of resources, as governments invested in research and/or paid for vaccines in advance.

Some types of COVID-19 vaccines were created using messenger RNA (mRNA), which allows a faster approach than the traditional way that vaccines are made.

Social media helped companies find and engage study volunteers, and many were willing to help with COVID-19 vaccine research.

Because COVID-19 is so contagious and widespread, it did not take long to see if the vaccine worked for the study volunteers who were vaccinated.

Companies began making vaccines early in the process — even before FDA authorization — so some supplies were ready when authorization occurred.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-myth-versus-fact

There is a lot of truth here, and an uncomfortable truth for the industry is that the COVID pandemic and the swift approval of the vaccine shone a light on areas of waste and dead space within the pharmaceutical industry. It exists primarily to underscore the Safety Assessment of pharmaceuticals - even if we rehash the same development pathway for drugs of very similar classes. It happens, because of liability.

Over time we have learned so much about almost all drug modalities. So much so that we could shorten the development time (and money) for a drug (Drug B) that is similar to an already approved product (Drug A) that you see on the TV. Upside, quicker development, drug gets to patient faster, and the drug development is cheaper. Downside is that we are relying on predictive modeling behaviour and assuming that what we understand about Drug A applies unilaterally and without exception to Drug B. Considering that even fully developed drugs that have undergone the full rigorous non clinical and clinical safety testing have thrown up some nasty surprises for patients post commercialization, it is a risk to assume drug similarities and therefore extrapolate data from one drug to another (no matter how similar in structure and mechanism). 

COVID gave the green light for accepting what we know about a modality (mRNA) and taking that relatively calculated risk to extrapolate that data across the vaccinations and expedite the approval process. In the absence of a global pandemic this would (in my opinion) never have happened.

Another example of FDA "fast tracking" is for a disease so serious that the patient will die in any case, therefore there is nothing to lose when giving them a novel, not yet approved therapy in an attempt to save their life. FDA compassionate use is an additional expedited protocol

While you both are lumped together here, please lead me to the document where "China isolated and shared genetic information about COVID-19 promptly".  I have yet to see such a thing. I would be forever grateful if one or both of you produced it. Please make sure the document followed the proper guidelines for isolation before submitting. Didn't Johns Hopkins partner with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to hosted Event 201 on October 18, 2019 in NY and another similar high-level pandemic exercise event recently?  So if John Hopkins says such a document exists without showing any evidence, it must be true. Still I would like to see it.

A compassionate FDA, I've heard it all now.

Umm, What? I am not discussing the origin or spread of the virus.

You have some strong space cadet vibes. Check your dosages.

Well I'm bringing it into the conversation. Unable to answer, not surprising. Then attack. "Check your dosages", said by a true drug pusher.

[THANKS]

Thanks for catching the spelling error.

It was not a spelling error per se, it's a pronunciation error which led to the spelling error. It shows the lack of knowledge of Turmeric and it's powerful benefits thus my reference to medical school. I have no problem with spelling errors, we all make them. your lack of knowledge is the only issue here.

Not quite sure what you're asking here (it's hard to pull the thread of your pointed questions from the overall buffoonery you are espousing. I have no professional basis for addressing prevention of any disease. I work within the life sciences industry supporting hundreds of companies focused on curing diseases. My lifestyle choices are my own.

You mentioned "Anyone who subscribes to the following notions is a crackpot and shouldn't be trusted with taking out the bins on a Monday, never mind advising people." "Medical Schools and Physicians do not learn or preach prevention being better than the cure".

I presume you went to some form of medical school as you are in that field. I was interested to know what you learned as regards prevention and indeed nutrition after reading your comment.  Correct me if I'm wrong, maybe you licked your "knowledge" off the floor.  If you did not go to medical school how do you know prevention is taught there?  My niece, a qualified MD, knows next to zero about nutrition, brilliant when discussing medical drugs though. Obviously you are in the same boat. You do not have to stick to your rigid professional stance unless you are incapable of doing so.

Again, I work within the industry not for any biotech company - touching many different sizes of pharma and biotech all focused on diseases and med device developments and moving advancements through the necessary testing phases to the commercial market. A process that takes about 8-10 years.  A process that has a wide mouth at the top end of the funnel and filters out the poorer compounds on the basis of efficacy, selectiveness, and a safety profile. The commonality among these companies is that they are all focused on increased quality of life for patients.

Again, you are totally omitting what the human body is craving for, proper nutrition. Your focus is on non synergistic drugs whether you realize it or not, which rarely if ever treats the cause, only the symptoms, leading to further drugs down the line.

I'll not make a deal about your own typo here, but every drug going back to Asprin have side effect potential. Everything you put in your body, including Vitamin C, D, and Turmeric have side effect potential. In Toxicology it is the dose that makes the poison, not necessarily the compound. This holds true for your supplements as well.

Please list the side effects of Vitamin C, D and Turmeric. Are we talking about a truck load here at once or what? With every drug, even at the recommended dosage, there is usually a side effect.  Your knowledge of supplements is as expected.

It's OK to admit that this is your personally held belief, and that you do not have an exhaustive body of evidence to stand behind this broad bush stroke.

Are you trying to tell me that an unhealthy lifestyle does not inevitably leads to illness, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc? Do you also not agree that most people when getting ill will turn to their MD for help instead of going the natural route? The convenience of a pill, the easy way out, you figure this is not one of the deciding factors? Do you realize that it takes a massive amount of will power for people to change their unhealthy ways. You are gone way too far down the rabbit hole.

Which of the hundreds of diseases that make up the overall term "Cancer" are you referring to? Cancer is a catch all term of a number of sub cancers, many of them treatable and curable now THANKS to advancements in medicine.

Pancreatic Cancer is the most difficult of all to cure, but it can happen meaning all cancers can be cured. Length of cancer is also an issue. Whether the patient first went through chemo and radiation is a major factor, their chances of survival is greatly reduced. A peaceful, non suffering ending may be the best to hope for. 

Great, cure stage 1 cancers and possibly some Stage 2. Those who survive will almost certainly be on several medications for the rest of their lives. Treatment usually runs at of cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars.  Zero quality of live. For each person who doesn't make it, 1M seems to be the average price tag and that could only be for one year of cancer treatment, here in the US anyway. Functional and Integrative Medicine on the other usually hand can run less than 10k, sometimes way less, with a far greater chance of survival. There are a number of factors that must align, please don't have me explain it to you, you have wasted enough of my time. Look up Functional Medicine, you will get the answers and possibly (extremely doubtful) open your rigid mind.

Pure nonsense on the whole to suggest that a cure for "Cancer" has been found and the fame and fortune who await the individuals who rid the human race of such a brutal scourge is being suppressed. That is possibly the most ludicrous of all your suggestions. There are many drugs that completely wipe out cancerous cells in the human body. The challenge is that they may well wipe out everything else and they are often incredibly potent and dangerous when they are not as selective on cancer cells and specific tissues as intended. There are some wonderful new therapies coming out every year in immunology and the pharmaceutical industry is gaining ground on specific cancers every year.

The sentence in bold: You said a mouthful there, in other words patients die from the "cure" as I have already mentioned and a terrible death at that. This is well know within the industry, why keep doing it? Not acceptable.

I'll give you one person to look up, Max Gerson. I can give you many more but why bother. Forget about going to Wikipedia, a punch of lies but I do expect you to settle for it. The Gerson Institute, founded by his daughter, curing patients of several diseases since 1978. There are even better locations in different parts of the world.

A new promising drug, a new trial, every cancer patient hears that one. Will it ever end? Since Nixon declared the war on cancer in 1971,  it has still remained right behind heart disease as the second cause of death with no end in sight.

[There are reasons why the vaccine moved so quickly. It doesn't mean anything underhand happened.]

There are reasons why the vaccine moved so quickly. It doesn't mean anything underhand happened. (Cut and pasted).

The COVID-19 vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna were created with a method that has been in development for years, so the companies could start the vaccine development process early in the pandemic.

China isolated and shared genetic information about COVID-19 promptly, so scientists could start working on vaccines.
The vaccine developers didn't skip any testing steps, but conducted some of the steps on an overlapping schedule to gather data faster.

Vaccine projects had plenty of resources, as governments invested in research and/or paid for vaccines in advance.

Some types of COVID-19 vaccines were created using messenger RNA (mRNA), which allows a faster approach than the traditional way that vaccines are made.

Social media helped companies find and engage study volunteers, and many were willing to help with COVID-19 vaccine research.

Because COVID-19 is so contagious and widespread, it did not take long to see if the vaccine worked for the study volunteers who were vaccinated.

Companies began making vaccines early in the process — even before FDA authorization — so some supplies were ready when authorization occurred.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-myth-versus-fact

There is a lot of truth here, and an uncomfortable truth for the industry is that the COVID pandemic and the swift approval of the vaccine shone a light on areas of waste and dead space within the pharmaceutical industry. It exists primarily to underscore the Safety Assessment of pharmaceuticals - even if we rehash the same development pathway for drugs of very similar classes. It happens, because of liability.

Over time we have learned so much about almost all drug modalities. So much so that we could shorten the development time (and money) for a drug (Drug B) that is similar to an already approved product (Drug A) that you see on the TV. Upside, quicker development, drug gets to patient faster, and the drug development is cheaper. Downside is that we are relying on predictive modeling behaviour and assuming that what we understand about Drug A applies unilaterally and without exception to Drug B. Considering that even fully developed drugs that have undergone the full rigorous non clinical and clinical safety testing have thrown up some nasty surprises for patients post commercialization, it is a risk to assume drug similarities and therefore extrapolate data from one drug to another (no matter how similar in structure and mechanism). 

COVID gave the green light for accepting what we know about a modality (mRNA) and taking that relatively calculated risk to extrapolate that data across the vaccinations and expedite the approval process. In the absence of a global pandemic this would (in my opinion) never have happened.

Another example of FDA "fast tracking" is for a disease so serious that the patient will die in any case, therefore there is nothing to lose when giving them a novel, not yet approved therapy in an attempt to save their life. FDA compassionate use is an additional expedited protocol

While you both are lumped together here, please lead me to the document where "China isolated and shared genetic information about COVID-19 promptly".  I have yet to see such a thing. I would be forever grateful if one or both of you produced it. Please make sure the document followed the proper guidelines for isolation before submitting. Didn't Johns Hopkins partner with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to hosted Event 201 on October 18, 2019 in NY and another similar high-level pandemic exercise event recently?  So if John Hopkins says such a document exists without showing any evidence, it must be true. Still I would like to see it.

A compassionate FDA, I've heard it all now.

Anyone who subscribes to the following notions is a crackpot and shouldn't be trusted with taking out the bins on a Monday, never mind advising people.

There is a cure for cancer, people are just sitting on it locked away in some vault that says Amgen/Pfizer/Lilly on it
If we all eat our vitamins and tumeric, there will be no sickness or ill health
Medical Schools and Physicians do not learn or preach prevention being better than the cure.

We have a world full of obese people not because of medicine or medical practices - but because of the globalization of the food industry, sugar industry, declining standards of what we are putting into our body from a dietary perspective and a decline of physical labor jobs.

Having spent 20 years in the life sciences and medical industries as a student, professional, and observer I find it personally distasteful at the broad stroke brush "big pharma" when discussing the industry. There are large pharmaceutical companies, yes. There have been disgusting abuses of power (Purdue and the opioids a shining example). However there are armies of small pharma and biotechs and daily I work with people who drive to their jobs thinking about patients, rare diseases, common diseases and how to improve the lives of patients across a spectrum of conditions that no amount of tumeric in the world will erase. Sickle Cell Anemia for example, Alzheimer's, Epilepsy. Endless efforts going into finding safe, effective therapeutics for the betterment of humanity.

Keep taking your drugs, you'll be grand. I must go "eat" some vitamins today. What is tumeric, never heard of it? It does explain a lot with regards to medical school though.

Nice to see that you are into prevention, my indoctrinated friend. You mentioned Alzheimer Disease. Please outline in detail your strategy for prevention. Feel free to add prevention methods for other diseases. Is prevention also part of your job capacity or is it just the "cure" you are focused on? True, physicians at times preach prevention (very limited) while writing a prescription, how wonderful. I have yet to hear of healthy people (or sick people) filling up a MD's waiting room to get advice on prevention. When it comes to prevention, I'm all ears, one can never learn enough.

Does "improve patients lives" only involve medical drugs or does the little biotech company you work for also advise on nutrition and exercise? if so explain and to what extent. Does the medical drugs you are researching have side effects? if so what percentage and please list some of those side effects. Are other drugs ever needed to "cure" those side effects?

Thanks for filling me in on what leads to obesity, a bad diet and lack of exercise, what a shocker, lol. True, no amount of vitamins or "tumeric" will overcome that.  Maybe I should have explained a little better. An unhealthy lifestyle inevitably leads to illness, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. Most go for the quick "fix" because they "trust the science" or are too lazy to do the hard grind. So begins the vicious circle of prescription drugs for life, in most cases never getting to the route cause of the problem or problems thus leading to other illnesses.

And yes, there is a cure for cancer and other "incurable diseases" which Big and Little Pharma have no interest in pursuing for billions if not trillions of reasons. Plenty funds also needed to pay those large fines and lobbyists, usually ex government employees. The cure is not locked away in some vault that says Amgen Horizon Therapeutics, Pfizer or Eli Lilly either.  It comes in the form of Functional and Integrative Medicine.  Rockefeller and Carnegie have plenty to answer for.

So sad, RIP Farrandeelin, sincere condolences to his family. Seemed like a true gent.

You'll be telling us using glasses is a big pharma con and if you'd only exercise your eyes more and eat more carrots you won't need them!!

You are getting real silly now. Indoctrination must be an awful thing, you are unable to see the wood from the trees. I got Radial Keratotomy done, one of the best decisions of my life when all friends and associates advised me not to. Too dangerous they said. Not surprisingly they all had good eyesight, lack of understanding played a part, also they had no idea what it's like to have -11 eye sight.  Being short sighted or long sighted is not an illness nor a vitamin or mineral deficiency..