Football qualifier route 2019

Started by Blowitupref, May 22, 2019, 01:45:27 PM

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Blowitupref

A open draw to take place this Monday the 27th of May

16 teams in round 1

Leitrim
Monaghan
Down
Derry
Antrim or Tyrone
Fermanagh or Donegal
Tipperary
Waterford
Offaly
Wexford
Louth or Dublin
Longford or Kildare
Carlow or Meath
Laois v Westmeath
London
Wicklow

Games to be played June 8th.


Round 2

Eight round 1 winners v the eight beaten provincial semi finalists (draw takes place June 10th)

Games to be played June 22nd


Round 3

Draw between the eight winners (draw takes place June 24th)

Games to be played June 29th

Round 4

Four beaten provincial finalists v the four round 4 winners (draw takes place July 1st)

Game to be played July 6th or 7th



- Every match in the qualifiers is a winner on the day. Extra time and a penalty competition if required.

- Draws are subject to repeat pairings 

- Div 3,4 teams will get home advantage in round 1, 2 and 3 if drawn against a Div 1 or 2 team.

- Round 4 games played in neutral venues

- Home venues shall be subject to approval by the CCCC and shall meet the criteria set down by the  national health and safety committee (brought in this year to make sure HQ aren't embarrassed by another Newbridge or no where scenario)
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Ball Hopper

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 22, 2019, 01:45:27 PM
A open draw to take place this Monday the 27th of May

16 teams in round 1

Leitrim
Monaghan
Down
Derry
Antrim or Tyrone
Fermanagh or Donegal
Tipperary
Waterford
Offaly
Wexford
Louth or Dublin
Longford or Kildare
Carlow or Meath
Laois v Westmeath
London
Wicklow

Games to be played June 8th.


Round 2

Eight round 1 winners v the eight beaten provincial finalists (draw takes place June 10th)

Games to be played June 22nd


Round 3

Draw between the eight winners (draw takes place June 24th)

Games to be played June 29th

Round 4

Four beaten provincial finalists v the four round 4 winners (draw takes place July 1st)

Game to be played July 6th or 7th



- Every match in the qualifiers is a winner on the day. Extra time and a penalty competition if required.

- Draws are subject to repeat pairings 

- Div 3,4 teams will get home advantage in round 1, 2 and 3 if drawn against a Div 1 or 2 team.

- Round 4 games played in neutral venues

- Home venues shall be subject to approval by the CCCC and shall meet the criteria set down by the  national health and safety committee (brought in this year to make sure HQ aren't embarrassed by another Newbridge or no where scenario)

Correction:

Round 2

Eight round 1 winners v the eight beaten provincial semi-finalists (draw takes place June 10th)

Games to be played June 22nd

dec

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 22, 2019, 01:45:27 PM
Extra time and a penalty competition if required.

Is this new this year?
Have there been any games before settled this way?

Blowitupref

Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 22, 2019, 02:29:58 PM

Correction:

Round 2

Eight round 1 winners v the eight beaten provincial semi-finalists (draw takes place June 10th)

Games to be played June 22nd

Well spotted.


Quote from: dec on May 22, 2019, 02:35:05 PM

Is this new this year?
Have there been any games before settled this way?

I think so. A few Connacht FBD games was settled that way back in January
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Ball Hopper

A big difference in the penalty shoot-out is what happens if level after 5 penalties taken by each team.  The GAA way will be to have the same 5 penalty takers take the sudden death penalties, although they can be in a different order.

Also, only the 5 penalty takers can be on the pitch from a team - all other players (including a sub keeper), managers, maor foirne, maor uisce, physios and so on must be in their team's sideline area.  I presume linesmen will be tasked with keeping them in place.  Will be interesting if a penalty taker starts to suffer from cramp and cannot receive attention.

I predict chaos and the local radio commentaries could be eventful as well.

dec

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 22, 2019, 02:44:51 PM


Quote from: dec on May 22, 2019, 02:35:05 PM

Is this new this year?
Have there been any games before settled this way?

I think so. A few Connacht FBD games was settled that way back in January

I think I would prefer a point shooting contest, maybe from 35-40m out.

Rossfan

That was the way last year but decided to switch to penalties this year.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

BennyCake

Penalty f**king shootout? That's ridiculous. There will be no penalty shootouts for an AI semi or final, you can be sure of that. No, it's a replay, cha-ching!

timmyot501

is it goals only in the penalty shoot-out??  If its 4-4 and team 1 miss can the last guy just tap it over the bar for the win??

Blowitupref

Quote from: BennyCake on May 22, 2019, 04:51:51 PM
Penalty f**king shootout? That's ridiculous. There will be no penalty shootouts for an AI semi or final, you can be sure of that. No, it's a replay, cha-ching!

AI final will go to replay if level after 70 mins. AI semi finals will have extra time and if level after that its a replay.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Rossfan

Quote from: timmyot501 on May 22, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
is it goals only in the penalty shoot-out??  If its 4-4 and team 1 miss can the last guy just tap it over the bar for the win??
No.
Goals only I believe.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Crete Boom

why not a 45 taking shout out like in the hurling, it would be more interesting?

Ball Hopper

Hurling will use penalties as well.

twohands!!!

Quote from: Blowitupref on May 22, 2019, 01:45:27 PM

16 teams in round 1

Leitrim
Monaghan
Down
Derry
Antrim or Tyrone
Fermanagh or Donegal
Tipperary
Waterford
Offaly
Wexford
Louth or Dublin
Longford or Kildare
Carlow or Meath
Laois v Westmeath
London
Wicklow


Looking at the overall performances of the teams from Division 3 and Division 4 this year, you'd nearly swear these teams were doing their best to strengthen the case for a 2nd tier.

Leitrim - Division 4
Monaghan - Division 1
Down - Division 3
Derry - Division 4
Antrim or Tyrone  - Division 4 or Division 1
Fermanagh or Donegal - Division 2 or Division 2
Tipperary - Division 2
Waterford  - Division 4
Offaly - Division 3
Wexford  - Division 4
Louth or Dublin - Division 3 or Division 1
Longford or Kildare - Division 3 or Division 2
Carlow or Meath - Division 3 or Division 2
Laois v Westmeath - Division 3 or Division 3
London  - Division 4
Wicklow - Division 4

At the moment 8 out of the bottom 16 in the league this year are confirmed to be in the first round of the qualifiers.

Limerick are still in the championship proper due to their win over Tipperary.
Sligo were always going to avoid the first round of the qualifiers due to the nature of the Connacht provincial draw. They will be in round 2 after a 13 point loss to Galway.
One of Laois and Westmeath will be in the first round of the qualifiers and one won't as the draw pitted them against each other.

Antrim will be in the first round of the qualifiers if they don't beat Tyrone - 1/200 to qualify for the next round
Carlow will be in the first round of the qualifiers if they don't beat Meath - 1/10 to qualify for the next round
Longford will be in the first round of the qualifiers if they don't beat Kildare - 3/10 to qualify for the next round
Louth will be in the first round of the qualifiers if they don't beat Dublin - No odds for Dublin qualifying for the next round - Dublin 1/100 to win

So most likely looking at a situation where 13 of the 16 teams from Division 3 and Division 4 will be in the first round of the qualifiers.
Of the remaining 3 teams, 2 (Sligo and one of Laois or Westmeath) were never going to be there because of the way the provincial draws went, with Limerick being the only one who avoided the first round of the qualifiers due to their performance on the pitch.

Blowitupref

#14
QuoteLooking at the overall performances of the teams from Division 3 and Division 4 this year, you'd nearly swear these teams were doing their best to strengthen the case for a 2nd tier


Results you mean instead of performances? as Offaly,London,Wicklow,Derry,Limerick delivered competitive performances against higher ranked sides this summer.   
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose