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#2881
GAA Discussion / Re: galway v donegal
July 21, 2015, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 21, 2015, 01:26:58 AM
Quote from: cicfada on July 21, 2015, 12:42:34 AM
Football reinvented in 2002?? Peddling that really makes no sense . Imagine Kerry's all Ireland successes in the 70s and 80s being deemed  irrelevant due to "football being reinvented" as a result of the prevelance of hand passing then?? I don't think so! Galway have had their difficulties for a while but it doesn't make the successes in 98 and 01 any less valuable They beat whoever they came up against at that time. I would put the lack of success down recently to a prolonged stay in Div 2 to be honest and conversely Mayo have prospered in Div 1. in the meantime we wait for Mayo to finally seal the deal in the all Ireland final and I think they have as good a chance as anyone. Donegal will beat Galway and then I feel Mayo will beat them. After that it's the Dubs and  who knows then ? I am in admiration of Mayos resilience and if the full back line is addressed then it could be their year. Good luck to them, it would be great to see it happen, finally !!

Of course they are not irrelevant.
It's hard to do tongue in cheek in print. But stuff won 14/ 17 years ago is about as relevant now as stuff won 70 years ago.
Johnno did grand for ye but by the time we got him second time the game had passed him and others like Boylan, Micko and other legends by. If we had a more 'tactical' manager 07-10 then maybe Horan wouldn t have had to bridge such a gap in preparation and tactics and we might have made it. But we had to go from losing to Sligo and Longford to beating AI champions in one year. And then face Kerry!

As regards our fb line, the only way to address that is to completely restructure the way we play. Horan wasn t willing to do that and even though the present management seem more practical I can t see them take the drastic step. If we has the wait could have been over already. Of all the top teams we have the best hand for a counter-attacking running game off a blanket. I'm not sure if its a case of management not wanting to sell out or not seeing it.

Many of us can remember the triumphs of 1998 and 2001 so its clearly more relevant than something that happened 70 years ago that none of will have seen.

I agree the only way to address it is to restructure your tactical approach. Its admirable that Horan and the 2 fella's now keep faith with the same system, its left you just short in the past although luck certainly evaded Mayo last summer and will likely leave Mayo short again. Looking from the outside I'd certainly agree that Mayo appear to have the players to make a counter attacking running game a success. It would be a hugely odd decision not to give it a go next year it this year ends without success.
#2882
GAA Discussion / Re: galway v donegal
July 20, 2015, 11:30:27 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 20, 2015, 11:17:25 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 20, 2015, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 20, 2015, 10:27:57 PM

Yip. Galway are a Croke Park team.
r

Having not won a game there since 2001 I'd beg to differ.

We've a small chance, I do think Donegal will find it hard to get up for the game though, that's only natural. To what extent we won't know until game day but given certain players have looked tired and the energy that was there against Armagh has disappeared. Mentally they will have prepared for a 3 week break after the Ulster a Final until the quarter final, I'd like to think this will help Galway too.

This week Donegal will feel like shite. But once the week is over and they head toward the game the following week they will be a lot more settled. In the old days the six day turn around was a killer both mentally and physically. Still a great game for Galway. They will learn a lot about themselves playing a team like Donegal.

Hence my disappointment when McBrearty kicked that wide. I'd have been feeling confident meeting either Monaghan or Donegal if they'd gone to a replay.


#2883
GAA Discussion / Re: galway v donegal
July 20, 2015, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 20, 2015, 10:27:57 PM

Yip. Galway are a Croke Park team.
r

Having not won a game there since 2001 I'd beg to differ.

We've a small chance, I do think Donegal will find it hard to get up for the game though, that's only natural. To what extent we won't know until game day but given certain players have looked tired and the energy that was there against Armagh has disappeared. Mentally they will have prepared for a 3 week break after the Ulster a Final until the quarter final, I'd like to think this will help Galway too.

#2884
GAA Discussion / Re: Galway v Derry 18/07/2015
July 20, 2015, 04:16:10 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 20, 2015, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 20, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 19, 2015, 11:08:52 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 19, 2015, 11:03:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 19, 2015, 11:00:36 PM
After all the giving out and criticism of the referee by the lads on the Sunday Game they didn't think it worth while to mention the kick on Micheál Lundy which should have been a straight red for Eoin Bradley?

They didnt show murphys body check on Mcmanus. They didnt show Byran Sheehan's possible black card. They don't get everything but the point was well made - Lane was shocking.

I agree that he gave a lot of soft frees in the game. To both sides. Unfortunately the frees Derry conceded tended to be a lot closer to the posts. Not like he wasn't giving frees to Derry. They had 3 more in the first half alone than Galway did. Black card was an awful decision. Kick on Lundy. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he just didn't see it.

Galway conceded 26 frees whilst Derry conceded 18. I agree the ref was giving soft frees for both teams but that is been completely ignored on here. Galway had the cop on to realise the ref was blowing for everything and were more careful with their tackles in their own half whilst Derry lacked any sort of discipline.

After going 3 points down early on Galway out scored Derry 1-11 to 0-4 points in the next 55 minutes.

These are games we'd have lost under in previous years. Plenty of positives to take to the Donegal game.

That's mighty magnanimous of ye agreeing with a fellow Galway man.  Nothing other the absolute ineptitude and bias is being discussed,  the total foul count is being ignored by everyone but yourself because it means absolutely nothing. 

I've said my peace on it.  Never like talking too much about refs (I reffed myself)  but Lanes performance knocked me over the edge

For Galway to have any chance against Donegal they'll needy start learning how to score from out around the 45.  With the wind on Sat I don't think they even attempted a long range point (I suppose in hindsight they didn't have to)

It means nothing to you as you've decided it doesn't fit in with your point of view.

He made several poor calls that led to Derry frees but you're choosing to ignore this.
#2885
GAA Discussion / Re: galway v donegal
July 20, 2015, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: ck on July 20, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 20, 2015, 02:15:43 PM
I'm happy the games in Croker, will suit Galway better.

Really? How so? Donegal have played in Croke park regularly over the past few years!

From a Sligo point of view I'm delighted to get a Croke Park game. Yeah there are more neutral venues but the double header is attractive and will attract more neutral supporters. I'll be there with bells on, Tyrone hot hot favs. Way to have it.

Donegal all year will have expected to be in Croker for a quarter final appearance on the 2nd weekend in August not for a qualifier on the 1st weekend. They may find it difficult to get up for this game mentally, it depends which way you look at it;it may turn out to be the perfect tonic for them and give them a left as opposed to playing in McHale park. Only time will tell.
#2886
GAA Discussion / Re: galway v donegal
July 20, 2015, 02:15:43 PM
I'm happy the games in Croker, will suit Galway better.
#2887
GAA Discussion / Re: Galway v Derry 18/07/2015
July 20, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 19, 2015, 11:08:52 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 19, 2015, 11:03:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 19, 2015, 11:00:36 PM
After all the giving out and criticism of the referee by the lads on the Sunday Game they didn't think it worth while to mention the kick on Micheál Lundy which should have been a straight red for Eoin Bradley?

They didnt show murphys body check on Mcmanus. They didnt show Byran Sheehan's possible black card. They don't get everything but the point was well made - Lane was shocking.

I agree that he gave a lot of soft frees in the game. To both sides. Unfortunately the frees Derry conceded tended to be a lot closer to the posts. Not like he wasn't giving frees to Derry. They had 3 more in the first half alone than Galway did. Black card was an awful decision. Kick on Lundy. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he just didn't see it.

Galway conceded 26 frees whilst Derry conceded 18. I agree the ref was giving soft frees for both teams but that is been completely ignored on here. Galway had the cop on to realise the ref was blowing for everything and were more careful with their tackles in their own half whilst Derry lacked any sort of discipline.

After going 3 points down early on Galway out scored Derry 1-11 to 0-4 points in the next 55 minutes.

These are games we'd have lost under in previous years. Plenty of positives to take to the Donegal game.
#2888
General discussion / Re: James McClean
July 19, 2015, 01:09:15 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 19, 2015, 01:03:18 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 19, 2015, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2015, 12:49:50 PM
What's he done or said now??

He stood sideways when the rest of the team stood forwards for GSTQ i think in a preseason friendly. A non-story.
The guy should realise he is earning a living in England.
I might just about agree with his decision not to wear a poppy but if he did do that for an anthem then I find it ridiculous.

Agreed, he either likes the attention he's going to continue getting or is extremely thick.
#2889
General discussion / Re: Harry Kane's Father
July 19, 2015, 12:58:10 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 19, 2015, 08:17:48 AM
Does anyone have information on Harry Kane's father,Pat,specifically which part of Galway he hails from and any family he has still in the area?

I've seen Letterfrack mentioned a few times. I've seen a few articles which suggest it's his grandad who's from Galway and not his dad.

While we're on centre forwards Patick Bamford's family are from Galway, I know he has relatives in Loughrea.
#2890
GAA Discussion / Re: Galway v Derry 18/07/2015
July 18, 2015, 10:20:17 PM
Quote from: southderryman on July 18, 2015, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: mouview on July 18, 2015, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: southderryman on July 18, 2015, 07:16:32 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 18, 2015, 07:06:38 PM
Derry will feel aggrieved - should have had a penalty and Galway score 60 seconds later.

That said, Derry fouled too much and afforded Galway too many easy frees.

That was not a penalty

Footblock I'm first half was though.

Another foot block in the second half was also a free.

We were poor, but the 2 above incidents coupled with the 4 frees Galway got points from that were never fouls represent an 8 point swing directly as a result of a poor/ biased  (depending how you look at it) referee

Think the foot block early in the first half you mention was really a 'foot save'  - ball was kicked against outstretched defender's leg.

By the definition of the rule it should have been a penalty. There was an even more.blatant one for a free in the second half. That's 4  points before we look at the soft frees for Galway

Did you think Galway deserved to win?
#2891
GAA Discussion / Re: Galway v Derry 18/07/2015
July 18, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
The black card for Rodgers was a terrible decision.

Which frees that Galway were awarded weren't deserved? The one I can think of was when Conroy was slightly nudged and he dived to the ground just before half time, he missed the subsequent frees. Derry were on the receiving end of some very soft frees today at either ends of the pitch but naturally they won't be mentioned. We didn't see enough replays of so many of the frees awarded to Galway so it's hard to make a proper evaluation.

Galway getting very little credit for 2 comfortable wins against teams who'd beat us according to so many posters on here, now both these counties are hopeless. Galway dominated around the middle for the second half and it gave them a platform to go and and win. Flynn and O'Currrain took a lot of criticism against Mayo but they rebounded well. Derry had wides but their weren't too many good chance missed.

McIver should be where Derry people are directing their anger at.
#2892
General discussion / Re: Running
July 18, 2015, 01:28:07 PM
Been running about 6 weeks, doing 5k's 2 or 3 times a week. Finding it difficult to keep running for the whole 5k though, will always stop to walk at least once but more often than not twice. I'd like not to stop for the whole 5k and that's always my intention but not managed it so far.
#2893
Not even a 48 hour rest for O'Riordan. I doubt he'd be playing an U21 munster football semi final 2 days before a Senior hurling qualifier.
#2894
GAA Discussion / Re: Galway v Derry 18/07/2015
July 17, 2015, 11:35:09 AM
Quote from: galwayman on July 17, 2015, 09:41:24 AM
Ronan Steede was togged last Sunday anyway. I spotted him in the warm up.
Ian Burke is gone from the panel.

Cheers, I thought Ian Burke had gone. I don't think he's ready to make an impact at this level yet. He looks too lightweight, I'm sure that will change over the coming years.
#2895
GAA Discussion / Re: Galway v Derry 18/07/2015
July 17, 2015, 09:31:18 AM
Is Ronan Steede still on the panel?