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#31
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 24, 2017, 07:48:50 PM
Best Antrim club team I've seen since 2012. They play great attacking hurling. I hope they set/lift the standard across the board.
#32
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 24, 2017, 05:18:02 PM
The scoreline flattered Cushendal with those late goals. Dunloy full value for their victory. 1st half was scrappy/physical/niggly - Natty very lucky to have not walked too.

Ryan McCambridge got roasted - needs to stop bulking up he's way too slow now. Nigel Elliott's goal was fantastic.

Dunloy now county champions at minor/U21/senior - they deserve all their success as they are doing the thing right.
#33
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 17, 2017, 09:51:18 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 17, 2017, 09:13:02 PM
Having done it myself in the past, at least the guys in the middle have the balls to put themselves forward to referee games. Also, having been involved in assessing referees, county finals are usually given out considering a number of factors, including a recent positive assessment.

Yeah it's a fair point. A good performance from match officials goes without debate or controversy going back to the old adage "If you don't notice them they've done a good job".
This was very much the case with Colm in the junior final yesterday. Cunning was at the fore for much of the intermediate game yesterday for the reasons pointed out - bad display of refereeing from him.
#34
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 17, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
For starters his umpires were closer. And at worst he'd have been 40/50 yards from the edge of square, you are outside the perimeter of the fence and unless you were standing behind the net, still further than the umpires the is say you were further away. But sure you should try refereeing as you'd be top notch

Respectfully, I'm not going to argue with you on this and I'll give you two reasons;
1)You always side with the referee which means there's no balance to your argument therefore making the debate pointless.
2) I may be wrong on this and correct me if I am, I'm assuming you weren't at the game as I believe you were officiating in Glenariffe at the minor semi final. That being the case why would you even bother offering opinions on a game you weren't at other than to defend a referee and therefore validating my 1st point?
#35
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 17, 2017, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 08:22:20 PM
So he was closer than you and made a decision, what's your problem then?

How do you know he was closer than me?
#36
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 17, 2017, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 08:12:59 PM
All the umpires and lines men are hooked up to mica and the ref talks the whole time.... 7 sets of eyes watching the game, not a lot being missed I'd say. As for the distance on square balls I'd say he was a lot closer than you but you're able to call it.

I wasn't able to call it - not once have I said otherwise.
#37
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 17, 2017, 08:09:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.

Lot of people at the final yesterday felt he had a very negative impact on the game. With the early penalty, the square ball calls from distance, the amount of yellow cards given out? What are your thoughts on those 3 things, PJ?
#38
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 16, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 16, 2017, 05:52:28 PM
Dryer day Sarsfields would have been well out of sight, speed and passing was something else. Carey goal keeper kept us in it. Cunning gave a few soft frees and was a bit card happy. Square ball calls disallowing two goals where debatable in my opinion.

Glenarm kept going for goals, could have won in the last few minutes.

Hard to argue there. He gave 3 square balls - 2 called from the halfway line. He's very arrogant.
#39
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 16, 2017, 05:42:53 PM
Gort nearly let their dominant display slip at the end too. They should have been out of sight. Desy McClean hit a load of wides but given the conditions you can't blame him.
#40
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 16, 2017, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 16, 2017, 05:30:14 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 14, 2017, 02:57:29 PM
My money would be on a Gort na mona and Sarsfields double..

Sarsfields were seriously impressive - 6 points didn't do justice to the scoreline. 2 disallowed goals by Cunning on top of that.
Their running was a joy to watch. How many yellow cards did Cunning hand out?? He seemed to enjoy the attention.

#41
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 11, 2017, 09:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 08:55:20 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 07:31:11 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 06:31:25 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
Carey took some beating from St Johns and get relegated after Randlestown's comeback against Armoy. Was anyone at the St Johns v Carey game? Did they rest players for next week? Taking a beating like that just before championship final surely can't be good for them. Sarsfields maybe favourites going into it.

There was a 6 minute delay at the very end of the Armoy game while the referee decided if a shot was wide or a point. After ignoring advice to go with the near umpire and stating himself that "my instinct was it was wide" he in very peculiar circumstances gave a point. This was one of 3 bizarre incidents from him in the last 4 minutes. If I were a Carey member I'd be absolutely furious.....it relegated them after Armoy leading the entire game......I've never seen anything like it.

Surely how you perform over the season decides whether out not you are relegated? Didn't realise that the last game is winner takes all.. why play all those games? Just play one

The officiating from the referee was shocking was my point. Taking 6 minutes to decide if a score was or wasn't .....I've never seen anything like it!! You're right about the results over the course of a season. However if Carey people had witnessed the last few minutes they'd have been bewildered.

Granted on the time of deciding the score, from my own experience using home and away umpires is difficult and in tight games I try my level best to get behind the ball and call it myself, for a lot of scores it's impossible but you try your best.

I've overruled many an umpire basing it purely on my positioning, I explain it and move on . I speak to the umpires at half time or at the end and explain, very difficult to not give your team a dodgy point!

I've even had grounds where they have changed scores on the board !

The poor guy just buckled under pressure. His big mistake was stating "my instinct was it was wide"....then giving a point. I think the best way is to go to the umpire closest to the ball.

Unfortunately we've no solution to club umpires in league games.
#42
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 11, 2017, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 07:31:11 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 06:31:25 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
Carey took some beating from St Johns and get relegated after Randlestown's comeback against Armoy. Was anyone at the St Johns v Carey game? Did they rest players for next week? Taking a beating like that just before championship final surely can't be good for them. Sarsfields maybe favourites going into it.

There was a 6 minute delay at the very end of the Armoy game while the referee decided if a shot was wide or a point. After ignoring advice to go with the near umpire and stating himself that "my instinct was it was wide" he in very peculiar circumstances gave a point. This was one of 3 bizarre incidents from him in the last 4 minutes. If I were a Carey member I'd be absolutely furious.....it relegated them after Armoy leading the entire game......I've never seen anything like it.

Surely how you perform over the season decides whether out not you are relegated? Didn't realise that the last game is winner takes all.. why play all those games? Just play one

The officiating from the referee was shocking was my point. Taking 6 minutes to decide if a score was or wasn't .....I've never seen anything like it!! You're right about the results over the course of a season. However if Carey people had witnessed the last few minutes they'd have been bewildered.
#43
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 11, 2017, 06:31:25 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
Carey took some beating from St Johns and get relegated after Randlestown's comeback against Armoy. Was anyone at the St Johns v Carey game? Did they rest players for next week? Taking a beating like that just before championship final surely can't be good for them. Sarsfields maybe favourites going into it.

There was a 6 minute delay at the very end of the Armoy game while the referee decided if a shot was wide or a point. After ignoring advice to go with the near umpire and stating himself that "my instinct was it was wide" he in very peculiar circumstances gave a point. This was one of 3 bizarre incidents from him in the last 4 minutes. If I were a Carey member I'd be absolutely furious.....it relegated them after Armoy leading the entire game......I've never seen anything like it.
#44
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 09, 2017, 08:23:33 PM
17 - 4 at halftime .....Dunloy made 5 subs and took the foot off the gas. Dunloy would really need an intense game next weekend which would be hard to come by this time of year.
#45
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
September 09, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners

Need to remember Ballycastle were really poor though