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Title: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on September 14, 2017, 10:25:10 PM
The thread was locked by someone who is against free speech, so 

What will be the team starting team on Sunday, will Brown & Cassidy start, will we play with a sweeper against a serious full forward, on the basis the last team we played with a serious ff Sligo, we were badly exposed?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Raphael on September 14, 2017, 10:48:40 PM
The amount of crap posted on that thread over the years and they decide to lock it now ::) ::)

Here's hoping for a Derry victory on Sunday. Tough test and clifford looked unplayable the last day but if we stick with them until the last 10/15,  I'm hoping a strong bench will give us a realistic chance of taking the cup back.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shantygael on September 14, 2017, 11:05:41 PM
It's all Mac ninety's fault,he started it.😇
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on September 15, 2017, 12:17:22 AM
Silver hill - have you ever put your name forward for the Glen managers position?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on September 15, 2017, 03:49:38 PM
I would start Declan Cassidy instead of M McGrogan for a real scoring threat along side Lorcan Mac in a 2 man FFL

Play Ben in the mid field area .... keep Brown and Mortimer as impacts subs ... depending on what the score is .... might need to them on earlier ... JP did well last day when introduced also Cormac Murphy (he's very quick) could be an option although I don't think he has had any game time .... BUT the key area has to be the effectiveness of our half back defensive zone to hopefully negate Clifford (and Kerry don't have any weak players) .....   It will be a big challenge but the preparation and our game-day management has been good.  Lets hope are mentality on the day can deliver a big performance
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 15, 2017, 04:52:01 PM
Why bother lock a thread when u can start another straight up; go figure!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 16, 2017, 11:55:06 AM
Good crowd to see the minors off this morning which is very encouraging. If they can stick with Kerry to last quarter I fancy our chances as they have finished strongly in the last two games and the Dublin victory will have been a real boost to confidence. Kerry have not played as good a team as Derry this year and if we keep a high intensity from off, cracks might start to appear. Kerry's defence has conceded 9 goals in 5 games.   Anyhow, fantastic to be part of the biggest sporting event in Ireland. Doire abú!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cccc on September 16, 2017, 12:46:15 PM
Minors Gone already ?
Information i had heard was 4-15pm Castledawson Roundabout
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on September 16, 2017, 08:10:25 PM
Would be concerned about tomorrow if team that is selected starts
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 16, 2017, 09:19:40 PM
Looks like a more defensive approach to start, which might be wise tactically? Timing of impact subs will be crucial to outcome. Maybe trying to finish strong with what has been held in reserve?  At least there are good options on the bench.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on September 17, 2017, 09:04:20 AM
Eoghan Ruagh blew the Kilmacud Sevens apart. Thoroughly deserving winners. Sean Leo player of the tournament, with Conleth Gilligan stand out on the day also for Ballinderry who were well beaten by the winners in the Quarter final.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 17, 2017, 12:12:06 PM
Who closed the last thread anyway?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 17, 2017, 01:32:48 PM
So much for playing with a sweeper;
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 17, 2017, 01:41:16 PM
Derry tactically very naive; everbody knew the danger man yet we didnt double up on him and he scored 2-3 and made the other goal!@
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Galer on September 17, 2017, 01:56:04 PM
Derry in big bother if thats the tactics for senior football for the few years,although kerry unreal
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: rrhf on September 17, 2017, 02:49:33 PM
It should have been Clifford v Brown. Instead Derry held back their trump card. Inexplicable. Kerry are the best minor team I've seen.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 17, 2017, 02:57:30 PM
I thought the Kerry team last year was stronger: but for the first goal it was one on one without another derry player within 30m; it didnt make sense the way we set up, big brown played well and to a lesser extent mcwilliams at midfield
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on September 17, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on September 17, 2017, 09:28:11 PM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?

yes
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on September 17, 2017, 11:31:51 PM
Would be concerned about tomorrow if team that is selected starts
Just back from dublin and as i stated beforehand i feared the worse with team selected and especially the way the team was set up for the game.It was just mad to leave our defence wide open for the full game.terrible way to finish the season.
As for the senior game i feel for mayo. They were outstanding and matched dublin in every department and should have seen the game out. they have had no luck over the last few years but still a great team. Hard to believe we had them beat in castlebar so its not all doom and gloom.just hope we have all our players available for the start of the league campaign as it has cost us in the past.Feel we can get out of division 3 if we can continue from were we left of at against mayo and avoid tyrone in the championship would be a help.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on September 18, 2017, 09:44:30 AM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?

alot of the same boys excluded themselves from their hurling team (as they got humiliated) in the county final on Saturday to play a feckin 7's tournament !

Minors blown away by an incredible Kerry team. Their movement was top drawer and our boys were chasing shadows alot of the time. Clifford should have been double teamed from the start. Kerry double-teamed Brown when he he moved to the edge of the square even though they were a mile ahead...anyways, great achievement by the young bucks, they can hold their heads high, 2nd best team in the land!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2017, 09:53:21 AM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?

Absolutely not.

You play for the shirt and county no matter what the situation.

Too many prima donnas in this county
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on September 18, 2017, 10:08:56 AM
First of all it's a shame that the biggest thread on the Gaaboard has to be locked because of a few slabbers.

Secondly how good is David Clifford and that Kerry team.

Thirdly how naive was Derry's setup, played right into their hands, as someone else pointed out even Clifford couldn't believe how open we were. Shocking that we set a record for the largest losing margin in Minor final.

I would say if the Derry senior management post was being decided on today there might be a different outcome than there was 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on September 18, 2017, 10:32:54 AM
I great day in croker, despite the results of both games.
Minors were on a hiding to nothing with the way we set up, to have not sweeper with that forward unit is just incomprehensible.
Brown, why didn't he start? He looked like the only player we had who could win his own ball and cause problems.
Disappointing and demoralising for those young lads.  Kerry are class, but we just made it that much more difficult for ourselves with our tactical mistakes. I hope its not a sign of things to come for the seniors.

Mayo will be gutted. I thought they were the better team, and the referee shafted them.
Yes they missed some easy frees in the first half, but Dublin got away with murder off the ball. O'Gara was there to bully Aidan O'Shea, and the number of times he ran with a beeline for him to hit him a knock was ridiculous. McQuillan was obviously trying to let the game flow, but time and again he didn't give Mayo the free at one end, then gave it to Dublin at the other. He gave them a 14 yard free instead of a penalty and in general I think he was directly responsible for 4-5 scores in Dublin's benefit.
To give Dublin credit where it's due, the subs again were what lifted them in the 2nd half. After Mayo dominated everywhere but the score board in the 1st half, Dublin came storming back with subs again.
Devastating for Mayo.
As good as the players are in Dublin, I feel that team is quickly losing and respect they have throughout the country due to the undoubted bias shown towards them in terms of finance, home advantage and a seemingly unfair advantage provided by referees (at least IMO).  It doesn't take away from the fact that they are great to watch.


Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonysoprano on September 18, 2017, 06:47:11 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2017, 06:55:57 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonysoprano on September 18, 2017, 07:08:20 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league.

I can't speak for all the lads who played but I know most of them would not have seen that as a championship final. It was seen more of a punishment for coming last in the league-  a system which unfortunately for eoghan rua does not favour a dual club with a very small selection of players to choose from and who struggle to field while football is still ongoing.

Eoghan rua are in an unfavourable position for the next few years in hurling. They have nothing to play for. Surely this system needs rethought?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 18, 2017, 08:25:59 PM
Congratulations to Slaughtneil on a fantastic 5 hurling titles in a row and to Eoghan Rua on winning the All Ireland football 7s, especially Sean Leo who got player of the tournament apparently. As for Derry minors, a number froze on the day which is understandable but for the management to freeze? That was bordering on the unforgiveable. Had they practised any Clifford (or Cliffords!) scenarios in training? 6 goals between them, could have been 10.  Really hope that all of the minors recover from the experience because that was tough going.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2017, 08:56:32 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league.

I can't speak for all the lads who played but I know most of them would not have seen that as a championship final. It was seen more of a punishment for coming last in the league-  a system which unfortunately for eoghan rua does not favour a dual club with a very small selection of players to choose from and who struggle to field while football is still ongoing.

Eoghan rua are in an unfavourable position for the next few years in hurling. They have nothing to play for. Surely this system needs rethought?

60% of hurlers in Derry are dual. I dont understand the comment about eoghan rua having nothing to aim for. Surely they could win Derry and Ulster intermediate ?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on September 18, 2017, 09:20:08 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.
Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said


Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 09:42:39 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.
Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said

Can you double check before commenting. For the third goal, Clifford was being harrassed and forced away from goal by good defence, hope that's clearer.
Derry won and Ulster title, beating Tyrone, Antrim and Cavan, beat Sligo in the QF, then the Leinster Champs in the semi final, all with Brown playing his part from the bench. If he started the game the result would still have been the same.
One bad result is not a disaster. Very disappointing for the players and management, but something that should clearly stand to them in the future.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 18, 2017, 09:52:53 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.
Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said

"We had as good of players as the rest of the Kerry lads." Sorry but I would really have to question that assessment, Derry struggled in many positions against superior opposition. For example Fiachra Clifford also ran riot.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 18, 2017, 10:02:24 PM
What Kerry beat Cavan by; 10 or so; what we beat Cavan by 6 or 7, should there been the sheer gulf in class between the 2 teams;  Cavan got over run by Kerry but didnt give away the goal feast we did even though Clifford scored 1-08 from play! Tactically we were bloody terrible:  Cassidy a maccrory cup captain who better than either half back not on and Brown should been on the starting team, and play defensive; result be the same but not a record hammering in a final!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on September 18, 2017, 10:14:50 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.
Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said

Can you double check before commenting. For the third goal, Clifford was being harrassed and forced away from goal by good defence, hope that's clearer.
Derry won and Ulster title, beating Tyrone, Antrim and Cavan, beat Sligo in the QF, then the Leinster Champs in the semi final, all with Brown playing his part from the bench. If he started the game the result would still have been the same.
One bad result is not a disaster. Very disappointing for the players and management, but something that should clearly stand to them in the future.
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Atticus_Finch on September 18, 2017, 10:25:55 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league.

Selling the prestige of the 7s just a bit short there ! Try telling someone from St Gall's or Bryansford that the 7s is a tournament for players after a piss up.  Ridiculous comment.  Eoghan Rua became only the third Derry team after Ballinderry and Bellaghy to win it.  Congrats to them.

Coleraine and Ballinderry (who put tournament favourites st galls out) played some great football during the tournament.

If it's a choice between a junior hurling final with no prospect of playing in Ulster or an all Ireland sevens tournament they had a good chance of winning , there's only going to be one winner surely.

I'm sure Coleraine didn't go into the league with intentions of finishing last, I dont think any team that finishes last in any league usually does to be fair.  I would hazard a guess and say that it wasn't as simple as that.

From speaking to a Coleraine man at the weekend I understand they applied for the fixture to be moved and na magha said no. 
.....

Well done to Derry minors, the disappointing result shouldn't detract from what has not only been a good year but a good period for Derry minors reaching three Ulster finals in a row.

Hopefully McErlain is given a proper chance with Derry so that a few of the good young players he's seen emerge under his watch can make an impact on the senior team, that's not going to happen in one year.

.....

Well done to Na Magha, Lavey and Sneil best of luck in Ulster.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cornerback on September 18, 2017, 10:41:41 PM
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well

Probably because he's David Clifford!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 18, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
The 3rd goal was down to exceptional vision from one of the very best!  Put it down to a great pass under pressure!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 18, 2017, 11:30:11 PM
The 3rd goal was down to exceptional vision from one of the very best!  Put it down to a great pass under pressure!
What were the other five goals down to?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on September 19, 2017, 07:10:26 AM
What Kerry beat Cavan by; 10 or so; what we beat Cavan by 6 or 7, should there been the sheer gulf in class between the 2 teams;  Cavan got over run by Kerry but didnt give away the goal feast we did even though Clifford scored 1-08 from play! Tactically we were bloody terrible:  Cassidy a maccrory cup captain who better than either half back not on and Brown should been on the starting team, and play defensive; result be the same but not a record hammering in a final!

It's all easy in hindsight. The minors were great this year but they didn't do themselves justice in the final. Probably could've used callum brown as part of a double marking job on clifford from the start. At least he would've stopped him winning the high balls so easily. All very easy to think of these things after the game though.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on September 19, 2017, 08:47:29 AM
Hindsight??? What are u blathering on about u fool, sure it was obvious that we were far too open defensively in our last couple of games and that we needed a strategy to address that.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Dire Ear on September 19, 2017, 09:58:22 AM
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well

Probably because he's David Clifford!!
Are the 2 Cliffords related?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 19, 2017, 11:27:16 AM
Well 4 goals come from having a powerhouse at full forward who was hard to contain 1 on 1
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on September 19, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 19, 2017, 12:48:31 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 19, 2017, 04:56:04 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?

Love the 'restored pride' bit.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 19, 2017, 04:57:46 PM
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well

Probably because he's David Clifford!!
Are the 2 Cliffords related?

They are from different clubs according to the programme, if that helps? It didn't help Derry!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on September 20, 2017, 11:20:34 AM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on September 20, 2017, 11:45:46 AM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 20, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on September 20, 2017, 12:17:13 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though

Would you describe it as bickering, has it not moved beyond that? Total disrespect is a more accurate description?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 20, 2017, 12:29:17 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though

Would you describe it as bickering, has it not moved beyond that? Total disrespect is a more accurate description?

Magherafelt and Lavey seem to be forming a rivalry from underage up, however if it would be the wrong stance to take to not play for your county because Seamus Downey is in charge. Whether it be bickering, fighting, disrespect or whatever you want to call it
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on September 20, 2017, 12:57:38 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though

Would you describe it as bickering, has it not moved beyond that? Total disrespect is a more accurate description?

Magherafelt and Lavey seem to be forming a rivalry from underage up, however if it would be the wrong stance to take to not play for your county because Seamus Downey is in charge. Whether it be bickering, fighting, disrespect or whatever you want to call it

What's the beef between Lavey and Magherafelt about?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: uimhr ocht on September 20, 2017, 07:35:31 PM
Bellaghy won u14 championship the last 2 years I think,Lavey won the u16 this year and mfelt have won feile titles so all healthy competitive rivalry.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on September 20, 2017, 10:50:39 PM
Typical townies. Fill the togs when it comes to the championship
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 21, 2017, 09:40:20 AM
Typical townies. Fill the togs when it comes to the championship

Wasn't too long ago Bellaghy celebrated nothing other than a senior championship. Suppose after a barren spell beggers cant be choosers and u14 championships will do
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cornerback on September 21, 2017, 11:21:44 AM
So do Screen have any chance on Sunday? We are certainly up against it but we'll have to perform to our absolute maximum.

We need a similar performance to the first half against Coleraine & will probably need a couple of goals to win.

Chrissy McKaigue probably needs to be man-marked. He is currently their only genuine top notch player (i.e. he would make most/all county teams) but they have a plethora of quality throughout the team.

The defensive set up doesn't work against Slaughtneil, they've shown time & time again that they have the patience & quality to counteract it & eke out the win.

Hoping for a good game.... or I'd even take a miserable game with a Screen victory 😜
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Tagsman on September 21, 2017, 12:58:36 PM
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[b]By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?
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Any idea who could get these jobs?[/b]

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Any idea will these jobs be advertised or will the senior management pick men for the jobs?

Vital we get the right people into these jobs after all the good work done recently]
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: the half-time show on September 21, 2017, 01:35:16 PM
So do Screen have any chance on Sunday? We are certainly up against it but we'll have to perform to our absolute maximum.
Of course they have a chance albeit a small one in my opinion.  Bookies have it over 3-1 for Screen which I'd agree with

We need a similar performance to the first half against Coleraine & will probably need a couple of goals to win.
I'd say the opposite; keeping a clean sheet against Slaughtneil is more important as they are extremely difficult to beat once they're able to get a few points ahead.  They tend to get goals at crucial times so being able to prevent this is imperative if Screen are to see the game out

Chrissy McKaigue probably needs to be man-marked. He is currently their only genuine top notch player (i.e. he would make most/all county teams) but they have a plethora of quality throughout the team.
Agreed that he is their strongest player but they have several men that can carry from deep and get on the end of scores.  Not necessarily man marked but forwards need to be well aware of tracking their men as they go up the field

The defensive set up doesn't work against Slaughtneil, they've shown time & time again that they have the patience & quality to counteract it & eke out the win.
The real difference in the possession game that Slaughtneil play compared to other teams is in their ability to win the free in a scorable area

Hoping for a good game.... or I'd even take a miserable game with a Screen victory 😜
It's only my opinion but Screen won't win a good quality game against Slaughtneil.  I'd expect a fairly dour affair, but as with all finals it's only the result that matters
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: southderryman on September 22, 2017, 03:06:36 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Low and Hard on September 22, 2017, 03:22:14 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on September 22, 2017, 03:34:43 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.

Callan Gaels? Where's that?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: southderryman on September 22, 2017, 03:47:03 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.

Thanks

When/where isn't he intermediate game then?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: southderryman on September 22, 2017, 03:55:01 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.

Callan Gaels? Where's that?

I think it's an amalgamation of desertmartin and money more
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 22, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
I see locations for fixtures in the county hasn't improved any

Doire Trasna v Ogra on at Fauganvale, whats that 9 mile for the city team and 40+ mile for Ogra
hows that work?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 22, 2017, 10:03:18 PM
I see locations for fixtures in the county hasn't improved any

Doire Trasna v Ogra on at Fauganvale, whats that 9 mile for the city team and 40+ mile for Ogra
hows that work?

Availability of playable pitches?  Omagh v Ardboe championship match had to be played in Armagh as no nuetral pitch in Tyrone was suitable. A lot of water fell this last while, could be an explanation?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2017, 05:31:31 PM
Wonder will the county board review the video of that Doire Trasna -Ogra game with the Ogra Goalkeeper getting attacked by a supporter taking a kick out, then numerous Doire Trasna supporters entering the field during the melee that followed, Doire Trasna should be kicked out of the championship and club suspended. Disgraceful stuff and there no excuse from the county board as its all on video.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on September 23, 2017, 08:01:08 PM
it was far from a classic but the double completed after beating the Vale today, hard work probably done in the first half going in 3 up after playing into a strong wind,
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 23, 2017, 09:13:48 PM
Wonder will the county board review the video of that Doire Trasna -Ogra game with the Ogra Goalkeeper getting attacked by a supporter taking a kick out, then numerous Doire Trasna supporters entering the field during the melee that followed, Doire Trasna should be kicked out of the championship and club suspended. Disgraceful stuff and there no excuse from the county board as its all on video.
If true, shocking.  Hope it is viewed before the replay.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2017, 10:02:45 PM
This was 10mins into the 2nd half, craziest thing i seen on a pitch in years, goalkeeper was kicking the ball out then attacked from behind after the kick out,as Doire trasna were attacking, match was stopped for ages, with the Doire Trasna sub bench emptying and about 10 men (supporters entering the field from behind the goal) the person in question came from the Doire Trasna sub bench and ended up there during the 2nd half, don't know what the ref was at, that he didnt put this person outside the wire, didn't look too old either. This game was videoed, its going to be ugly viewing for the Disciplinary committed. Ref should have abandoned the game.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 23, 2017, 10:29:03 PM
County Board must take action.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2017, 11:10:48 PM
Every county has games with unsavoury conduct but Derry tops the pile by some distance. Not a week goes past without reports of serious indiscipline and there never seems to be any punishment. Most if this has nothing to do with sport.

Derry CCC is a shame on the association.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 12:41:05 AM
Any stats on this bannside or are ye just talkin out yer hole
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on September 24, 2017, 07:38:49 AM
Newbridge complete the league and championship double, and reserves also win the league. Quite an achievement for Paddy Bradley in his first management job in the county.

Quite fortunate he took the team when they were ranked #1 in Div.2 and not the worst team in Div.1, though. Season could have been so much different.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 24, 2017, 09:38:37 AM
Any stats on this bannside or are ye just talkin out yer hole
Are you asking re stats for violence on player-player? Supporters-players? Players-ref or supporters-ref? 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 10:09:40 AM
"Derry tops the pile by some distance"

Yeah anything at all to back this up be nice
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 10:13:39 AM
That's easy. Enough content in this thread alone to confirm that. Hardly a week goes past.....
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 10:24:33 AM
Thats what i thought. Thanks
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 10:55:23 AM
But not just that, though that shouldn't need clarified. My comment about "topping the pile by a distance" may be OTT, fair enough, (simply because how could anyone quantify what goes on in the other 31 counties)  but maybe you would prefer if I say the rate of unsavoury incidents in club matches in Derry club GAA is a bit on the high side. Would that brush it far enough under your carpet?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 11:36:00 AM
Thanks again.

Nothin bein swept under the carpet here chap just callin you out on yer bullshit.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 11:52:23 AM
It may have been a very broad statement, but I can only let you away with calling it bullshit because there is no way of quantifying what I said. On those grounds I'm ugly enough to accept that. Are you big enough to accept that the discipline in Derry GAA is atrocious, and if your admin don't get it's act together very soon and get it's house in order, someone will get very badly injured or worse?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
Id say yer man that got his leg broke at the hurling a while ago would argue it already has. Little doubt discipline could be improved. Id hazard a guess most counties would be the same though as i havent the stats to back it up i cant say that for sure.  Have a read of the Trone thread when league seasons in full swing.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cuyahoga on September 24, 2017, 04:22:31 PM
H-T Slaughtneil 2-08, Screen 0-07
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cuyahoga on September 24, 2017, 05:12:21 PM
F-T Slaughtneil 4-12, Ballinascreen 1-11
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Raphael on September 24, 2017, 05:29:09 PM
Never made the game but seems to have been another slick performance from a Slaughtneil team that shows no signs of slowing down. Only the 2nd ever team to win 4 consecutive Derry SFC's. Are there any realistic contenders to stop them winning at least the next 2-3?

Think Ulster could be tough for them this year with a tricky draw (Down away in prelim, and tyrone in QF) but still wouldn't fancy coming up against them.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on September 24, 2017, 07:01:17 PM
They have serious runners all over the pitch starting with McNeil Rogers and K McKaigue right up to the McGuigans up in the inside forward line. Very assured performance today. The 2 first half goals killed off any chance Screen had.

Shane McGuigan, very good today got motm, though I'd have given it to Pauric Cassidy, covered every blade, run through the heart of the Screen middle again and again and used the ball very well with his foot passing
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on September 24, 2017, 07:13:16 PM
Is it fairto say Swatragh are the second best team in the county?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on September 24, 2017, 07:53:48 PM
Is it fairto say Swatragh are the second best team in the county?

Yes.

In the same way Derry are the third best team in the country.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 24, 2017, 08:46:42 PM
Is it fairto say Swatragh are the second best team in the county?

Yes.

In the same way Derry are the third best team in the country.

Good one. Lol!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Billy Magoo on September 24, 2017, 08:48:07 PM
Mickey Moran - what a legend. 4 in a row champions!!!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 24, 2017, 08:53:51 PM
Slaughtneil very impressive today although Screen will be disappointed with their performance, poor start and never really recovered. Primary possession from kick outs was one of Slaughtneil's strengths, strong running from midfield really cut open Screen's defence for the goals. Rodgers, Chrissy and Sammy were excellent in first half and the game was effectively over at halftime. 4-12 is a big return in a final, they may even be better than last year?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on September 24, 2017, 10:23:25 PM
Very impressive by slaughtneil today. All the usual suspects played their part. McGrath stood out with a number of lung busting runs to get on the end of kick outs. McMullan's kick outs very good and very accurate especially with the short ones when there didn't seem to be much space.

Might be easier said than done but to beat slaughtneil a team will need to force them kick more 50/50s especially from their kick outs. gifting them possession from kick outs allows them to build quite easily and they rarely force anything in the attacking end. I wonder is there a club in ireland that have as many top class runners.

Thought the ref was very sore on screen. Some obvious fouls not blown and a potential black cards ignored.

I feel it's going to take a huge bad day at the office for slaughtneil to be beat in derry over the next 2-3 years. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on September 25, 2017, 08:59:36 AM
Well summed up Link.

Really feel for our lads because they could never get into the game and show what they could do.

Thought our tactics were lacking, and the sweeper system didn't work effectively.

However, there's no doubt that the better team won. Slaughtneil were seriously good from start to finish. A level above Screen and anyone else I've seen this year. I was so impressed with them.

Clinical, disciplined, focused, well conditioned. Hard to see anyone beating them any time soon.

Sammy, the McKaigue's, Rodgers et al were fantastic, and played their roles perfectly.

Twin, Patsy and Round Head were steadying the ship all game too with some really smart play.

Not to mention the talent coming off the Slaughtneil bench, most of whom would start on any club team in Ulster imo.

Then you have Moran overseeing proceedings, and it completes the perfect jigsaw.

Thought the referee was a joke with some of his decisions against Screen. But this didn't contribute to the result.

Best of luck to Slaughtneil in Ulster, they look even better than last year and will take some stopping.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on September 25, 2017, 09:47:16 AM
Well summed up Link.

Really feel for our lads because they could never get into the game and show what they could do.

Thought our tactics were lacking, and the sweeper system didn't work effectively.

However, there's no doubt that the better team won. Slaughtneil were seriously good from start to finish. A level above Screen and anyone else I've seen this year. I was so impressed with them.

Clinical, disciplined, focused, well conditioned. Hard to see anyone beating them any time soon.

Sammy, the McKaigue's, Rodgers et al were fantastic, and played their roles perfectly.

Twin, Patsy and Round Head were steadying the ship all game too with some really smart play.

Not to mention the talent coming off the Slaughtneil bench, most of whom would start on any club team in Ulster imo.

Then you have Moran overseeing proceedings, and it completes the perfect jigsaw.

Thought the referee was a joke with some of his decisions against Screen. But this didn't contribute to the result.

Best of luck to Slaughtneil in Ulster, they look even better than last year and will take some stopping.

+1

Slaughtneil by far the better side and unfortunately for us the score didn't flatter them.
They have pace all over the pitch, which we don't seem to have.
They looked better drilled too...they must have won 100% of their own kickouts, where we probably lost 50% of ours.
Their support play was superb and we just couldn't match it. I'm not sure if that was because they were able to stop us as they were so much better or if it was because we had not prepared to that level.
Hard to tell where we go from here.

Again, no real reflection on the end result as we were so well beaten, but the ref was a joke. We couldn't buy a free, or a penalty (def a peno against big Anton just before half time) and he seemed to give frees against us at the drop of a hat. I'd question the appointment of a Glenullin referee for a final with Slaughtneil in it due to the obvious links between both clubs when it comes to hurling. That could give cause for bias, and for me (albeit looking at it through screen tinted glasses) he was very one sided in his calls.

Anyway, best of luck to the Emmets, deserved winners.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on September 25, 2017, 11:56:15 AM
As a neutral, the best team won.  Major gulf in the two teams ability.

However, Dan Mullan certainly favoured Slaughtneil in their semi final win against Glen and also yesterday.  It was clear for all to see
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on September 25, 2017, 12:40:30 PM
Game Watch
S’neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and ‘Screen were on the back foot already.  S’neil’s mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for ‘Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, ‘Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness ‘Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought ‘Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan’s save from the penalty was excellent, and although ‘Screen’s goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn’t used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S’neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S’neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don’t think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S’neil are worthy Champions, they’ve a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it’s a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S’neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S’neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S’neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring ‘Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn’t really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn’t suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Glenman93 on September 25, 2017, 12:55:33 PM
Game Watch
S’neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and ‘Screen were on the back foot already.  S’neil’s mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for ‘Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, ‘Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness ‘Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought ‘Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan’s save from the penalty was excellent, and although ‘Screen’s goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn’t used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S’neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S’neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don’t think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S’neil are worthy Champions, they’ve a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it’s a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S’neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S’neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S’neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring ‘Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn’t really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn’t suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 25, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
Slaughtneil really impressive, better than the past few years.

I've seen a lot of football in Tyrone over the past 2 weekends and have also saw Cargin 2/3 times this year Slaughtneil are heads and shoulders above any of them. The runners they have (McKeagues, Roger, Feeny, Tad, Meehaul McGrath) coming from deep and the amount of support runners is unreal.

As someone mentioned already I also think they won very close to 100% of their own kickouts which is the base for their composed possession type brand of football.

Shé McGuigan/O'Doherty will not kill you on the scoreboard but are two great ball winners and will feed Sammy/Shane all day helping them rack up scores. On top of this they have a county standard defence. Karl McKeague is a great man marker, Chrissy leads everything, Feeny is tenacious and full of running, Rogers quite similar only a bigger build and Paul McNeil goes massively under rated, class act. Throw in The leadership/experience of Paul Bradley, Patsy Bradley and McEldowney and you have one hell of a team.

An absolute sure thing to dominate Derry football for the next 6-8 years. And if they continue to dive them selves on and don't loose hunger I honestly think they can go one step further than last year and will an AI club championship.

On a side note - Mullan was very poor. Didn't effect the result at all but some really questionable decisions. None more so than the foul on Anton Kelly in the first half that was a stone wall penalty.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on September 25, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
Game Watch
S’neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and ‘Screen were on the back foot already.  S’neil’s mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for ‘Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, ‘Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness ‘Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought ‘Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan’s save from the penalty was excellent, and although ‘Screen’s goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn’t used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S’neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S’neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don’t think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S’neil are worthy Champions, they’ve a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it’s a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S’neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S’neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S’neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring ‘Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn’t really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn’t suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??

Just point out where I said it was the Ref’s fault.
In the next paragraph I said that he had no impact on the scoreline.
Points 2,3 and 4 were fouls/decisions that went against S’neil.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on September 25, 2017, 01:43:36 PM
Game Watch
S’neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and ‘Screen were on the back foot already.  S’neil’s mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for ‘Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, ‘Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness ‘Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought ‘Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan’s save from the penalty was excellent, and although ‘Screen’s goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn’t used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S’neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S’neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don’t think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S’neil are worthy Champions, they’ve a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it’s a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S’neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S’neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S’neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring ‘Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn’t really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn’t suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??

Think you should read the whole post before calling anyone out.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on September 25, 2017, 01:44:57 PM
Slaughtneil really impressive, better than the past few years.

I've seen a lot of football in Tyrone over the past 2 weekends and have also saw Cargin 2/3 times this year Slaughtneil are heads and shoulders above any of them. The runners they have (McKeagues, Roger, Feeny, Tad, Meehaul McGrath) coming from deep and the amount of support runners is unreal.

As someone mentioned already I also think they won very close to 100% of their own kickouts which is the base for their composed possession type brand of football.

Shé McGuigan/O'Doherty will not kill you on the scoreboard but are two great ball winners and will feed Sammy/Shane all day helping them rack up scores. On top of this they have a county standard defence. Karl McKeague is a great man marker, Chrissy leads everything, Feeny is tenacious and full of running, Rogers quite similar only a bigger build and Paul McNeil goes massively under rated, class act. Throw in The leadership/experience of Paul Bradley, Patsy Bradley and McEldowney and you have one hell of a team.

An absolute sure thing to dominate Derry football for the next 6-8 years. And if they continue to dive them selves on and don't loose hunger I honestly think they can go one step further than last year and will an AI club championship.

On a side note - Mullan was very poor. Didn't effect the result at all but some really questionable decisions. None more so than the foul on Anton Kelly in the first half that was a stone wall penalty.

Maybe something they've worked at continuously since the Corofin game?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 25, 2017, 02:14:09 PM
Slaughtneil really impressive, better than the past few years.

I've seen a lot of football in Tyrone over the past 2 weekends and have also saw Cargin 2/3 times this year Slaughtneil are heads and shoulders above any of them. The runners they have (McKeagues, Roger, Feeny, Tad, Meehaul McGrath) coming from deep and the amount of support runners is unreal.

As someone mentioned already I also think they won very close to 100% of their own kickouts which is the base for their composed possession type brand of football.

Shé McGuigan/O'Doherty will not kill you on the scoreboard but are two great ball winners and will feed Sammy/Shane all day helping them rack up scores. On top of this they have a county standard defence. Karl McKeague is a great man marker, Chrissy leads everything, Feeny is tenacious and full of running, Rogers quite similar only a bigger build and Paul McNeil goes massively under rated, class act. Throw in The leadership/experience of Paul Bradley, Patsy Bradley and McEldowney and you have one hell of a team.

An absolute sure thing to dominate Derry football for the next 6-8 years. And if they continue to dive them selves on and don't loose hunger I honestly think they can go one step further than last year and will an AI club championship.

On a side note - Mullan was very poor. Didn't effect the result at all but some really questionable decisions. None more so than the foul on Anton Kelly in the first half that was a stone wall penalty.

Maybe something they've worked at continuously since the Corofin game?

I would imagine so. They are twice the team now compared to the one vs Corofin.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Glenman93 on September 25, 2017, 02:19:49 PM
Game Watch
S’neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and ‘Screen were on the back foot already.  S’neil’s mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for ‘Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, ‘Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness ‘Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought ‘Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan’s save from the penalty was excellent, and although ‘Screen’s goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn’t used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S’neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S’neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don’t think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S’neil are worthy Champions, they’ve a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it’s a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S’neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S’neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S’neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring ‘Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn’t really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn’t suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??

Just point out where I said it was the Ref’s fault.
In the next paragraph I said that he had no impact on the scoreline.
Points 2,3 and 4 were fouls/decisions that went against S’neil.

Apologies - read the post too quickly.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on September 25, 2017, 03:02:47 PM
That was a tough one to take because I thought Slaughtneil hadn't played that well in the Championship to date and that we could put in a performance to ambush them. Little did I know they were looking to peak at the right time and they definitely have.

No point rehashing what others have said because I agree with the majority of it they played really well yesterday and probably a better performance than the Vincent's game, they will take some stopping in Ulster and further if they get there.

Screen along with the rest of the County will have to go back to the drawing board because it's going to take something special to beat this team. For Screen I think we have some good young lads coming through who can step up to the next level so hopefully we can see that over the next few years... we need to get back there again!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on September 25, 2017, 03:03:56 PM
I'm especially happy Slaughtneil won as it will have annoyed the 'Enda Gormley brigade' who were out in force here last week; but haven't been heard of since.

Should we send out a search party for Silverhill?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on September 25, 2017, 05:26:05 PM
Just a case of Draperstown shiting in the nest again. In their favour you have to give them credit for getting to a county final with the players they have. The referee in the semi final against Glen and yesterday was very biased towards Slaughtneil. Over and out
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on September 25, 2017, 08:51:17 PM
Just a case of Draperstown shiting in the nest again. In their favour you have to give them credit for getting to a county final with the players they have. The referee in the semi final against Glen and yesterday was very biased towards Slaughtneil. Over and out

Glistening summary from an informed and clearly well educated, football man.

An alternative view - maybe it was a case of being outclassed and well beaten by one of the best club sides of our generation?

I don’t know if you were at the game, but it clearly wasn’t a contest. Slaughtneil were magnificent.

Maybe Bellaghy could have made a game of it.

That’s right, we hammered them in the first round - the absolute shitbags.

I actually feel sorry for you. Every time you’re on here, you’re having a go at Screen.

Just imagine how nice a life you would have if you let go of all the bitterness.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 25, 2017, 09:33:02 PM
Just a case of Draperstown shiting in the nest again. In their favour you have to give them credit for getting to a county final with the players they have. The referee in the semi final against Glen and yesterday was very biased towards Slaughtneil. Over and out

Glistening summary from an informed and clearly well educated, football man.

An alternative view - maybe it was a case of being outclassed and well beaten by one of the best club sides of our generation?

I don’t know if you were at the game, but it clearly wasn’t a contest. Slaughtneil were magnificent.

Maybe Bellaghy could have made a game of it.

That’s right, we hammered them in the first round - the absolute shitbags.

I actually feel sorry for you. Every time you’re on here, you’re having a go at Screen.

Just imagine how nice a life you would have if you let go of all the bitterness.

It is tempting to respond to the wolf man talking out of his tone, however he is not a Bellaghy man with such pro british sentiment. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on September 26, 2017, 09:32:10 AM
Regarding the programme for the C'ship final, some of the articles in there were very good, but I was hoping for some information on previous finals... Eg Winners, Runners Up, Scorelines, Venue, MoTM, C'ship Top Scorer, etc..

Checked the Derry website and they only have recorded the winners.
Checked Wiki, they have some of the information. But it is still missing a lot of stuff, like the last 5 MoTM, 2 of the last 5 captains and the last 4 Top Scorers, plus the scoreline from the 2004 final.

Can anyone fill in the blanks on this, especially back beyond 2000, as the info for the 90's and 80's is very patchy.  Or point to an online location where I might find this information.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on September 26, 2017, 12:59:15 PM
I have kept them all in the 90s and 2000s, but they are at home and I'm not there unfortunately.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on September 26, 2017, 02:05:22 PM
Congratulations to the four members of Derry's Ulster Championship winning Minor team and this year's All Ireland Minor finalists on being selected on the Minor  County Team of 2017.

To be selected in any position is a great honour but to be picked in the four central positions of full back,centre half back,midfield and full forward is a particularly outstanding achievement.

So well done Conor McCluskey,Padraig McGrogan,Oisin McWilliams and Lorcan McWilliams.We hope and expect to see you again starring on Derry teams at all levels in the years to come.Hopefully many other Minors from Damian McErlain's management sides of the last three years will be joining you.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on September 26, 2017, 07:41:51 PM
Over the past three years Derry have produced an unusually high quota of outstanding Minor footballers, reaching three successive Ulster finals and winning two of them. As a fun exercise I have decided to select a team, from them, whom I definitely feel have the ability to be top class Senior inter county footballers ( to be fair outgoing Senior County manager Damian Barton has already initiated this process by selecting several of them at Senior level during his two year tenure.I have no doubt his former team colleague, new manager Damian McErlain, will continue to do likewise).
                                 
                                                   Ben McKinless
Niall Keenan                                Conor McGrogan                            Oisin Duffin
Michael McEvoy                            Conor Glass                                   Padraig McGrogan
                              Patrick Kearney                 Oisin McWilliams
Jack Doherty                                Callum  Brown                                Patrick Coney
Ben McCarron                               Lorcan McWilliams                         Shane McGuigan.

Many other players including  the talented Callum Mullan-Young,Conor McCluskey,Simon McErlain,Shea Downey,Conor Doherty,Paddy Quigg and Francis Kearney could easily be selected instead of the players mentioned above.Unfortunately, from a Derry perspective, it would appear at this stage that Conor Glass's rapid progress in the AFL will probably mean that he is unlikely to feature in a Derry jersey at least in the near future.

Let us all hope that all of the above will commit themselves to the County when and if they are asked to do so. Along with the hopeful availability of all the other best players in the County  our Senior team can make tremendous strides and  restore pride and success to our county.It has the potential both on and off the field to do so
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 27, 2017, 11:14:47 AM
I see Bellaghy haven't entered a team into the Derry u21 championship as they said it would hinder their chances in the minor championship.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 27, 2017, 01:23:55 PM
Did the committee met to review the video from the ogra v Doire Trasna game as i see the replay friday night!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on September 27, 2017, 01:40:38 PM
Two things
Toby, it's none of your business whether we put in an u21 or not but I don't agree with it

Wild weasel . I've been reliably informed that the fat Douretrasna referee had a long conversation with Harry Tohill after that game
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 27, 2017, 02:08:45 PM
Two things
Toby, it's none of your business whether we put in an u21 or not but I don't agree with it

Wild weasel . I've been reliably informed that the fat Douretrasna referee had a long conversation with Harry Tohill after that game

Lol, ratty. Joke club
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 27, 2017, 08:21:12 PM
Two things
Toby, it's none of your business whether we put in an u21 or not but I don't agree with it

Wild weasel . I've been reliably informed that the fat Douretrasna referee had a long conversation with Harry Tohill after that game

Now now, this is not the tone of united Irishmen.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 02, 2017, 09:04:28 PM
As it is over five days since anyone posted I thought maybe all GAA supporters in the county had transferred their allegiance elsewhere!!So I have decided to stimulate some debate by asking posters to pick their County All Star Club championship 15( players to be numbered in the traditional fashion ie 1-15) either at Senior,Intermediate or Junior levels.Their final selections should be based on actual performances in this year's competitions.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 03, 2017, 08:36:32 AM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: drillsergeant on October 03, 2017, 01:22:36 PM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.

No Greenlough players toby47?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 03, 2017, 02:16:54 PM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.

No Greenlough players toby47?

Ah, genuine mistake. Loughlin in for Conway and Lynn in the unlucky pile. People might say more deserve a say but we have to remember they beat Glenullin (just promoted) and Banagher (just relegated)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 05, 2017, 12:37:13 PM
Hearing Damien McErlaine picked/met his panel on Tuesday night. Couple of Coleraine men on the panel, however not as many as I'd have liked. Obviously still early yet.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: drillsergeant on October 05, 2017, 02:09:19 PM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.

No Greenlough players toby47?

Ah, genuine mistake. Loughlin in for Conway and Lynn in the unlucky pile. People might say more deserve a say but we have to remember they beat Glenullin (just promoted) and Banagher (just relegated)

Toby47 you werent far away from your Derry Club Allstar selections, this was the Irish News Derry Club Allstar selections; Still think there are few unlucky players that wasn't included.

1.McMullan (Slaughtneil)
2.McBride (Screen)
3.Rodgers (Slaughtneil)
4.K McKaigue (Slaughtneil)
5.McWilliams (Screen)
6.C McKaigue (Slaughtneil)
7.McEldowney (Slaughtneil)
8.Bradley (Slaughtneil)
9.Heron (Screen)
10.Sammy (Slaughtneil)
11.Mulgrew (Ballinascreen)
12.Lynn (Greenlough)
13.Shane McGuigan (Slaughtneil)
14.Se McGuigan (Slaughtneil)
15.Loughlin (Greenlough)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 05, 2017, 10:40:08 PM
Two Greenlough players on it and they play nobody of consequences to get to the semi. We were the only team who put it up Slaughtneil, surely in that basis we could have had one representative. Not that give a tot about it
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 05, 2017, 11:00:09 PM
Why who was outstanding in that 1 game from swatragh to get on the 15; saying the team based on the whole club championship of which greenlough played 3 games
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on October 07, 2017, 01:22:17 PM
Swatragh #6 James?? Kearney was best player on the pitch against Slaughtneil.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on October 07, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
Ballinderry won the Reserve Final against Kilrea this evening.
Final Score: 3-17 to 0-12.
If you want to see highlights from the melees (both on the pitch and in the stand) head on over to the Tommy French Sports Betting Facebook page. Not sure how or why they are posted there. But you’ll find a couple of videos.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 07, 2017, 10:39:35 PM
Disgusting and appalling scenes. Kick both clubs out of adult competition for a season.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: ONEDerry on October 07, 2017, 10:52:32 PM
Disgusting and appalling scenes. Kick both clubs out of adult competition for a season.

Not a thing will happen. Weak powerless people in charge who will play it all down as not being as bad as what happened in the good auld days.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 07, 2017, 11:46:35 PM
Disgusting and appalling scenes. Kick both clubs out of adult competition for a season.
You are correct. How do they deal with this in Antrim?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Low and Hard on October 08, 2017, 03:24:18 AM
Was at the game and first and formost was a good gam with some high quality football played. With regards the row have to say it was started by kilrea completely. Ballinderry we're winning easy and last min, kilrea couldn't take it. A number of kilrea ones let their club down a bagful today.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on October 08, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
Good to see Derry club football getting national recognition. We’re so proud.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/massive-brawl-derry-club-final-turns-ugly-spills-stands-138929
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thebuzz on October 08, 2017, 04:12:47 PM
Great to see Slaughtneil get to another Ulster Final. Thought Dunloy would have too much for them. Glad I was wrong.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 08, 2017, 07:26:22 PM
Great atmosphere in An Abhainn Bheag today, crowd still coming in right up to halftime.  They will leave earlier the next time! 6,000 there, great first half but Slaughtneil bossed the game from 15 mins on.  A couple of Dunloy boys decided to tackle Chrissy late on, when it was too late. They didn't stay on their feet too long!  Cormac O'Doherty superb. Very mature performance from the Ulster Champions.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: 36-03-09 on October 08, 2017, 09:17:03 PM
When Ballinderry can beat officials and cry their way out of a punishment, do you think there'll be any meaningful consequence here? Bunch of savages, backed by a spineless board.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Low and Hard on October 08, 2017, 10:05:14 PM
When Ballinderry can beat officials and cry their way out of a punishment, do you think there'll be any meaningful consequence here? Bunch of savages, backed by a spineless board.
Were you at the game chap?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 09, 2017, 09:18:05 AM
Hearing Damien McErlaine picked/met his panel on Tuesday night. Couple of Coleraine men on the panel, however not as many as I'd have liked. Obviously still early yet.

Any big shock omissions or additions/returns to the Derry senior panel?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 09, 2017, 10:06:33 AM
Hearing Damien McErlaine picked/met his panel on Tuesday night. Couple of Coleraine men on the panel, however not as many as I'd have liked. Obviously still early yet.

Any big shock omissions or additions/returns to the Derry senior panel?

Heard Mark Lynch, James Kielt and Danny Heavron aren't part of it. Very youthful squad
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on October 09, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on October 09, 2017, 07:24:22 PM
Heard that today myself. Also a few players have said 'no' to damians invite to join the panel. I really am concerned even before the season starts as the vibes are not good.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on October 09, 2017, 08:00:25 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It’ll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren’t on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 09, 2017, 11:38:39 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It’ll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren’t on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.
Would be surprised if they do not feature at some stage next year. Very early to be deciding on a squad. Division 3 football will require some experienced hands on board so hopefully no doors have been shut tight yet.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 10, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It’ll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren’t on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Hearing last night that Herron nor Heavron have been included in the Derry panel and that neither have been spoken to in any regard by the manager. These two lads along with James Kielt have been probably our best and most consistent operators in the Derry jersey over the past few seasons! What is the thinking behind it? Surely they'll be returning/called up for the league? Correct me if i'm wrong but arent these players all around the 25/26 year old mark? Prime age!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on October 10, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Time will tell, biggest game of the season so far arguably in Newry on Sunday, hopefully another winter of following Slaughtneil ahead. Good luck to Newbridge as well, fancy them to do well in Ulster however Moy will be tough to turn over. Junior Final on Saturday also, if its anything like lasts years it should be a cracker with the Magilligan and Drum game was the game of the day that day.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 10:24:36 AM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It’ll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren’t on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Hearing last night that Herron nor Heavron have been included in the Derry panel and that neither have been spoken to in any regard by the manager. These two lads along with James Kielt have been probably our best and most consistent operators in the Derry jersey over the past few seasons! What is the thinking behind it? Surely they'll be returning/called up for the league? Correct me if i'm wrong but arent these players all around the 25/26 year old mark? Prime age!

Benny would be 25/26 I think and Kielt and Heavron around 28 as both were on the same minor team. Not sure the thinking behind it at all but if Damien expects to do well with the majority of his squad being u21 then it's just as naive as playing 40 yards of space in front of Clifford. Also if Slaughtneil come out of ulster again that's another 4/5 key players missing the first few league games which could have a lasting impact on the season.

Saying that, in Barton's two years they pulled Tyrone out of the hat in first round of ulster. A kinder draw this year could maybe help Derry gain a bit of confidence but from what i'm hearing early on the signs aren't good.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 10, 2017, 11:22:17 AM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It’ll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren’t on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Hearing last night that Herron nor Heavron have been included in the Derry panel and that neither have been spoken to in any regard by the manager. These two lads along with James Kielt have been probably our best and most consistent operators in the Derry jersey over the past few seasons! What is the thinking behind it? Surely they'll be returning/called up for the league? Correct me if i'm wrong but arent these players all around the 25/26 year old mark? Prime age!

Benny would be 25/26 I think and Kielt and Heavron around 28 as both were on the same minor team. Not sure the thinking behind it at all but if Damien expects to do well with the majority of his squad being u21 then it's just as naive as playing 40 yards of space in front of Clifford. Also if Slaughtneil come out of ulster again that's another 4/5 key players missing the first few league games which could have a lasting impact on the season.

Saying that, in Barton's two years they pulled Tyrone out of the hat in first round of ulster. A kinder draw this year could maybe help Derry gain a bit of confidence but from what i'm hearing early on the signs aren't good.

Ah ffs, the state of Derry and its football perfectly summed up in a few words in early October
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 10, 2017, 11:41:32 AM
Re the make up of the new Derry Senior football panel maybe, like what some of our previous managers did, Damian McErlain has selected a Provisional panel of some experienced players mixed with a large coterie of U21 players for pre season and McKenna Cup purposes. Then like them he picks a more stable panel which includes all the best players in the County for the League.

If that is not the case and Heavron,Kielt  Heron and others are not selected on a permanent basis then there will be a lot of difficult questions to be answered.

Either way for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football Damian has to issue a statement announcing his intentions for the coming season.Players officials and supporters do not need any more uncertainty re our Senior football team. We need a clear unambiguous plan which includes ALL of our best players,  irrespective of age and previous unavailability, playing again for our county.We have suffered long enough.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 10, 2017, 11:54:33 AM
Re the make up of the new Derry Senior football panel maybe, like what some of our previous managers did, Damian McErlain has selected a Provisional panel of some experienced players mixed with a large coterie of U21 players for pre season and McKenna Cup purposes. Then like them he picks a more stable panel which includes all the best players in the County for the League.

If that is not the case and Heavron,Kielt  Heron and others are not selected on a permanent basis then there will be a lot of difficult questions to be answered.

Either way for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football Damian has to issue a statement announcing his intentions for the coming season.Players officials and supporters do not need any more uncertainty re our Senior football team. We need a clear unambiguous plan which includes ALL of our best players,  irrespective of age and previous unavailability, playing again for our county.We have suffered long enough.

Completely agree, hopefully he wil shed some light on his plans shortly and we can all get behind the team. Just hope no bridges have been burnt already!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on October 10, 2017, 01:19:59 PM
Sucky Bell and Postie NOT on panel
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:20:46 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

don't know how an starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

As far as i know postie did not get a call. Banagher keeper is up apparently , from what i seen of him this year he was decent
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 10, 2017, 01:22:02 PM
Does anyone know if Sean Brady made the panel?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on October 10, 2017, 01:36:05 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

Is it not an initial panel of 26 players with the SN players to be added.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Low and Hard on October 10, 2017, 01:53:28 PM
What is the panel? Or how do people know who haven't made it.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on October 10, 2017, 02:23:36 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

From what i heat Lynch has the option to be included and is taking time to think about it. Has been a great servant for his county.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 02:27:20 PM
Sean Brady is not on panel.

Can confirm it is not an initial panel with senior players to be added as Chrissy McKaigue, Ciaran McFaul, Enda Lynn, Karl McKaigue, Carlus McWilliams and others are on it.

Also talking to a club mate of one of the high profile players left out. He said the player found out through one of the players who had been asked up to the panel and has heard no word from management yet as to why he was left out. I don't expect squad players who have been called up close to championship to get a personal phone call as to why he hasn't been picked the following year but if a player gives 6 or 7 years to the county and is one of the more dedicated players and leading performers within the group surely a phone call from new management is the way to go?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 02:37:15 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

From what i heat Lynch has the option to be included and is taking time to think about it. Has been a great servant for his county.

Don't understand why Heavron isn't on the panel, he's been one of if not the our most consistent performers. Really strange call
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 02:39:56 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

From what i heat Lynch has the option to be included and is taking time to think about it. Has been a great servant for his county.

Don't understand why Heavron isn't on the panel, he's been one of if not the our most consistent performers. Really strange call

Perhaps himself and McErlean had a rift a club level, only thing I could maybe think off.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 10, 2017, 04:06:51 PM
Before this uncertainty,real or imagined,gets further out of hand re the new Derry football panel,provisional or otherwise,  Damian McErlain needs to explain immediately where this whole process is at.If that is done then we can at least make a realistic judgment call of where exactly he and his management team see the future of all the best players in the County.

Our players and supporters deserve  at least to know what their plans are.
Hopefully it is only a lack of proper communication which has created  all of this uncertainty.

As a successful  minor manager Damian was renowned for his communication and man-management skills.

Let us hope that the future of our Senior team under his stewardship will display that same unity of purpose where all of our best players are part of the new set-up( at least eventually).
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 10, 2017, 04:12:38 PM
Before this uncertainty,real or imagined,gets further out of hand re the new Derry football panel,provisional or otherwise,  Damian McErlain needs to explain immediately where this whole process is at.If that is done then we can at least make a realistic judgment call of where exactly he and his management team see the future of all the best players in the County.

Our players and supporters deserve  at least to know what their plans are.
Hopefully it is only a lack of proper communication which has created  all of this uncertainty.

As a successful  minor manager Damian was renowned for his communication and man-management skills.

Let us hope that the future of our Senior team under his stewardship will display that same unity of purpose where all of our best players are part of the new set-up( at least eventually).

Holy God lads it's October I wouldn't be worrying about who's in the panel or not until after Christmas at the very least... Calm down!

Let's wait until we see a National League or a Championship panel until we start judging we haven't even played a match yet!!!!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 10, 2017, 04:14:32 PM
Some of the names being mentioned as not being asked are baffling, but it' very very early days. There has to be a certain amount of flexibilty eg you can't expect the likes of big Mark to be wheeled out for the cardinal o'fiaich and kept at it until championship. It'll be interesting to see the senior panel for next year. Looking forward to the Div 3 campaign. They'll be a few ding-dong battles

Div 3 Final (Sat @ CP) prediction

Limavady v Doire Trasna   (Trasna by 4)


 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Blue and White on October 10, 2017, 06:15:34 PM
Any player not recalled to the County panel can only have themselves to blame, certainly not McErlain, he never selected them in the first place. Lads should be grateful to wear the jersey and not expect it to owe you anything. Smith can thank them for their contribution if needed. A serious footballer will know himself why he wasn't picked so less of this pandering to individuals. A ruthless management team and panel is what's needed
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 10, 2017, 08:11:40 PM
Derry county board fixtures committee strike again !  we have at least 9 of our under 21s involved with our senior panel with 5 or 6 probable starters and they fix our under 21 semi final  against Claudy for this Friday  2days before we play in the first round of the Ulster club ,  you couldn't make it up !!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 10, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
It seems there was 3 separate melees at the Ballinderry - Kilrea game, according to the papers, abit like Winston Churchhill opening WW2 speech we fight them on the beaches, in the stands, and if u still standing the carpark after.

On a serious note that 3 bad fights in the county in 3 week running with that one, the intermediate final and the Ogra - Doire Trasna game, Nothing was done with that one even though on tape, wonder how the other 2 will turn out,
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: North Man on October 10, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
When was the fight at the intermediate final ?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 10, 2017, 10:08:39 PM
 A ruthless management team and panel is what's needed,

I go rather with a management that brings tactics instead of playing 1on1 with the best player in the country at minor level. Tactical nouse on that one - Zero

Another would be to pick the best players in the county if they are available, some of the players mentioned  not on the panel are the best in the county presently,
i would expect the panel to change after christmas

Can someone put up the preliminary panel?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 10, 2017, 10:09:36 PM
When was the fight at the intermediate final ?

 Sorry Intermediate reserve!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: North Man on October 10, 2017, 10:15:47 PM
Dungiven and Sneil 3rd teams ??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 11, 2017, 09:25:23 AM
Only one I was at was the Dungiven thirds vs Slaughtneil thirds last week in Draperstown, boxing on the pitch and in the stands. We all saw the video's of Kilrea vs Ballinderry and I never saw the Ogra/Trasna one. Dungiven/Swatragh supposedly had a right wee rumble last week in the u21's with a supporter or two jumping the wire.

Cannot condone any of these incidents however any club would feel hard done by now with a large punishment when so many previous melee's have been ignored. example, a brawl between Glenullin vs Foreglen a couple of years ago in a playoff in Owenbeg was all over the internet and I don't remember any suspensions or punishment handed out.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on October 11, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say “I told you so”, if it does go wrong, and then they’ll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn’t at the first meeting and why I’m not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally…

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 11, 2017, 11:08:53 AM
Yeah, and the really hilarious part of it is that we have only about 400/500 supporters who regularly attend the games.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on October 11, 2017, 12:50:35 PM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say “I told you so”, if it does go wrong, and then they’ll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn’t at the first meeting and why I’m not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally…

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.

Best post in a long time  :)
so many pretending to be behind the new management. Give them a chance and trust them to do the right things.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 12, 2017, 12:00:05 AM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say “I told you so”, if it does go wrong, and then they’ll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn’t at the first meeting and why I’m not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally…

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.

Best post in a long time  :)
so many pretending to be behind the new management. Give them a chance and trust them to do the right things.

Trust is crucial.  Not sure the trust is as strong after the Clifford disaster. Lack of plan A, no plan B. what was the planning/preparation in training? 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on October 12, 2017, 12:05:57 AM
For fucksake lads; it was only a Junior standard fight , not a punch was on target. The fighting in the other games were reserve standard.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 12, 2017, 12:18:05 AM
For fucksake lads; it was only a Junior stand fight , not a punch was on target. The fighting in the other games were reserve standard.
No comment please until we see the referee's report.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 12, 2017, 09:37:50 AM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say “I told you so”, if it does go wrong, and then they’ll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn’t at the first meeting and why I’m not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally…

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.

That would be great actually  ;D
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 14, 2017, 04:53:27 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

CHAMPIONEEES!!! 🏆🏆🏆🏆
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 06:48:15 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from
If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 14, 2017, 06:51:47 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 07:30:25 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 14, 2017, 07:43:32 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.

Nonsense... had you been to many of these games previously you’ll know that kind of stuff has been going on for 4 years now with no complaints from us and in fairness there were no complaints from Bellaghy after the match. It was a tough hard fought match but I agree the ref was not great that 2nd penalty was never a penalty and I thought no. 5’s first yellow was quite harsh.

The free at the end had already been brought forward so couldn’t be brought forward again!

Well done to all our lads today having been heartbroken against this Bellaghy team on at least 4 occasions previously in big matches they stood up today and said it was not going to happen again. I thought personally it would be a tall order without JP Devlin but the lads never stopped throughout.

Special mention to our goalkeeper Ryan Scullion who made 4 fantastic saves it was the kind of performance you dream about he was brilliant!

Going by the Feile a few years ago Screen and Bellaghy went on to contest an All Ireland Semi Final so hopefully we can go well in Ulster!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on October 14, 2017, 07:52:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.

Bellaghy players or management don't need any lessons in sledging. They were up to their usual antics in the semifinal against us. Glad to see Screen beat them today and not that surprised. I always thought screen had the better players out of the 2 teams and better team players.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 07:54:22 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from
If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!
it was a said with a hint of sarcasm because when I seen the result I knew TFAL wouldn't be seen on this board for months because of the fool he's made himself into. He was already a tube,now he's a fool. Congratulations to Ballinascreen,you have helped this thread. PS I had to laugh at you're last comment on here when you blame the referee whilst admitting Bellaghy had been awarded 2 penalty. 2 penalties that were missed-lol
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 08:15:11 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.

Bellaghy players or management don't need any lessons in sledging. They were up to their usual antics in the semifinal against us. Glad to see Screen beat them today and not that surprised. I always thought screen had the better players out of the 2 teams and better team players.
Sledging is wrong no matter where it comes from.  Are you trying to justify it? Screen had indeed better team players, in fact that was the key to their victory but still does not condone the antics in the last five minutes. Mind you, when there are role models like Lee Keegan at the top table ...?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from
If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!
it was a said with a hint of sarcasm because when I seen the result I knew TFAL wouldn't be seen on this board for months because of the fool he's made himself into. He was already a tube,now he's a fool. Congratulations to Ballinascreen,you have helped this thread. PS I had to laugh at you're last comment on here when you blame the referee whilst admitting Bellaghy had been awarded 2 penalty. 2 penalties that were missed-lol

Clearly you can't spell but not being able to read is a huge disadvantage. If TFAL is never again on the board it will be too soon. It still does not alter what unfolded today.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 08:54:19 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from
If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!
it was a said with a hint of sarcasm because when I seen the result I knew TFAL wouldn't be seen on this board for months because of the fool he's made himself into. He was already a tube,now he's a fool. Congratulations to Ballinascreen,you have helped this thread. PS I had to laugh at you're last comment on here when you blame the referee whilst admitting Bellaghy had been awarded 2 penalty. 2 penalties that were missed-lol

Clearly you can't spell but not being able to read is a huge disadvantage. If TFAL is never again on the board it will be too soon. It still does not alter what unfolded today.
I was not at the game today so I can't comment. All I can say is that there was no sign of sledging from Screen in the semifinal against us. We had big expectations and it was only decided in injury time. Games are won on fine margins and in most circumstances the best team wins.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on October 14, 2017, 09:03:53 PM
Typical Swatragh, gloating on others misfortunes. Spent money on a minor set up, McGurn and Crozier and still mocking Bellaghy foe losing. Brave heart, you epitomise Swatragh, nobodies!

Bellaghy, typical arrogance. "Special group". What has that group won? 12s and 14s? This big blue bus might have missed a few stops.

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 14, 2017, 09:30:10 PM
Typical Swatragh, gloating on others misfortunes. Spent money on a minor set up, McGurn and Crozier and still mocking Bellaghy foe losing. Brave heart, you epitomise Swatragh, nobodies!

Bellaghy, typical arrogance. "Special group". What has that group won? 12s and 14s? This big blue bus might have missed a few stops.

I thought Bellaghy won U16 as well did they not?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 09:42:07 PM
Typical Swatragh, gloating on others misfortunes. Spent money on a minor set up, McGurn and Crozier and still mocking Bellaghy foe losing. Brave heart, you epitomise Swatragh, nobodies!

Bellaghy, typical arrogance. "Special group". What has that group won? 12s and 14s? This big blue bus might have missed a few stops.

I thought Bellaghy won U16 as well did they not?
Rossa beat Swatragh in the u16 final.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 15, 2017, 07:27:03 PM
Twenty mins into first half against Shercock we were  4 points down and  had 3 players black carded, we hung into only be down a point at half time, second half different proposition out scoring them by 2-12 to 1-01
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: left peg on October 16, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JohnDenver on October 16, 2017, 08:55:11 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

I'm almost sure if that was the case, then the correct decision was made to award the penalty. I think there was a similar issue discussed widely in the AI final, where Mayo should have been awarded a penalty during a period of advantage.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cornerback on October 16, 2017, 10:37:12 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

I'm almost sure if that was the case, then the correct decision was made to award the penalty. I think there was a similar issue discussed widely in the AI final, where Mayo should have been awarded a penalty during a period of advantage.

From the referee handbook
"If, during the advantage period, another foul is committed against the team which received the original advantage, then a free kick/puck will be awarded for the “second” foul if it is considered more advantageous than the original."
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: left peg on October 16, 2017, 10:42:01 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

I'm almost sure if that was the case, then the correct decision was made to award the penalty. I think there was a similar issue discussed widely in the AI final, where Mayo should have been awarded a penalty during a period of advantage.

From the referee handbook
"If, during the advantage period, another foul is committed against the team which received the original advantage, then a free kick/puck will be awarded for the “second” foul if it is considered more advantageous than the original."

Thanks for clearing that up lads wasn't too sure of the ruling on such an incident.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on October 16, 2017, 11:09:55 AM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

The only way that lad should be let through the gates of Owenbeg again is if he’s rebuilding them. That’s if his ego can fit through them.

What’s wrong with giving the Slaughtneil keeper a shot?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 16, 2017, 11:25:24 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

I'm almost sure if that was the case, then the correct decision was made to award the penalty. I think there was a similar issue discussed widely in the AI final, where Mayo should have been awarded a penalty during a period of advantage.

From the referee handbook
"If, during the advantage period, another foul is committed against the team which received the original advantage, then a free kick/puck will be awarded for the “second” foul if it is considered more advantageous than the original."
It is interesting that you can find  this information because I'd be fairly sure that most of the referees in Derry don't know it. A lot of them don't play advantage
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Buzzkill on October 16, 2017, 11:31:45 AM
Big congratulations to Screen minors. Great for the young lads and the whole club especially after the disappointment of the seniors losing in the final a couple of weeks ago.

And it was brilliant that the young lads put on a great performance and won that game for JP Devlin, who unfortunately got a bad injury in the semi final win over Swatragh and was missing for the final.

Its been a great tussle between this Screen team and Bellaghy since as far back as u12. But finally Screen has come out victorious beating Bellaghy for the minor title.

This is an exact replica from our last minor winning team of 2005, who eventually beat another Bellaghy team having lost against them at every level at underage.

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Tagsman on October 16, 2017, 12:40:45 PM
Big congratulations to Screen minors. Great for the young lads and the whole club especially after the disappointment of the seniors losing in the final a couple of weeks ago.

And it was brilliant that the young lads put on a great performance and won that game for JP Devlin, who unfortunately got a bad injury in the semi final win over Swatragh and was missing for the final.

Its been a great tussle between this Screen team and Bellaghy since as far back as u12. But finally Screen has come out victorious beating Bellaghy for the minor title.

This is an exact replica from our last minor winning team of 2005, who eventually beat another Bellaghy team having lost against them at every level at underage.
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Any of these lads gonna make the step into senior side next year? 

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: sam03/05 on October 16, 2017, 01:32:28 PM
Is Slaughtneil home or away v Omagh
If at home mostly likely to be at Celtic Park? with the Owenbeg pitch poor
In winter
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 16, 2017, 01:46:06 PM
Clarity on the rule be nice seeing it cost Mayo a penalty if correct in the all-irleand final?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 16, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
As we patiently await the draw for the 2018 Ulster Senior football championship next Thursday night I thought that I would engage in some crystal ball gazing and select the team that I would like to see representing Derry in the first round.Of course in this ideal situation no one is injured and all of our best players want to play and the selectors want to pick them!!

                                               Ben McKinless
Niall Keenan                           Brendan Rogers                     Dermot McBride
Liam McGoldrick                      Chris McKaigue                      Sean Leo McGoldrick
                              Conor McAtamney           Emmett Bradley
Ciaran McFaul                         Danny Heavron (capt)                     Enda Lynn
Benny Heron                          Terence O'Brien                      Niall Loughlin

Remaining Panellists.

T Mallon, Anton  McMullan,G McKinless,C Nevin,K McKaigue, C McGrogan K Johnston, N Forrester, M Bateson,M Mc Evoy,C McWilliams,N Holly,P Cassidy, A McLoughlin,J Kielt,C McWilliams,C Bradley, Declan Hughes,E McGuckin,R Bell, N Toner and Danny Tallon.


As the modern game is essentially a 20 - man team effort I would look upon  all of the above but especially K McKaigue,G McKinless,M Bateson,C McWilliams,N Holly,P Cassidy, J Kielt, R Bell,C Bradley,Shane McGuigan and Danny Tallon as being prime candidates to come on during the course of the game at any time but especially during the last quarter.Indeed all of the latter would  also be very competent  to be on from the beginning.

I am sure that there are other obviously suitable  candidates outside those that I have mentioned above.

If Damian McErlain and his management team can get all of the above players willing and able to participate he will have the nucleus of a very good competitive team who can make a realistic
push for promotion from Division Three of the League and depending on the draw who knows what Derry might achieve in the Championship.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mikhailov on October 16, 2017, 02:30:50 PM
As we patiently await the draw for the 2018 Ulster Senior football championship next Thursday night I thought that I would engage in some crystal ball gazing and select the team that I would like to see representing Derry in the first round.Of course in this ideal situation no one is injured and all of our best players want to play and the selectors want to pick them!!

                                               Ben McKinless
Niall Keenan                           Brendan Rogers                     Dermot McBride
Liam McGoldrick                      Chris McKaigue                      Sean Leo McGoldrick
                              Conor McAtamney           Emmett Bradley
Ciaran McFaul                         Danny Heavron (capt)                     Enda Lynn
Benny Heron                          Terence O'Brien                      Niall Loughlin

Remaining Panellists.

T Mallon, Anton  McMullan,G McKinless,C Nevin,K McKaigue, C McGrogan K Johnston, N Forrester, M Bateson,M Mc Evoy,C McWilliams,N Holly,P Cassidy, A McLoughlin,J Kielt,C McWilliams,C Bradley, Declan Hughes,E McGuckin,R Bell, N Toner and Danny Tallon.


As the modern game is essentially a 20 - man team effort I would look upon  all of the above but especially K McKaigue,G McKinless,M Bateson,C McWilliams,N Holly,P Cassidy, J Kielt, R Bell,C Bradley,Shane McGuigan and Danny Tallon as being prime candidates to come on during the course of the game at any time but especially during the last quarter.Indeed all of the latter would  also be very competent  to be on from the beginning.

I am sure that there are other obviously suitable  candidates outside those that I have mentioned above.

If Damian McErlain and his management team can get all of the above players willing and able to participate he will have the nucleus of a very good competitive team who can make a realistic
push for promotion from Division Three of the League and depending on the draw who knows what Derry might achieve in the Championship.

you never even named him in your subs, now you saying he is a candidate to start from the beginning. In fairness, a strong squad but still can only see 75% of them lads making themselves available...
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 16, 2017, 03:08:36 PM
No point picking a championship team, this time of year but if available P Cassidy will be midfield
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 16, 2017, 03:14:38 PM
Is Slaughtneil home or away v Omagh
If at home mostly likely to be at Celtic Park? with the Owenbeg pitch poor
In winter

Celtic Park Sat 28th Oct @ 7.00pm - confirmed
Newbridge v Belcoo before it @ 5.15
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 17, 2017, 09:29:29 AM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

The only way that lad should be let through the gates of Owenbeg again is if he’s rebuilding them. That’s if his ego can fit through them.

What’s wrong with giving the Slaughtneil keeper a shot?

Bit harsh on Postie. Think over the last 3-4 years, he's been one of the top keepers in the County.

McMullan definitely worthy of a call up. I was very impressed with him in the County Final.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 17, 2017, 09:41:23 AM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

The only way that lad should be let through the gates of Owenbeg again is if he’s rebuilding them. That’s if his ego can fit through them.

What’s wrong with giving the Slaughtneil keeper a shot?

Bit harsh on Postie. Think over the last 3-4 years, he's been one of the top keepers in the County.

McMullan definitely worthy of a call up. I was very impressed with him in the County Final.

You'd have to assume Mackers will start with a blank canvas. The likes of Postie and Cassidy who walked away a the 11th hour last year will most likely be given a shot as there's no direct history between them. Imo that's the way it should be with the new manager , but they'll have to earn their stripes like everyone else, and if they do come back into the panel, they owe the shirt

Be something if all the men DerryOptimist has listed would make themselves available .
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 17, 2017, 11:17:07 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that wron the minor title three years ago.
The u21 championship needs revamped. It needs to be played at the start of the year before the league starts when there isn't anything else on. Then teams would take it seriously
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:19:47 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that wron the minor title three years ago.
The u21 championship needs revamped. It needs to be played at the start of the year before the league starts when there isn't anything else on. Then teams would take it seriously

I agree, it is a joke of a compo now. With the U20s moving to the summer, that will be some craic btw with clubs, March and April is now available for the club compo, unless Maghera get to the Mc Rory final which would effect us.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:42 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheImpactCode on October 17, 2017, 12:44:51 PM
It is always very hard to get all the games fitted in that need to be played.

U21 (U20 or whatever ye-ma-callit) needs to be played in tandem with the senior leagues to give players a chance to break into senior teams

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 17, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bigball on October 17, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 17, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 17, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.

That's the way football goes fellas. If we had 10 footballers staying on every year to play seniors or reserves our senior teams would be training with panels of 100. 3-4 coming through each year is what every club is aiming for, but its not what every club gets. Even more so now the way club football is going with S&C sessions, Pitch sessions etc boys cant be bothered coming down the road from uni 3/4 nights a week to play reserve football so massive dropout rates and clubs then struggle to get them out in cold October nights to gather an u21 team.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bigball on October 17, 2017, 03:11:52 PM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.

Care to name me a club that fields an under21 team without any minors?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 17, 2017, 04:31:02 PM
I doubt there would be any but I would guarantee you that Lavey, Faughanvale, Dungiven and more would still have fielded this year if they were told minors couldn't play.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bigball on October 17, 2017, 05:39:48 PM
I doubt there would be any but I would guarantee you that Lavey, Faughanvale, Dungiven and more would still have fielded this year if they were told minors couldn't play.

and what's your club mr expert?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 17, 2017, 09:18:39 PM
I'm no expert but I know we used at least 15 u21s not including minors.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bigball on October 18, 2017, 08:38:00 AM
I'm no expert but I know we used at least 15 u21s not including minors.

You've conceded plenty over the years tho so get off the high horse.
Glen's record in the comp speaks for its self. However the way it's now scheduled has turned it into a farce with little interest from all.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 18, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Just heard that if Ireland succeed in winning their bid for hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup that all designated grounds for this  huge sporting and tourist event will be entitled to  large infrastructure grants both for the individual stadia and the cities in which the games will take place. If true that would mean that Derry City in general terms and Celtic Park in particular, as one of those designated grounds, would be in for a huge financial investment.

After all the years of official discrimination and untold suffering by so many innocent people  no city or county would deserve such a welcome bonus any better than the  good people of our own home place.

I would hope that Derry County Board,Derry City Council and all relevant government bodies,both north and south,would have proper provisional plans made for this exciting development were it to happen.

I am sure that all GAA followers in Derry and elsewhere would like to see the accommodation and playing facilities in Celtic Park updated and developed, particularly if it were to mean the allocation of substantial external grants to make the dream become a reality. Any posters out there know anything further about the prospects of this happening.

I know 2023 is a long time away but would it not be nice to see 2022 All Ireland winning Derry Senior football captain Brendan Rogers along with his vice captain Conor McAtamney show off the Sam Maguire Cup to the millions of the Irish diaspora across the world at the launch of the first World Rugby Cup game in Celtic Park!!! Unless we have such dreams and ambitions  no team or no management will ever achieve anything.Roll on 2018!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 18, 2017, 12:02:45 PM
Just heard that if Ireland succeed in winning their bid for hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup that all designated grounds for this  huge sporting and tourist event will be entitled to  large infrastructure grants both for the individual stadia and the cities in which the games will take place. If true that would mean that Derry City in general terms and Celtic Park in particular, as one of those designated grounds, would be in for a huge financial investment.

After all the years of official discrimination and untold suffering by so many innocent people  no city or county would deserve such a welcome bonus any better than the  good people of our own home place.

I would hope that Derry County Board,Derry City Council and all relevant government bodies,both north and south,would have proper provisional plans made for this exciting development were it to happen.

I am sure that all GAA followers in Derry and elsewhere would like to see the accommodation and playing facilities in Celtic Park updated and developed, particularly if it were to mean the allocation of substantial external grants to make the dream become a reality. Any posters out there know anything further about the prospects of this happening.

I know 2023 is a long time away but would it not be nice to see 2022 All Ireland winning Derry Senior football captain Brendan Rogers along with his vice captain Conor McAtamney show off the Sam Maguire Cup to the millions of the Irish diaspora across the world at the launch of the first World Rugby Cup game in Celtic Park!!! Unless we have such dreams and ambitions  no team or no management will ever achieve anything.Roll on 2018!

Gregory? Is that you?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 18, 2017, 12:11:05 PM
Just heard that if Ireland succeed in winning their bid for hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup that all designated grounds for this  huge sporting and tourist event will be entitled to  large infrastructure grants both for the individual stadia and the cities in which the games will take place. If true that would mean that Derry City in general terms and Celtic Park in particular, as one of those designated grounds, would be in for a huge financial investment.

After all the years of official discrimination and untold suffering by so many innocent people  no city or county would deserve such a welcome bonus any better than the  good people of our own home place.

I would hope that Derry County Board,Derry City Council and all relevant government bodies,both north and south,would have proper provisional plans made for this exciting development were it to happen.

I am sure that all GAA followers in Derry and elsewhere would like to see the accommodation and playing facilities in Celtic Park updated and developed, particularly if it were to mean the allocation of substantial external grants to make the dream become a reality. Any posters out there know anything further about the prospects of this happening.

I know 2023 is a long time away but would it not be nice to see 2022 All Ireland winning Derry Senior football captain Brendan Rogers along with his vice captain Conor McAtamney show off the Sam Maguire Cup to the millions of the Irish diaspora across the world at the launch of the first World Rugby Cup game in Celtic Park!!! Unless we have such dreams and ambitions  no team or no management will ever achieve anything.Roll on 2018!

The last I heard was it was between CP and McHale Park as the final venue.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheImpactCode on October 18, 2017, 10:06:02 PM
Who do Ballinascreen play in the first round of the Ulster minor championship?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 18, 2017, 10:21:57 PM
No. Would Gregory talk about "Derry City Council"? Infact, would anyone from Strabane call it that?!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 18, 2017, 10:23:11 PM
Who do Ballinascreen play in the first round of the Ulster minor championship?

Draw not made yet. First Rd around the back end of November afaik
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheImpactCode on October 18, 2017, 10:31:24 PM
There seems to be an awful dropout rate at the minute.  Lot of U21 games conceded and there are not enough games at underage level.  For all the coaching, lads need more games if clubs are going to get families to buy in.

Think counties (not just Derry) need to really look at the structures and get more players involved.  reserve leagues are dying on their feet.

I see there is a Roe Valley team entered in the MacRory or McLarnon Cups.  A great idea.

The likes of Brian Smith and Brian McIver should be pushing more of this type of thing.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 18, 2017, 10:34:35 PM
To answer "The Impact Code's " query as to which club Derry Minor champions Ballinascreen are drawn against in the Ulster Minor club championship (officially known as St Paul's Belfast Tournament!!) to the best of my knowledge the draw has not been made yet.However I am open to correction on this.

More importantly I hope Ballinascreen keep up a proud Derry winning tradition in this tournament.They have many very good footballers and it would be nice to see them gain some provincial silverware.

In the past outstanding individuals like Tony Scullion,Matt Trolan and Brendan Kelly starred for the Derry Senior team on numerous occasions, a  mantle now carried on by Dermot McBride,Benny Heron and Carlus McWilliams.Every club needs an occasional extra boost and this competition can be an incentive for Ballinascreen to make the most of their opportunity.

This years star  minors like John Paul Devlin and Martin Bradley can do likewise.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 18, 2017, 10:35:25 PM
We beat  Claudy by 1-16 to 0-13 tonight in  an entertaining under 21 B semi final , now  play glenullin in final on Sunday , ( Faughanvale v Lavey in A Final )
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 19, 2017, 12:14:49 AM
To answer "The Impact Code's " query as to which club Derry Minor champions Ballinascreen are drawn against in the Ulster Minor club championship (officially known as St Paul's Belfast Tournament!!) to the best of my knowledge the draw has not been made yet.However I am open to correction on this.

More importantly I hope Ballinascreen keep up a proud Derry winning tradition in this tournament.They have many very good footballers and it would be nice to see them gain some provincial silverware.

In the past outstanding individuals like Tony Scullion,Matt Trolan and Brendan Kelly starred for the Derry Senior team on numerous occasions, a  mantle now carried on by Dermot McBride,Benny Heron and Carlus McWilliams.Every club needs an occasional extra boost and this competition can be an incentive for Ballinascreen to make the most of their opportunity.

This years star  minors like John Paul Devlin and Martin Bradley can do likewise.

Cheers DO but unfortunately JP done his cruciate against Swatragh in the Semi Final which just shows how much the lads stepped up in the Final with such an influential player missing!

Really looking forward to the Minor Tournament fingers crossed we can give it a good go.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 19, 2017, 08:57:28 AM
To answer "The Impact Code's " query as to which club Derry Minor champions Ballinascreen are drawn against in the Ulster Minor club championship (officially known as St Paul's Belfast Tournament!!) to the best of my knowledge the draw has not been made yet.However I am open to correction on this.

More importantly I hope Ballinascreen keep up a proud Derry winning tradition in this tournament.They have many very good footballers and it would be nice to see them gain some provincial silverware.

In the past outstanding individuals like Tony Scullion,Matt Trolan and Brendan Kelly starred for the Derry Senior team on numerous occasions, a  mantle now carried on by Dermot McBride,Benny Heron and Carlus McWilliams.Every club needs an occasional extra boost and this competition can be an incentive for Ballinascreen to make the most of their opportunity.

This years star  minors like John Paul Devlin and Martin Bradley can do likewise.

Cheers DO but unfortunately JP done his cruciate against Swatragh in the Semi Final which just shows how much the lads stepped up in the Final with such an influential player missing!

Really looking forward to the Minor Tournament fingers crossed we can give it a good go.

Yes, wishing JP a very speedy recovery!

A skilful, jinky, wee player; and as I overheard at a Minor game this year, "He's like a buckled wheel coming at ye!"

Best wishes to the lads in Ulster.

I still remember when CJ McGourty broke Screen hearts in 2005 with a clinker of a score in the dying minutes.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on October 19, 2017, 09:29:49 AM
We beat  Claudy by 1-16 to 0-13 tonight in  an entertaining under 21 B semi final , now  play glenullin in final on Sunday , ( Faughanvale v Lavey in A Final )

Anyone have any idea why the final is being played in Glenullin?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lagerman on October 19, 2017, 10:18:55 AM
We beat  Claudy by 1-16 to 0-13 tonight in  an entertaining under 21 B semi final , now  play glenullin in final on Sunday , ( Faughanvale v Lavey in A Final )

Anyone have any idea why the final is being played in Glenullin?

Was originally to be played at neutral venue but couldn't guarantee the lights would be on
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 19, 2017, 02:21:09 PM
The draw is tonight. I think we will get a good first round draw, as I think Mc Erlean seems to carry some good luck with him.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2017, 03:01:57 PM
The draw is tonight. I think we will get a good first round draw, as I think Mc Erlean seems to carry some good luck with him.

so Tyrone in Omagh it will be then so
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 20, 2017, 12:15:12 AM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we’ve a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on October 20, 2017, 05:58:41 AM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we’ve a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!

Terrible draw for Derry.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 20, 2017, 09:41:36 AM
Re next year's Ulster championship Quarter final draw against the winners of Donegal/Cavan and going on  previous history Derry will be at home to Donegal if the latter  win the Preliminary game and away to Cavan if the Breffni men win at Ballybofey in the first game.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 20, 2017, 06:41:42 PM
We beat Donegal just once in the championship past 20yrs
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 20, 2017, 07:56:41 PM
If Derry have all their best players fit and available and play with the same spirit and determination that they showed against Mayo in normal time in Castlebar, in this year's Qualifiers,  I have no doubt that they can beat either Donegal or Cavan in next year's Ulster championship.

Hopefully Damian McErlain and his management team can creature a united unity of purpose and a cohesive proper game plan to make this possible.

On another issue is there any word on who is in charge of managing the County's U17 and U20 squads for next season?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on October 20, 2017, 08:36:08 PM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we’ve a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!

Terrible draw for Derry.
Don't agree. Think it is a excellent draw and don't rule out cavan beating donegal and we always beat cavan. Great chance of getting to ulster final as tyrone and monaghan in other half. as i said in the past if we can play with the same heart as we finished last year against mayo then its onwards and upwards for us. hope we can get everyone playing at start of league as this has been a stumbling block in the past
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 21, 2017, 11:07:51 PM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we’ve a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!

Terrible draw for Derry.
Don't agree. Think it is a excellent draw and don't rule out cavan beating donegal and we always beat cavan. Great chance of getting to ulster final as tyrone and monaghan in other half. as i said in the past if we can play with the same heart as we finished last year against mayo then its onwards and upwards for us. hope we can get everyone playing at start of league as this has been a stumbling block in the past
We always beat Cavan?!  That is news to me!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 22, 2017, 02:42:24 AM
Yeah i wanna hear more about this
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on October 22, 2017, 12:17:32 PM
What happened the minor hurling final, I heard Lynch's won this but I see on Derry website that they conceded, maybe it's a typo?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Jimmy on October 22, 2017, 12:59:04 PM
Just a mistake on the website I assume. Kevin Lynch’s won 2-10 to 11 points according to the Kevin Lynch’s twitter account.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 22, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Congratulations to our under 21's winning  1-16 to 1-08 against Glenullin today , couple of knocks picked up which hopefully will be cleared up ahead of Belcoo game this weekend
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 23, 2017, 09:14:28 AM
What happened the minor hurling final, I heard Lynch's won this but I see on Derry website that they conceded, maybe it's a typo?

Nash was absolutely disgraceful I heard. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 23, 2017, 11:35:48 PM
What happened the minor hurling final, I heard Lynch's won this but I see on Derry website that they conceded, maybe it's a typo?

Nash was absolutely disgraceful I heard.
At least the standard of refereeing was the same then as the minor football final.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 24, 2017, 09:23:57 AM
I see the facebook live stream of the ulster camogie final was a big success but for some reason the hurling wasn't allowed to be shown. Was there an alternative live stream?

I recorded TG4's highlights show last night but it didn't show the ulster hurling final. Is it available anywhere else?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cuyahoga on October 24, 2017, 04:28:37 PM
<I see the facebook live stream of the ulster camogie final was a big success but for some reason the hurling wasn't allowed to be shown. Was there an alternative live stream?

I recorded TG4's highlights show last night but it didn't show the ulster hurling final. Is it available anywhere else?>

The commentator on the Facebook live stream of the Ulster Camogie Final, was terrible. He was constantly coming out with sickening shite and never shut his mouth. I had to turn the sound off.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 25, 2017, 12:27:49 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

High stool chat of Ciaran Meenagh and Marty Boyle returning to Screen. Personally would love to see it, but it's probably a load of balls.

Haven't heard of any other appointments.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 25, 2017, 01:02:45 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 25, 2017, 01:11:11 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 25, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Tagsman on October 25, 2017, 08:44:44 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

High stool chat of Ciaran Meenagh and Marty Boyle returning to Screen. Personally would love to see it, but it's probably a load of balls.

Haven't heard of any other appointments.



Strange comment after Screen getting to County final Phil??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on October 26, 2017, 09:18:28 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 26, 2017, 10:30:57 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

High stool chat of Ciaran Meenagh and Marty Boyle returning to Screen. Personally would love to see it, but it's probably a load of balls.

Haven't heard of any other appointments.



Strange comment after Screen getting to County final Phil??

On the face of it, yes.

However, Screen got to the County Final because of the effort and performances of players, not the management IMO.

Thought we were a better outfit under Meenagh and Boyle (who also got Screen to a County Final), and on a personal note, I have a lot of time for those two men.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 26, 2017, 10:32:21 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Explain.....
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 26, 2017, 11:00:34 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Explain.....

They had differences in their opinion on whether to bring Ronan Murphy back onto the panel when he walked away.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 26, 2017, 02:10:27 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: wide as a gate! on October 26, 2017, 02:16:37 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan
He will be a real boost for the Quigan team, a really good player. if my memory serves me right he played the most of his underage at the Cuigan before transferring to Mfelt around u16/minor age. a loss to the rossas for sure.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 26, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan
He will be a real boost for the Quigan team, a really good player. if my memory serves me right he played the most of his underage at the Cuigan before transferring to Mfelt around u16/minor age. a loss to the rossas for sure.

According to Rossa men won't be a massive loss. Walked off county panel 3/4 years back and ended up playing for Magherafelt 3rds for half a season. Think there was a lack of interest and is now living in the lough shore
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on October 26, 2017, 08:04:14 PM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 26, 2017, 10:33:24 PM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!

But most famous for slapping the big easy in the clinkers!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 27, 2017, 12:33:10 AM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!

But most famous for slapping the big easy in the clinkers!
Somethings you can forgive ... but not getting our Enda sent off.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 27, 2017, 08:04:21 AM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheOptimist on October 27, 2017, 08:20:14 AM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!

Thinking the same. If it is him, he was Jim McGuinness' captain at Glenties and very much of the same mindset. Not sure if that is what U17s need.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 27, 2017, 09:18:25 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan
He will be a real boost for the Quigan team, a really good player. if my memory serves me right he played the most of his underage at the Cuigan before transferring to Mfelt around u16/minor age. a loss to the rossas for sure.

According to Rossa men won't be a massive loss. Walked off county panel 3/4 years back and ended up playing for Magherafelt 3rds for half a season. Think there was a lack of interest and is now living in the lough shore

Heard something like this myself.

on another note kevin Coary & Paddy Gribben installed as the new loup management is an interesting one to say the least!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tothetop03 on October 27, 2017, 11:29:28 AM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager

Must be very recent i know a another Tyrone man they contacted on Tuesday...
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 27, 2017, 12:09:04 PM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager

Must be very recent i know a another Tyrone man they contacted on Tuesday...

He was announced at a committee meeting on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tothetop03 on October 27, 2017, 12:20:03 PM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager

Must be very recent i know a another Tyrone man they contacted on Tuesday...

He was announced at a committee meeting on Tuesday night.


Good enough a decent fella hope it works for him...
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on October 27, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
Refresh my memory here folks:

League promotion/relegation. Was it just 1up/1down this year or were there 2nd place/2nd bottom playoffs? If so, were those games played and who won?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 27, 2017, 07:12:17 PM
A blue nose has applied for the Swatragh senior footballers. I hope he doesn't get it.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Lowintothewind on October 27, 2017, 10:38:12 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Hearing Michael O'Kane has left Claudy after 3 years in charge.  Also been mentioned as the new U17 manager
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 27, 2017, 10:49:18 PM
Refresh my memory here folks:

League promotion/relegation. Was it just 1up/1down this year or were there 2nd place/2nd bottom playoffs? If so, were those games played and who won?
Just one up one down , no play offs
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on October 28, 2017, 12:12:37 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Hearing Michael O'Kane has left Claudy after 3 years in charge.  Also been mentioned as the new U17 manager

Is there anyone that hasn't been asked to take the u17s? Surely onto the 20th choice by now.

I believe Rooster not happy not being asked to take the u20s again. Smith couldn't run a bath. Embarrassing!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 01:39:29 AM
A blue nose has applied for the Swatragh senior footballers. I hope he doesn't get it.
What position has he applied for? Fullback?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on October 28, 2017, 06:54:14 PM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a ‘Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you’d have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 28, 2017, 07:21:01 PM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a ‘Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you’d have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.
2ND best team in Derry? Not a clue. What a ridiculous statement
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
Point down at half time but finished winning 3-16 to 1-09 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a ‘Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you’d have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.
Evenn with green tinted glasses  unfortunately I couldn't agree with you , heard a few of our boys have been called up though
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2017, 07:32:47 PM
Slaughtneil by a point at half time but Omagh have a strong wind in second half
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2017, 08:25:49 PM
Slaughtneil won by two, not a great game but a win is a win
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2017, 09:53:46 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
,   Conor Doherty is developing into a very good all round footballer ,Eamon Burke still a handful as well if we can get any sort of service to him
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on October 29, 2017, 02:42:45 AM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a ‘Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you’d have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.

To be fair your correct ......... only three Derry clubs training at the minute and I would rank Newbridge’s form second.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: In hiding on October 29, 2017, 04:08:03 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 10:35:16 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry
With totally unbalanced comments like above, maybe you should stay hidden. The Hideout in Maghera would be perfect.  Comment analysis suggests that you do "want to take ... away" from Slaughtneil's victory as no supporters were playing and that you are jealous. How many Tyrone clubs have even been in the All Ireland final, please remind us?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: In hiding on October 29, 2017, 10:41:50 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry
With totally unbalanced comments like above, maybe you should stay hidden. The Hideout in Maghera would be perfect.  Comment analysis suggests that you do "want to take ... away" from Slaughtneil's victory as no supporters were playing and that you are jealous. How many Tyrone clubs have even been in the All Ireland final, please remind us?
it's just a question. No need to be so precious
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 10:48:31 AM
And please remind the board of how many precious Tyrone clubs have played in All Ireland finals?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: In hiding on October 29, 2017, 12:50:46 PM
And please remind the board of how many precious Tyrone clubs have played in All Ireland finals?
wow you fairly put me in my box there.
Maybe that excellent slaughtneil side will go one step further than just playing in an all Ireland final this year
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: referee on October 29, 2017, 06:48:30 PM
Watched Kilcar today,PMcBrearty was pick of the talent on show and Kilcar seemed to want it more especially after about  the 20 min mark,i just think s/Neil will have the players to pick up the kilcar danger men and make another final as long as they can keep a fully fit team,very impressed by the way they never panicked especially when CMcK was black carded last night and seen the last 2/3 mins playing keep ball
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on October 29, 2017, 07:19:10 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 07:44:14 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??
As far as I am aware he is still injured. He also missed the Kilcoo game.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 29, 2017, 08:38:21 PM
if you think they are crazy now, should sent them in the 70`s lol
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 29, 2017, 08:42:39 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 09:16:24 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.
Agree totally. Could understand Omagh's defensiveness in first half against strong wind but throughout the second half as well? That was maybe their downfall as they even had Rodgers under pressure when they did attack.  In Bradley's absence thought McGuigan's free taking against wind was excellent - on his right side but very mature.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on October 29, 2017, 09:27:47 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.

He was a v good player but he’s done now. Now that he’s out of the team can’t see him getting his place back. They’re more than capable of winning without him.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 09:39:20 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.

He was a v good player but he’s done now. Now that he’s out of the team can’t see him getting his place back. They’re more than capable of winning without him.
Not sure about that!  I would still start him before Paudie.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on October 30, 2017, 11:05:00 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry

Yeah your right lad; they all speak a fecking weird language up there, whatever the feck it is.

Oh aye........ it’s our own native language.


Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: In hiding on October 30, 2017, 12:34:11 PM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry

Yeah your right lad; they all speak a fecking weird language up there, whatever the feck it is.

Oh aye........ it’s our own native language.

nah, heard plenty of words spoken and shouted alright but not one in our native language. anyways sorry I said anything about it. Really good side with passionate support. Leave it at that
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 30, 2017, 05:36:31 PM

For the last three years Damian McErlain  officially announced the names of his Minor panel for the following year's Ulster Minor competitions during the month of October. This  early, yearly announcement  was a hallmark of his ability to organise his players  in a thoroughly efficient manner which resulted in Derry reaching three successive Ulster finals and winning two of them,albeit with groups of very talented players. With a likely earlier start for the 2018 Ulster U17 championship it is imperative that the County Board make an announcement shortly as to who they are going to appoint as the County U17 manager.Perhaps they are having difficulty in getting a suitable candidate to follow in the very successful footsteps of McErlain.After two promising years with the U21  U21 side one also would have thought that
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 30, 2017, 05:44:47 PM
The gremlins got in the way of my last post!!!The complete last  line should have read.One would have thought that after two fairly successful years with the U21 County team that Fergal P McCusker would have been automatically selected as manager for the U20 team in 2018.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oneclubonelife on October 30, 2017, 06:15:17 PM
Rumour has it that the new U17 management team has been appointed and it is Paddy Campbell, think he managed Castledawson and Steelstown ,as the manager, and Fabian Muldoon and Ronan Rocks as the coaches / trainers. There is probably a few other faces in about the set up.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shantygael on November 05, 2017, 05:15:20 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start cost them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 05, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.

Was a great advert for junior hurling. Seriously good game.  Some heart from na magha to come back. Ref was brutal.  Setanta scorEd 12 frees. At least 7 of them very soft
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 05, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.

Was a great advert for junior hurling. Seriously good game.  Some heart from na magha to come back. Ref was brutal.  Setanta scorEd 12 frees. At least 7 of them very soft

Fair dues also to the Derry hurlers who picked up All Star awards in their own category.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 05, 2017, 08:36:03 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.

Was a great advert for junior hurling. Seriously good game.  Some heart from na magha to come back. Ref was brutal.  Setanta scorEd 12 frees. At least 7 of them very soft

Fair dues also to the Derry hurlers who picked up All Star awards in their own category.

Yep great achievement for them.  Quality is there
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2017, 09:15:28 PM
It always has been. It is channeling it has been the problem.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: North Man on November 07, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on November 08, 2017, 10:00:05 AM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.
Obviously hope they do well but not a fan of the Paddy Campbell appointment and can't understand why he was appointed.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: OakleafCounty on November 08, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 08, 2017, 11:26:41 AM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.

Ridiculous. Should have been kicked out of the club after that decision
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on November 08, 2017, 12:57:38 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.

Ridiculous. Should have been kicked out of the club after that decision

Good see a Slaughtmanus man getting ejected from the game for kicking a ball rather than kicking somebody.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on November 08, 2017, 01:00:24 PM
Remember talking to a club senior manager who had a player who was on the county team and U21 team at the same time in the recent past, that the players were told by the then current senior manager and also the u21 manager not to kick the ball either. Both have had successful management careers. glad to say the defensive tactics being employed by most teams at that time are changing.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 08, 2017, 03:44:37 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.

Ridiculous. Should have been kicked out of the club after that decision

Good see a Slaughtmanus man getting ejected from the game for kicking a ball rather than kicking somebody.

The main concern that I have about the u17 thing is the fact that there are 180 lads invited to trials. A lot of them are u15/16
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on November 08, 2017, 04:09:48 PM
I would love to see squad numbers brought in to u17s this year, just to see Kosta Papachristopolas on the back of a jersey!

Plays for Ballerin
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on November 08, 2017, 04:28:34 PM
I would love to see squad numbers brought in to u17s this year, just to see Kosta Papachristopolas on the back of a jersey!

Plays for Ballerin

If he makes a starting team it will be some challenge getting his name written in Irish .... that's maybe a job for Gregory !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: North Man on November 08, 2017, 04:32:31 PM
I cannot understand that some clubs have forwarded a bus load of lads to a trial that is going to be cut after one game.
Waste of a heap of clean jerseys

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 08, 2017, 04:38:26 PM
I would love to see squad numbers brought in to u17s this year, just to see Kosta Papachristopolas on the back of a jersey!

Plays for Ballerin

V common surname round Ballerin tbf
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mario on November 08, 2017, 06:42:53 PM
In the words of Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh.  His mother's from Ballerin, his father's from Greece, neither a footballing stronghold.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 08, 2017, 06:55:47 PM
Think his granda used to own the laundrette in Eastenders afaik
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on November 09, 2017, 10:35:15 AM
See Enda Muldoon and Honda are taking Banagher this year.
Michael O'Kane is taking Swatragh too having left Claudy.

Like Paddy Bradley last year, Enda is probably taking the club with the best chance of winning this coming year.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 09, 2017, 11:08:35 AM
See Enda Muldoon and Honda are taking Banagher this year.
Michael O'Kane is taking Swatragh too having left Claudy.

Like Paddy Bradley last year, Enda is probably taking the club with the best chance of winning this coming year.

Must be very similar to Paddy Bradley last year because Enda Muldoon is currently training with Ballinderry for the incoming season.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on November 09, 2017, 08:49:44 PM
Folks ... who is Honda?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 09, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
To answer Real Talk's query as to the identity of new Banagher joint manager - known as Honda - according to Michael McMullan of Derry Now he is Declan Mullan from Banagher itself.The man who links up with the legendary Enda Muldoon specialises in Strength and Conditioning and coached Glenullin last year under their manager Liam Bradley.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 10, 2017, 09:08:00 AM
To answer Real Talk's query as to the identity of new Banagher joint manager - known as Honda - according to Michael McMullan of Derry Now he is Declan Mullan from Banagher itself.The man who links up with the legendary Enda Muldoon specialises in Strength and Conditioning and coached Glenullin last year under their manager Liam Bradley.

Anthony Begley also in with Banagher. Strange having 2 men that specialise in Strength and Conditioning.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 10, 2017, 11:55:43 AM
Looks like the legend Enda Muldoon has played his last game of football. Originally showed up to Ballinderry's start of season meeting a couple of Sunday's ago raring for another year of football at 40 years of age. But has apparently changed his mind and will not combine playing with managing unlike Paddy Bradley last year.

Going to miss Enda as he was an absolute joy to watch. Ballindery will miss him even more so as he was still a massive player for them. I wonder will deets (wasn't at the Ballinderry meeting) and a few other older fella's call it a day aswell as he was recently linked with a position in the Sligo backroom team, heard very good reports on his training style from Coalisland fellas.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 10, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
Seeing that we have good Ballinderry men involved both with the Derry  Senior  County team and Derry U17 side for 2018 what are the chances of another Shamrocks man being involved with the County U20 side for next year?

Hopefully the current impasse in selecting a manager for that team will be resolved soon.As I said before most ordinary Derry supporters would have expected that Fergal P McCusker would have been reappointed for a third term.After all he did trojan work with the last two U21 teams,bringing them to this year's Ulster final.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 11, 2017, 11:19:28 PM
In the words of Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh.  His mother's from Ballerin, his father's from Greece, neither a footballing stronghold.

MÓM would have more respect. Ballerin were Ulster Club Senior Football Champions and reached the All Ireland Final.

Same as Slaughtneil who were superb tonight against a class Kilcar team. Game of the year.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on November 12, 2017, 01:27:20 PM
Half time in Armagh ,Bridge 0-07 Moy 0-04
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on November 12, 2017, 02:07:22 PM
Never got going in second half beat 2-15 to 1-09
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on November 12, 2017, 03:22:05 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 12, 2017, 04:00:27 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.

In fact, it isn't even a parish!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on November 13, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
Really good game on Saturday evening, quality football with lots of scores and a belter of a goal from Shea. Hard to see the Nailers not winning Ulster, and good luck to them. However a few points, I though Kilcar left it behind them, never seen the Nailers get cut open so often in one game, the amount of goal chances that Kilcar missed would have gotten them over the line. Rodgers was destroyed by Mc Beraty who is a class footballer. Karl did a super job on ryan Mc Hugh who I think is over rated, it Donegals style that allows him to play, when man against man he is always subdued. Apart from marking him out of the game Karl contributed to the Nailers attacking game.  Feeney also marked Eoin Mc Hugh well, except on the kick outs where Feeneys lack of physically was exposed. Tadd, Mc Grath, the two Chrisys also played well, but Mc Mullan was the start of the game for me. Finally Chrissys goal should have been disallowed as he did not flick the ball to the net, he threw it.  Great entertainment.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 13, 2017, 06:12:45 PM
Letting McBearty scoring 5pts no matter how good he is, would be a worry down the line
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 13, 2017, 09:17:07 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.
I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 13, 2017, 09:35:52 PM
Rodgers v McBrearty was a fantastic battle on Saturday. In the first 15 minutes Rodgers went one to one and beat him to every ball. Three Kilcar players in a row tried to take Rodgers out as he tore up the sideline, McBrearty with a punch to the ribs, Hegarty with a fist to his face and Eoin McHugh with some sort of a karate kick attempt to the head. Second 15 McBrearty won, although Rodgers was taken out by McGinley as he tried to stop McBrearty scoring from play. Nothing should take away from an outstanding performance by our County and Ulster Champions, against the odds at halftime with O'Dohery gone.  Kilcar did not leave it behind, Slaughtneil went for in the second half and won it with top class football.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on November 14, 2017, 10:27:59 AM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.
I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?
it is very simple. It is unusual for "all" the Derry club sides to reach the semifinals of Ulster in the same year,so that means it is a better year. I'm dissapointed both Newbridge and Doire Trasna lost because I want Derry teams of all descriptions winning.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 14, 2017, 10:56:32 AM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.
I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?
it is very simple. It is unusual for "all" the Derry club sides to reach the semifinals of Ulster in the same year,so that means it is a better year. I'm dissapointed both Newbridge and Doire Trasna lost because I want Derry teams of all descriptions winning.
How did our representatives all do last year?
slaughtneil won ulster and only for an unfortunate sending off would likely be reigning all Ireland champions. Castledawson put up a brave show against a very strong Pomeroy outfit, and Magilligan were beat in a quarter final??
Sorry I stand corrected. Much better year for Derry football on the back of our junior champs going one round further  ::)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: RedandBlacks on November 14, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on November 14, 2017, 12:29:55 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on November 14, 2017, 01:09:58 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.
I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?
it is very simple. It is unusual for "all" the Derry club sides to reach the semifinals of Ulster in the same year,so that means it is a better year. I'm dissapointed both Newbridge and Doire Trasna lost because I want Derry teams of all descriptions winning.
How did our representatives all do last year?
slaughtneil won ulster and only for an unfortunate sending off would likely be reigning all Ireland champions. Castledawson put up a brave show against a very strong Pomeroy outfit, and Magilligan were beat in a quarter final??
Sorry I stand corrected. Much better year for Derry football on the back of our junior champs going one round further  ::)
it is alright. And 2008 was 9 yrs ago RnB. I was in my prime in 2008. I thought it was a better year,it was my opinion, I'm hopeful our county is improving and next year we improve again
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on November 14, 2017, 01:15:41 PM
We have only ever won the Ulster Intermediate club championship 3 times and have never won the Ulster Junior club so progress in these competitions can only be encouraged.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: RedandBlacks on November 14, 2017, 01:48:47 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.


Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on November 14, 2017, 01:53:22 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on November 14, 2017, 07:05:50 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.


Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan

Marty Carey captained Greenlough in the final. He is playing for John Mitchels in Liverpool now.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on November 14, 2017, 07:29:48 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.


Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan

Marty Carey captained Greenlough in the final. He is playing for John Mitchels in Liverpool now.

Where did it all go wrong Marty?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on November 15, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 15, 2017, 11:25:29 AM
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!

I believe it is the same as normal in club scene eg. u12, u14, u16, minors(u18). Only being county minors is changed to u17 and county u21s is changed to u20's.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on November 15, 2017, 12:11:42 PM
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!

I believe it is the same as normal in club scene eg. u12, u14, u16, minors(u18). Only being county minors is changed to u17 and county u21s is changed to u20's.
I don't think it's been decided yet afaik. I think there is to be a meeting about it. Would probably make sense to change to the U11/13/15/17/20 age groups because of the minor age change. Don't see how/why it would be a headache?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 15, 2017, 12:51:11 PM
Well if u have U 17 county and club stays at U 16 and U 18 there would probably be a knock on effect for both these grades getting games played which would not have been such a big impact previously.  I predict that grades at club will change to U17 and U15 etc this incoming year.  Decision is to be made in next couple of weeks afaik. Ps I think this change at national level is a load of bollocks.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on November 15, 2017, 01:03:28 PM
If there is a change this year it is would be a travesty. It would be typical of the culture within the Gaa currently whereby the club player is treated like shite. The season past when every one knew it was the last season of inter count u18 level, an u17 com po was ran to ensure those players at u17 would not be forgotten about. But here in Derrty are you suggesting that next seasons u18 players should be dispensed with, without any consideration of a ‘gap’ year for them. For some that would no minor this season as they weren’t good enough to get on this years u18 team, and if this crap is pushed through, no football this incoming season as they will be playing- sorry training at u20 level.

At county level the players were treated with respect, but the Club player can go f**k them selves.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on November 15, 2017, 01:31:47 PM
If there is a change this year it is would be a travesty. It would be typical of the culture within the Gaa currently whereby the club player is treated like shite. The season past when every one knew it was the last season of inter count u18 level, an u17 com po was ran to ensure those players at u17 would not be forgotten about. But here in Derrty are you suggesting that next seasons u18 players should be dispensed with, without any consideration of a ‘gap’ year for them. For some that would no minor this season as they weren’t good enough to get on this years u18 team, and if this crap is pushed through, no football this incoming season as they will be playing- sorry training at u20 level.

At county level the players were treated with respect, but the Club player can go f**k them selves.
Not sure who this is aimed at but no, as per above, nothing has been agreed as of yet. A 'gap' year could be an option or a bigger emphasis on U20. Also, if the age groups stay as is the clubs are more likely to be adversely affected as it could mean cancellations of u16 and u18 games if the county U17s are successful. It probably makes most sense to align the age groups with county for down the line.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 15, 2017, 02:49:15 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 15, 2017, 03:01:30 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

All to do with leaving cert down south. By lowering the age to u17 this means that the majority of players will no longer be trying to play county minor the same year as their leaving cert exams. Its a Player welfare thing that I'm sure most of the genius posters on here will complain about anyway.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 15, 2017, 04:15:47 PM
I think this consultation process is being run at Ulster level.

I wasn't suggesting what should be done just giving my (worthless) opinion as to what will happen. If this alignment doesnt happen this year it will definitely happen next year. And it will of course mean that players in their last year of U18 minor will miss out on their last year of underage, either this year or next, which is an inevitable consequence of this change. As I said earlier its a load of crap imo.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on November 15, 2017, 08:40:02 PM
No matter what way it goes there is going to be serious implications! Under 20s is going to be the biggest problem to solve. This is the age that there is the biggest drop of rate! At the minute I can't see a lot of teams being able to field on a consistent basis.  It will certainly take a few years to bed into place.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on November 15, 2017, 11:10:53 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

Agree Toby

.... U17's probably geared to suit the school system on the southern side of what will be the 'new hard border' dividing this island

.... the U20's  I just don't know
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 15, 2017, 11:31:31 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

Agree Toby

.... U17's probably geared to suit the school system on the southern side of what will be the 'new hard border' dividing this island

.... the U20's  I just don't know

Was the MacRory Cup not geared at under 18 and a half once to suit the school system in Ulster? Does U17 not benefit the whole island? No division.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 03:25:39 PM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 03:45:00 PM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 09:34:25 PM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
We all know that the biggest drop off in the gaa happens between the ages of 17 - 20.  There are a few obvious reasons for this. Most players who are likely to play senior club football are either playing or pushing hard to make the senior team by 19/20. Many players who are just not talented enough at this age often try other sports or interests. Also around this age boys prioritise other things in their lives such as jobs, education,  social life, women etc and good luck to them. Committing to an amateur sport and dedicating yourself to it just isn't for everyone.
Must admit that I agree totally with the shift from u21 to u20 but personally I'm not so sure about moving u18 to u17. I feel this is too young for competitive county football but I can understand why the change has been made at this age.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 17, 2017, 08:31:50 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.

Yeah I already knew that. I was pointing out that that it was the same whether doing leaving cert or A level in response to someone saying it favoured 26 co minors.

I havent a clue what ur comments are about. Don't think u do either.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 17, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.

Yeah I already knew that. I was pointing out that that it was the same whether doing leaving cert or A level in response to someone saying it favoured 26 co minors.

I havent a clue what ur comments are about. Don't think u do either.

Apologies Keyser I picked you up wrong there. Your point is indeed a valid one.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on November 17, 2017, 09:25:46 PM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.

Yeah I already knew that. I was pointing out that that it was the same whether doing leaving cert or A level in response to someone saying it favoured 26 co minors.

I havent a clue what ur comments are about. Don't think u do either.

Apologies Keyser I picked you up wrong there. Your point is indeed a valid one.

Micky donnelly from aghaloo is the new u20 manager for derry.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on November 17, 2017, 11:28:47 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 18, 2017, 12:48:14 PM
Has Derry's new  U20 football manager Mickey Donnelly of Tyrone  announced his back room team?

Hopefully included will be some very able and talented Derry men with vision and footballing expertise - especially in the tactics and coaching know how of the modern game - to supplement the excellent C.V of the Aughnacloy man.

It is vital that the great work of the past three years of Damian McErlain and his Minor management team be built upon and developed properly so that the players can seamlessly move forward from being good minors and through  the ranks of the U20's onto Senior inter county standard.

I am sure an Provincial  title  will be the aim of the new U20 management team.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 18, 2017, 02:17:23 PM
Joe isn't happy - and he's stopping giving money to Club Derry

https://twitter.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/931887386367324161
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 18, 2017, 04:33:17 PM
for years good underage coaching in Derry has been ignored, greed or people needing to add to their income due to personal reasons means many good coaches are all outside the county or been paid alot by club teams in the county means these 2 teams where ignored for a no of years at minor and u-21, abit of outside intervention may improve the standards  of underage teams.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TROUSERS on November 18, 2017, 08:06:21 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.

Who like?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 18, 2017, 09:17:47 PM
Joe isn't happy - and he's stopping giving money to Club Derry

https://twitter.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/931887386367324161

Joe is generally unhappy and has been for a number of years. Pretend loyalty may fool you but not those who know that Joe will implode very soon, probably live on RTÉ.  Club Derry will be all the richer without him. Joe, who craves to be one of the lads but never was and never will be so he makes more noise to get more attention.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Tagsman on November 18, 2017, 09:21:40 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.


Who are they? Can’t think of any Derry men in throne apart from Barton?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2017, 09:25:01 PM
Paddy crozier?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 18, 2017, 09:32:57 PM
Paddy crozier?
Paddy was with Omagh and Damien Cassidy was with Clonoe.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on November 18, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.


Who are they? Can’t think of any Derry men in throne apart from Barton?

Off the top of my head in the last few seasons there's been barton, crozier, cassidy, boyle, mcguckin, gilligan, conway and devlin at least. There may have been more.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mikhailov on November 18, 2017, 10:12:28 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.


Who are they? Can’t think of any Derry men in throne apart from Barton?

Off the top of my head in the last few seasons there's been barton, crozier, cassidy, boyle, mcguckin and devlin at least. There may have been more.

Who are Boyle, McGuckian and Devlin?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on November 19, 2017, 01:42:44 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.


Who are they? Can’t think of any Derry men in throne apart from Barton?

Off the top of my head in the last few seasons there's been barton, crozier, cassidy, boyle, mcguckin and devlin at least. There may have been more.

Who are Boyle, McGuckian and Devlin?

It's mcguckin not mcguckian. That'd be ronan, also fintan devlin at errigal. Mckindless and gormley are 2 others who've managed tyrone clubs in very recent times.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Glenman93 on November 19, 2017, 02:18:47 PM

Don’t listen to fake news. From a very reliable source not a single Derry club put forward a candidate for either U17 or U20 manager. They were given six weeks to discuss and nominate but none came back with a name.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 19, 2017, 06:28:46 PM

Don’t listen to fake news. From a very reliable source not a single Derry club put forward a candidate for either U17 or U20 manager. They were given six weeks to discuss and nominate but none came back with a name.
Are you referring to Brolly fake news?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on November 19, 2017, 09:30:07 PM
Has Derry's new  U20 football manager Mickey Donnelly of Tyrone  announced his back room team?

Hopefully included will be some very able and talented Derry men with vision and footballing expertise - especially in the tactics and coaching know how of the modern game - to supplement the excellent C.V of the Aughnacloy man.
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It is vital that the great work of the past three years of Damian McErlain and his Minor management team be built upon and developed properly so that the players can seamlessly move forward from being good minors and through  the ranks of the U20's onto Senior inter county standard.

I am sure an Provincial  title  will be the aim of the new U20 management team.
Excellent CV???????
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on November 20, 2017, 11:15:10 AM

Don’t listen to fake news. From a very reliable source not a single Derry club put forward a candidate for either U17 or U20 manager. They were given six weeks to discuss and nominate but none came back with a name.

That annual system that the C B use to get Managers nominated hasn't worked and wont get the best candidate ... mainly because most Clubs don't care .... or which has often been the case when they do put in a nomination it isn't even acknowledged. 

When the CB (maybe just the Chairman !!!) has someone in mind he then gets a Club/Clubs to nominate him/them to make it look as though the system works. 

What is really needed is a sub committee officially appointed by the CB (not Club Derry) to recommend a list of suitable candidates for all teams.  The CB should then arrange a process to select the best candidate with the sub-committee have representation on that selection process.

This should be completed in September/October each year
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on November 20, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
Personally I think it was about time Fergal parted ways. Under21s in the past few seasons have done decent but didn't reach their actual targets. Fergal had a number of top calibre of player at his disposal and was twice outclassed by Donegal.  One thing Fergal did have was a top coach in Big Enda. I think its a must for the new setup to get in a Derry man with calibre of Enda and one that they will fully respect. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on November 20, 2017, 03:56:05 PM
Both Fergal and Enda are Derry legends, so full respect to both, but as Enda being a 1st class coach, totally without foundation yet (has the personality for it), surely if he was coach to the u21s last season he is as culpable as the manager??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 20, 2017, 04:17:09 PM
Re the appointment of a highly respected former Derry player to new U20  County manager Mickey Donnnelly's backroom team I think it is highly unlikely that Enda Mulddon, if asked, would take up the post for two practical reasons.

Firstly he would probably not do so out of a sense of loyalty to Fergal McCusker with whom he worked with last year and secondly and more importantly he probably would not be available to do so as he has been appointed joint manager of Banagher club side.

Nevertheless for the future good of Derry football it is imperative that a backroom team with a highly respected and capable  backroom team is assembled quickly so that the excellent underage work of the last three years is developed and built upon.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on November 20, 2017, 06:38:41 PM
Both Fergal and Enda are Derry legends, so full respect to both, but as Enda being a 1st class coach, totally without foundation yet (has the personality for it), surely if he was coach to the u21s last season he is as culpable as the manager??

I wouldn't say that.. the manager is the one that implements the playing style and the one who makes the decisions on the starting 15. From what I seen of the under 21s they often didn't know what style of football they were trying to play. I think that fergal was out done by opposition tactics. As for big enda.. by no means is he the finished article as a manager/coach.. and he will learn a lot from his time at banager but as a player he was a master at the basic skills to the highest degree and in his coaching he brings those basics to the forefront
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on November 20, 2017, 08:15:40 PM
Are you saying a manager wouldn't consult with his coach 're s playing style or on occasions team selection? Or would you be one of these managers who wants to do it all yourself?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on November 20, 2017, 08:27:45 PM
Both Fergal and Enda are Derry legends, so full respect to both, but as Enda being a 1st class coach, totally without foundation yet (has the personality for it), surely if he was coach to the u21s last season he is as culpable as the manager??

I wouldn't say that.. the manager is the one that implements the playing style and the one who makes the decisions on the starting 15. From what I seen of the under 21s they often didn't know what style of football they were trying to play. I think that fergal was out done by opposition tactics. As for big enda.. by no means is he the finished article as a manager/coach.. and he will learn a lot from his time at banager but as a player he was a master at the basic skills to the highest degree and in his coaching he brings those basics to the forefront

Just out of curiosity what do you think the role of the coach(es) is at county if it isn’t to coach a system of play for defense and offence and coach kick out strategy.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on November 20, 2017, 09:57:31 PM
Well yes in normal circumstances the coach will be implementing the managers style of play. In this case however I don't think they were singing of the same hymn sheet.  Whether they did or they didn't agree and coach the same style of football , they failed at winning an Ulster title and county needed to go in a new direction!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 22, 2017, 09:44:11 AM
Well if you are the manager and the coach is not implementing your style of play you don't just plough on regardless....you get a new coach.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on November 23, 2017, 01:09:20 PM
Rest in peace Frankie kearney.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: sensethetone on November 23, 2017, 01:33:48 PM
Rest in peace Frankie kearney.
Was he the principle in Holy Trinity?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 23, 2017, 02:30:17 PM
The late Frankie Kearney who died this morning was a great Gael - loyal Glen club man and committed Derry County supporter.He was an outstanding Manager of Derrry in the 1970's and he and his terrific bunch of players shared many great victories at  Provincial level.

He will always be remembered with great fondness for designing the crest for the Derry County jersey and all County GAA official insignia.

He was also a skilled organiser at County Board level and his meticulous attention to his financial duties as Ciste Gael  coordinator will never be forgotten.

For many years he was the highly respected Principal of Holy Trinity College in Cookstown.Deepest sympathy to all  his family and the Glen club in particular.

Rest in peace dear friend. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 24, 2017, 01:13:35 AM
Sorry to hear of Frankie's death, he taught in St. Paul's, Kilrea, for many years also. Derry manager for back to back Ulster titles in 75/76 and indeed a great Gael. Many of the players on those teams would attribute their senior success to Frankie's vision and leadership - and at a very difficult political time trying to bring men from the Bogside and South Derry together to train. He was a font of knowledge re all things GAA and I think he was on the Glen team which won the All Ireland Scór Quiz in the 70s. I measc laochra na nGael go raibh a anam Gaelach.