Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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LeoMc

Quote from: square_ball on June 19, 2023, 07:01:34 AM
It wasn't a penalty lads.
The foul "denying a goal scoring opportunity" does not have to occur in the rectangle to iresult in a penalty.

Are you saying Kilpatrick wasn't denied a goal scoring opportunity.

square_ball

Quote from: LeoMc on June 19, 2023, 07:25:44 AM
Quote from: square_ball on June 19, 2023, 07:01:34 AM
It wasn't a penalty lads.
The foul "denying a goal scoring opportunity" does not have to occur in the rectangle to iresult in a penalty.

Are you saying Kilpatrick wasn't denied a goal scoring opportunity.

It has to be a black card offence. Which one was it?

I've said it on another thread it was cynical as hell but under the current rules the referee was right. It's a failure of the rules in that particular situation.

LeoMc

Quote from: square_ball on June 19, 2023, 08:00:14 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on June 19, 2023, 07:25:44 AM
Quote from: square_ball on June 19, 2023, 07:01:34 AM
It wasn't a penalty lads.
The foul "denying a goal scoring opportunity" does not have to occur in the rectangle to iresult in a penalty.

Are you saying Kilpatrick wasn't denied a goal scoring opportunity.

It has to be a black card offence. Which one was it?

I've said it on another thread it was cynical as hell but under the current rules the referee was right. It's a failure of the rules in that particular situation.

I would have said it was "to deliberately pull down an opponent". He caught Kilpatrick round the shoulder and brought him to the ground.

square_ball

That's not a pull down as per the black card rule. If they want to go down the road of giving a penalty for fouls outside the square then they need to update the rule to allow for fouls like yesterday.

God14

37 different players have played for Tyrone this year. Something not right there

Onthe40

battle royal now next weekend...

hard to see anything but the campaign coming to an end within the next 2 weeks

square_ball

I think we can sneak the win in Ballybofey but Donegal will definitely be fancying their chances after seeing yesterday. After that then who knows. As usual we are mixing the good with the bad during games.

LeoMc

Quote from: square_ball on June 19, 2023, 08:18:32 AM
That's not a pull down as per the black card rule. If they want to go down the road of giving a penalty for fouls outside the square then they need to update the rule to allow for fouls like yesterday.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 19, 2023, 08:21:00 AM
That's not a deliberate pull down. It was a high tackle. That's not a black card anywhere else on the field.

The problem is the rule.
The other problem is that the ref appears to be in a tiny minority that actually knows the rule.

Every day is a school day.

clarshack

Quote from: Onthe40 on June 19, 2023, 09:50:24 AM
battle royal now next weekend...

hard to see anything but the campaign coming to an end within the next 2 weeks

Donegal are up and running again and it's hard to see a Tyrone win tbh.

Aaron Boone

Donegal could be the Ulster team to get the furtherest in the Championship.

tyrone08

Think Donegal will hammer tyrone. We have been very poor this last 2 years and something needs to change.

Jerome

Quote from: tyrone08 on June 19, 2023, 10:19:31 AM
Think Donegal will hammer tyrone. We have been very poor this last 2 years and something needs to change.

Donegal won't hammer anyone.

Tyrone by 4.

Redhand Santa

Like all season there was some good elements to yesterday and nice passages of play but poor for periods as well which won't cut it at this level.

Management are going to have to realise that what we are doing isn't working. Going to have to put in place a system like the Kerry league game and tighten up the defence. Also have to get a new plan on opposition kickouts. There is zero point in half pressing and leaving some men free. It either has to be a full press with Morgan out and making sure we are at least competing for possession or else concede the kickout. There is no point having 5/6 men pressed up the pitch with one opposition player getting easily free and then being out of position.

We can certainly beat Donegal but it's going to take an increase in intensity and desire and a change or two. We also have to look at how we are using the bench. Too many players coming on making too little impact and weakening the team.


God14

Quote from: Redhand Santa on June 19, 2023, 10:36:35 AM
Like all season there was some good elements to yesterday and nice passages of play but poor for periods as well which won't cut it at this level.

Management are going to have to realise that what we are doing isn't working. Going to have to put in place a system like the Kerry league game and tighten up the defence. Also have to get a new plan on opposition kickouts. There is zero point in half pressing and leaving some men free. It either has to be a full press with Morgan out and making sure we are at least competing for possession or else concede the kickout. There is no point having 5/6 men pressed up the pitch with one opposition player getting easily free and then being out of position.

We can certainly beat Donegal but it's going to take an increase in intensity and desire and a change or two. We also have to look at how we are using the bench. Too many players coming on making too little impact and weakening the team.

Conceded 1-18 against Monaghan. Conceded 18 points again yesterday. No lessons learnt.  Its been clear for quite some time, that this management duo are unable to set us up defensively.