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Why talk of the end of an era for Tyrone? Most of the old guys are gone and there is a good scattering of youth in the team with a strong youthfull bench. The start of an era for Tyrone I think.

Exactly - the average age of the likely starting XV will be 26! Such lazy analysis, and watch spillane & co spout this theory come the weekend.
As regards the end of an era, regardless of the result I dont buy into that at all. Bear in mind the likes of Kyle Coney & Ronan O'Neill etc will be available next year, Conor Clark a 20 year old at Full back, Darren McCurry making a claim now at 19. Loads of good talent there, nice blend of experience as well...

Packie, 31
McCrory, 24
Clarke, 20
Carlin, 29 - 27
Cathal McCarron, 26- i think he is 23 or 24
Gormley, 31
Sean O'Neill, 25
Colm Cavanagh, 26
Joe McMahon, 29 - 28
Ronan McNabb, 22
Peter Harte, 22
Mark Donnelly, 28 - 26
Mulligan, 30
SON, 31
Penrose, 29 - 27

Average / Mean = 26

As well as the young players already mentioned Mattie Donnelly and Niall McKenna have been getting a good bit of game time this year and are only early twenties too.  Its easy to say that the new players coming through aren't as good as the 03-08 brigade, but it takes any new up and coming young player a season or two to establish themselves at senior intercounty level.  The late 90's minor batch took a few years before they became real stand out players, and it all came together in 2003.  The current young players coming through have all the same pedigree as SON, BmG, Hub, Cormac, Jordan etc did when they came onto the scene, time will tell how the newest group pan out but it doesn't happen over night.

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You have a few ages wrong there. The team is even younger than that

Clonoe v Dromore this sunday. :0

Such a crappy topic, how boring. Use would be good experts

Clowns, maybe im a good club man of one of them particular people i have mentioned, them 3 have had a very good league. Would you not agree ?

Yeah how did you guess

Who's is the candidates for player of the league. Tyrone and Kildare have to have a few

Tyrone:
Peter Harte
Cathal McCarron
Kyle Cooney

Kildare:
O'Flaherty
Lyons
Conway

Any others or what does people think ?

What kinda of crap are you talking. Mickey will want to win every game that comes Tyrone's way if your thinking anything else your a bigger fool than i thought.

Mickey will stick to the team thats winning and playing well. Davy Harte is so far down the list now, mccarron & petey harte will of course be in that half back line. Been very impressive, hard to know with midfield so competitive.

The way Conor Clarke played he might not be

National league starts back this weekend. What is peoples views on this one. Should be an easy win for Tyrone on paper !!

mccarron is playing great stuff at half back. Suits him out there. Petey at number 11 would be better i think still tho. Big game on sunday against our old foes Derry. We would better not slip up or last weekend would be for nothing

Tyrone team Against Kildare National league people ??

Wouldn't say it's overly strong. I'd be worried about both defensive wings.

Why is this ?

Cheers FoSB.

So are we any the wiser for a new FB or MF?
Will we see Justy there again for the summer if he's fit or will it be McCarron or Clarke?

What's the story with McCaul? He played in the Antrim game didn't he?
How did he do? There seems good competition all over the pitch now.

How about these forward lines?

Old School

Mugsy      SoN           Mark Donnelly

Sean     Tommy      Penrose     

  or new school...

RoN                 J Lafferty     Matthew Donnelly

P.Hughes          P.Harte       Coney     


I think you'd need a mixture of both experience and youth in the forward line. I know the younger ones are still learning but until the old hands came on yesterday we had no players stepping up and taking the scores.

Mugsy             Penrose    Sean

Mark Donnelly    SoN      RoN 

With Mattie, lafferty and coney having game time.


   Whats the crack with the size of panels for the mc kenna cup. I seen the lists of 26 but tyrone have already played 4 guys that were'nt named on the original 26. Has anyone else noticed this. Is this another case of MH doing it his way and not ulster councils.

A few players have been injured, cassidy and the likes so cathal mccarron and mugsy where brought in. Im not sure if big joe was named in original panel so someone else must have been ommitted from the panel yesterday.

Not sure about Clarke yet not played bad in 2 games he has played in but seems a wee bit raw yet. As for Justy seems to be unfit or has he just lost his form that made him an all star? McCarron playing half back at minute and is playing very very well weather Harte will keep him there is another question, maybe needed in full back line ? lots of questions plenty of time for answers

3 Quigley brothers from Roslea Shamrocks who have won back to back championships in Fermanagh and the double last season. Conor oldest (about 26 I think) then Seamy is about 23/24 and Sean is 19/20. All good footballers on their day, Conor being a back is most under rated out of the 3, Seamy is an enigma, quality footballer who comes with a hot temper.

Seamy Quigley undoubtedly is the best forward in Fermanagh in terms of talent (what has he scored in the McKenn cup 2-21 in 3 games?) but can Canavan get him to knuckle down and stay committed all year?

Dont forget most of them scores are from free kicks..

Last night all he scored was 1 point from play and apart from score frees didnt do apile only trying to shove is fat ass around.

Tyrone McKenna Cup Squad Announced

1 Dermot Carlin –  Coill an Chlochair
2 Aidan Cassidy – Eochar
3 Colm Cavanagh – An Mhaigh
4 Conor Clarke – An Omaigh
5 Kyle Coney – Ard Bó
6 John Devine – Aireagal Chiaráin
7 Matthew Donnelly – Trí Leac
8 Ciaran Gervin – Doire Locháin
9 Peter Harte  - Aireagal Chiaráin
10 Peter Hughes – Eiscreach
11 Jonathan Lafferty – Urnaí
12 Damian McCaul – Domhnach Mór
13 Aidan McCrory – Aireagal Chiaráin
14 Niall McKenna – Domhnach Mór
15 Justin McMahon – An Omaigh
16 Tommy McGuigan – Ard Bó
17 Ronan McNabb – An Droim Mhór
18 Stephen McNally – Oileán a'Ghuail
19 Ronan McNamee – Achadh Uí Aráin
20 Patrick McNiece – Oileán a'Ghuail
21 Stephen McNulty – Cluain Eo
22 Michael Murphy – An Gallbhaile
23 Ronan O'Neill – An Omaigh
24 Sean O'Neill – An Droim Mhór
25 Martin Penrose – Achadh Uí Aráin
26 PJ Quinn – Baile na Móna

http://www.tyronegaa.ie/2011/12/mckenna-cup-squad-announced/

No Carmen men on the squad?? Understandable that the block is being rested but where's Mark Donnelly?

Harte can only name a 26 man squad so Mark along with others are being rested ie Joe McMahon, Owen Mulligan, Davy Harte, Big Packie, Cathal McCarron, Ryan McMenamin