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Where has the 250k figure come from? Who came up with that?

From their main contributor over the years. 

[not paying their own guys]

Fair play to creggan? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money.

Like who? The only one I can think of his Adrian Dougan.

What's the salary these days for a club manager. Admire LD for not paying their own guys on principle

If you have to admire a club for this then we are all up the creek.

Teams pay for strength and conditioning and no complaints. Why is it an issue paying a manager to supply a service. Antrim is an unsuccessful county and have not to many experienced managers but more a case of pass the baton to a club man who wants to give it a go.  Teams are fully entitled to covers a managers cost and this is not entirely a negative but more so they want to prosper and make their club better.  The gaa on a whole does not run on air. Plenty of people outside of managers are getting big salaries for little effort and at least a manager can be held accountable. Maybe if we paid an outsider to push the casement bid from the start we would be getting places.

Fair play to creggan? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money. 

Could not agree more around the venue.  The first location was ahoghil as it accommodates a crowd and attracts the derry supporters who would have interests in both teams.  Glenavy was the second option based on past few years but parking an issue and may as well travel to belfast.  Portglenone could hold claims to it as well - great setup.

Two good teams, two good managers, parish derby.   tick, tick, tick

creggan surely be favourites going in.  Consistent all year - o cahan cup and pretty much league in bag also.  They work hard at a defensive system leaking little but cargin have plenty of talent to counteract this.  Was chatting to quite a few creggan players and they have it in the bag already which may be their undoing.  I heard whimpers of st johns for final location. 

The conditions were horrendous.  exceptionally strong wind which tends to keep it a low scoring affair.  St Johns had chances to put pressure on without a doubt but it would of been a huge upset if the nipped it at the end.  Creggan maintained that gap fighting against a strong wind.  St johns left one man up and should of went for broke but did not.  Fitzpatrick was a big threat.

Cargin v St Galls was a wonderful game.  Credit to both teams and creggans pitch looked in fantastic shape.
Creggan got by st Johns without too much worry -  hard to determine outcome of final but it should not be lacking intensity.

LD made great comeback, ok a soft first goal but second was well finished by Paddy C.  They miss conor murray hugely.  Mick mccann kept that cargin team in the game second half - crozier very solid.   Any update on replay venue?

Glenavy was in fantastic shape yesterday.  Contender for final.  Magill should of walked after 2 minutes.  Cargin impressive for periods.  St Johns i expected more from.

Sad to say it but there is no team in the county near cargin at the minute - was at both games at the weekend and cant see how LD will cause them any bother - creggan are a better footballing team.

G o boyle no longer plays and the other two fellas are on the bench - if any close would get the nod.  t mccann is half forward country B.
Are you saying them 3 boys should be inside forward line?

What changes do you think he will make - i cant see him making any TBH.

Yes he was the catalyst - surprised anto healy stayed on him as long as he did - taking nothing away from him.
Will be a few interesting match ups. 

If cargin get ahead it would be like st galls - very hard to claw back hence need to open up like you say and go for it.
Lets hope it lives up to the first half of the st galls cargin 1/4

Creggan have got a lot of good players so would not underestimate them and a very nibble forward line so im not sure they will go overly defensive.
They have not done this in the league nor in the champ against ahoghill.

Cargin strong but slow in the full forward line - two cumbersome men inside which i think we can cut out.  There half forward line is one that concerns creggan.
Michael mccann and tomas are the winning of the game IMO.

Creggan v Cargin 7:30 friday 2nd September

How will they line up

should be a close contest

I agree with outinfront - fermanagh are in division 2 by merit and antrim have to shake off the ego that is attached.  We have been unsuccessful since 2009 outside of beating a weak galway side in the qualifiers.  Fermanagh have limited clubs to pick from and their progress has to be admired.  in 2010 we ran an up and coming monaghan team close but now they are miles ahead - you could also throw cavan into that statement.

Players available or not this will always be the case, one mans team is different from the next so the perfect team will never be there as is the case for EVERY county in Ireland.
With the correct structure in place and pride in actually wanted to play for the county to win as opposed to the status of it we will start to move up the ranks but until we sweep the floor clean and show ambition with a seasoned manager, use of good facilities and a mentality of trying to win rather than be defensive as this suits the donegals,tyrones of this world but not an antrim,fermanagh, cavan size of team - create our own identity.

I was down at the game and felt minors showed wonderful potential, young burke in the seniors was a massive plus, mc veigh was a loss but deserved the red card (although i dont think it was intent but a reaction just).  Cj hit a few frees but feel at that level physically he offers nothing and contributes more to himself than others.  His brother Kieran on the other hand is the opposite and is a team player with a fantastic football brain.  Pollock had an off day but is effective when confidence is up and young murray also a fine asset.

I just hope the open door policy is still not in place as it gives the manager an out and not fair on the current crop of players.  Whatever the draw i feel we need to look beyond trying to stop a team and go out and put our best foot forward - longford done this and got distroyed by dublin but I have to admire the managers morals on how he wants that team to move forward.