Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

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Westside

Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:14:26 PMDo Cavan people realise that the majority of counties operate their championships and leagues combined? You can lose a senior champ final in Monaghan and still be relegated.

Why would Cavan people care about the way other counties structure their championships?

It has to be changed. It's not right and unfair. The Cavan representatives should have nominated a Div 3 team to represent them in Ulster.

It's the Ulster JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP. Arva a JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP team. If Ulster start an Ulter Div 3 league, we'll send a Div 3 league team.

intheknowhow

Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:14:26 PMDo Cavan people realise that the majority of counties operate their championships and leagues combined? You can lose a senior champ final in Monaghan and still be relegated.

Why would Cavan people care about the way other counties structure their championships?

It has to be changed. It's not right and unfair. The Cavan representatives should have nominated a Div 3 team to represent them in Ulster.

It's the Ulster JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP. Arva a JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP team. If Ulster start an Ulter Div 3 league, we'll send a Div 3 league team.

That's the idea of having a senior, intermediate and junior championship. Trams play at their level. The fact they play Div 1 football undermines this.

Westside

Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:14:26 PMDo Cavan people realise that the majority of counties operate their championships and leagues combined? You can lose a senior champ final in Monaghan and still be relegated.

Why would Cavan people care about the way other counties structure their championships?

It has to be changed. It's not right and unfair. The Cavan representatives should have nominated a Div 3 team to represent them in Ulster.

It's the Ulster JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP. Arva a JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP team. If Ulster start an Ulter Div 3 league, we'll send a Div 3 league team.

That's the idea of having a senior, intermediate and junior championship. Trams play at their level. The fact they play Div 1 football undermines this.

We have Senior Intermediate and Junior Championships too. You have to win to go up or be relegated to go down. We then send the winners to Ulster every year. Let me know if you need me to explain this again.

intheknowhow

Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:31:22 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:14:26 PMDo Cavan people realise that the majority of counties operate their championships and leagues combined? You can lose a senior champ final in Monaghan and still be relegated.

Why would Cavan people care about the way other counties structure their championships?

It has to be changed. It's not right and unfair. The Cavan representatives should have nominated a Div 3 team to represent them in Ulster.

It's the Ulster JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP. Arva a JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP team. If Ulster start an Ulter Div 3 league, we'll send a Div 3 league team.

That's the idea of having a senior, intermediate and junior championship. Trams play at their level. The fact they play Div 1 football undermines this.

We have Senior Intermediate and Junior Championships too. You have to win to go up or be relegated to go down. We then send the winners to Ulster every year. Let me know if you need me to explain this again.

So you agree it's fair that your 3 representatives in Ulster this year all play div 1? You're been totally ignorant. It is been currently looked at by Ulster gaa and will change.

SaffronSports


ClubScene13

Complete ignorance. These championships are ran off as one massive group where you play 4 random teams. So if you're senior and play x4 of the top teams and it doesn't go well, you're now looking at a one off relegation playoff where anything can happen. Now you're intermediate. Same again.
3 Ulster rep's playing in Division 1 is embarrassing, you can slice it whatever way you want and talk about county player availability / formats / structures whatever you want. It is utterly embarrassing.
If my club won Junior in Tyrone and then pissed Ulster, you'd nearly be mortified. And we've been poor enough in championship in recent years. Doesn't change the fact we compete in division 1 league all year and are a senior club.

theticklemister

What a finish by skinner.

He's hit some scores already today

Westside

Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:31:22 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:14:26 PMDo Cavan people realise that the majority of counties operate their championships and leagues combined? You can lose a senior champ final in Monaghan and still be relegated.

Why would Cavan people care about the way other counties structure their championships?

It has to be changed. It's not right and unfair. The Cavan representatives should have nominated a Div 3 team to represent them in Ulster.

It's the Ulster JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP. Arva a JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP team. If Ulster start an Ulter Div 3 league, we'll send a Div 3 league team.

That's the idea of having a senior, intermediate and junior championship. Trams play at their level. The fact they play Div 1 football undermines this.

We have Senior Intermediate and Junior Championships too. You have to win to go up or be relegated to go down. We then send the winners to Ulster every year. Let me know if you need me to explain this again.

So you agree it's fair that your 3 representatives in Ulster this year all play div 1? You're been totally ignorant. It is been currently looked at by Ulster gaa and will change.

If we started linking them Killygarry would be playing Intermediate Championship next year and would do what Arva just did and dominate in Cavan and Ulster. You'd be moaning then too i'm sure.

Westside

Quote from: ClubScene13 on November 25, 2023, 03:37:45 PMComplete ignorance. These championships are ran off as one massive group where you play 4 random teams. So if you're senior and play x4 of the top teams and it doesn't go well, you're now looking at a one off relegation playoff where anything can happen. Now you're intermediate. Same again.
3 Ulster rep's playing in Division 1 is embarrassing, you can slice it whatever way you want and talk about county player availability / formats / structures whatever you want. It is utterly embarrassing.
If my club won Junior in Tyrone and then pissed Ulster, you'd nearly be mortified. And we've been poor enough in championship in recent years. Doesn't change the fact we compete in division 1 league all year and are a senior club.

If it's any consolation, nobody in Arva or Cavan is embarrassed in the slightest.

intheknowhow

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Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:31:22 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:14:26 PMDo Cavan people realise that the majority of counties operate their championships and leagues combined? You can lose a senior champ final in Monaghan and still be relegated.

Why would Cavan people care about the way other counties structure their championships?

It has to be changed. It's not right and unfair. The Cavan representatives should have nominated a Div 3 team to represent them in Ulster.

It's the Ulster JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP. Arva a JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP team. If Ulster start an Ulter Div 3 league, we'll send a Div 3 league team.

That's the idea of having a senior, intermediate and junior championship. Trams play at their level. The fact they play Div 1 football undermines this.

We have Senior Intermediate and Junior Championships too. You have to win to go up or be relegated to go down. We then send the winners to Ulster every year. Let me know if you need me to explain this again.

So you agree it's fair that your 3 representatives in Ulster this year all play div 1? You're been totally ignorant. It is been currently looked at by Ulster gaa and will change.

If we started linking them Killygarry would be playing Intermediate Championship next year and would do what Arva just did and dominate in Cavan and Ulster. You'd be moaning then too i'm sure.

Absolutely not. We all just want fairness. Play at your level.

full moon

It's more embarrassing that Glenullin can win Derry intermediate 3 years in a row and still enter Intermediate and Ulster.

None of ye care about that though just the same Nordie posters with a massive chip on their shoulders about Cavan. Don't know why not like Cavan GAA has much success

marty34

Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:14:26 PMDo Cavan people realise that the majority of counties operate their championships and leagues combined? You can lose a senior champ final in Monaghan and still be relegated.

Cavan people should be embarrassed that Arva are in the Ulster Club Junior Championship.

Fraud of a system.

Cavan need to sort out their system, to improve it for their senior, intermediate and junior teams.

marty34

Quote from: full moon on November 25, 2023, 03:56:52 PMIt's more embarrassing that Glenullin can win Derry intermediate 3 years in a row and still enter Intermediate and Ulster.

None of ye care about that though just the same Nordie posters with a massive chip on their shoulders about Cavan. Don't know why not like Cavan GAA has much success

Very true.

Westside

Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:31:22 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:14:26 PMDo Cavan people realise that the majority of counties operate their championships and leagues combined? You can lose a senior champ final in Monaghan and still be relegated.

Why would Cavan people care about the way other counties structure their championships?

It has to be changed. It's not right and unfair. The Cavan representatives should have nominated a Div 3 team to represent them in Ulster.

It's the Ulster JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP. Arva a JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP team. If Ulster start an Ulter Div 3 league, we'll send a Div 3 league team.

That's the idea of having a senior, intermediate and junior championship. Trams play at their level. The fact they play Div 1 football undermines this.

We have Senior Intermediate and Junior Championships too. You have to win to go up or be relegated to go down. We then send the winners to Ulster every year. Let me know if you need me to explain this again.

So you agree it's fair that your 3 representatives in Ulster this year all play div 1? You're been totally ignorant. It is been currently looked at by Ulster gaa and will change.

If we started linking them Killygarry would be playing Intermediate Championship next year and would do what Arva just did and dominate in Cavan and Ulster. You'd be moaning then too i'm sure.

Absolutely not. We all just want fairness. Play at your level.

In Cavan, finding your level at Championship football means getting promoted or relegated in Championship football. I don't know why people keep banging on about League football, two entirely different things in Cavan.

ranch

I really don't get the issue here with Arva. They're in the junior championship because they weren't good enough to win it previously. League and championship aren't linked in some counties and that's fair enough as far I'm concerned.
I'd more so have an issue with Blackhill being a yo-yo club every few years, Glenullin remaining at intermediate level for two years running, or a club like Cullyhanna being relegated to intermediate via their league position, ignoring the fact they'd played 90% of the league without their county representatives. This then gave them a pretty straightforward intermediate title in Armagh and a crack at Ulster, despite being a senior club at full strength. A system like Cavan's would eradicate these problems and ensure teams that win championships move up accordingly, and those that have county representation aren't relegated to a lower tier championship via league position undeservedly.