Arlene's bigotry shines through

Started by StGallsGAA, February 14, 2018, 01:13:21 PM

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Minder

Universal Credit coming to SF & DUP strongholds in Belfast in the next few months, they are in no hurry
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Milltown Row2

This is what  happens when women are in charge!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Snapchap

Quote from: smelmoth on February 14, 2018, 10:47:51 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 10:43:03 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 14, 2018, 10:32:06 PM
cannot believe the assembly politicians are being paid

same as the sinn fein mps not taking their seats

They are still providing a full constituency service.

They are elected to a body that's not sitting. Stop the pay now

They still operate a full constituency service. What part of that do you struggle with?

Minder

Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 11:17:57 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on February 14, 2018, 10:47:51 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 10:43:03 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 14, 2018, 10:32:06 PM
cannot believe the assembly politicians are being paid

same as the sinn fein mps not taking their seats

They are still providing a full constituency service.

They are elected to a body that's not sitting. Stop the pay now

They still operate a full constituency service. What part of that do you struggle with?

You seem to be struggling a bit yourself, they are elected to the Assembly to legislate and govern, stuff like that. They aren't doing that. They shouldn't be getting paid.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Snapchap

Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2018, 11:23:49 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 11:17:57 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on February 14, 2018, 10:47:51 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 10:43:03 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 14, 2018, 10:32:06 PM
cannot believe the assembly politicians are being paid

same as the sinn fein mps not taking their seats

They are still providing a full constituency service.

They are elected to a body that's not sitting. Stop the pay now

They still operate a full constituency service. What part of that do you struggle with?

You seem to be struggling a bit yourself, they are elected to the Assembly to legislate and govern, stuff like that. They aren't doing that. They shouldn't be getting paid.
I am not suggesting they should be getting full pay but why should they not be getting any pay for operating a full time constituency service? Scrap their pay and that constituency service goes into the same dustbin as the executive went into. Scrapping the pay in total is just a silly, populist amd counter productive argument.

red hander

Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2018, 11:23:49 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 11:17:57 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on February 14, 2018, 10:47:51 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 10:43:03 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 14, 2018, 10:32:06 PM
cannot believe the assembly politicians are being paid

same as the sinn fein mps not taking their seats

They are still providing a full constituency service.

They are elected to a body that's not sitting. Stop the pay now

They still operate a full constituency service. What part of that do you struggle with?

You seem to be struggling a bit yourself, they are elected to the Assembly to legislate and govern, stuff like that. They aren't doing that. They shouldn't be getting paid.
I am not suggesting they should be getting full pay but why should they not be getting any pay for operating a full time constituency service? Scrap their pay and that constituency service goes into the same dustbin as the executive went into. Scrapping the pay in total is just a silly, populist amd counter productive argument.

There's any amount of councillors covering the same area, the people can go to them. Or go to the MP

Snapchap

Quote from: red hander on February 14, 2018, 11:43:39 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2018, 11:23:49 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 11:17:57 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on February 14, 2018, 10:47:51 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 14, 2018, 10:43:03 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 14, 2018, 10:32:06 PM
cannot believe the assembly politicians are being paid

same as the sinn fein mps not taking their seats

They are still providing a full constituency service.

They are elected to a body that's not sitting. Stop the pay now

They still operate a full constituency service. What part of that do you struggle with?

You seem to be struggling a bit yourself, they are elected to the Assembly to legislate and govern, stuff like that. They aren't doing that. They shouldn't be getting paid.
I am not suggesting they should be getting full pay but why should they not be getting any pay for operating a full time constituency service? Scrap their pay and that constituency service goes into the same dustbin as the executive went into. Scrapping the pay in total is just a silly, populist amd counter productive argument.

There's any amount of councillors covering the same area, the people can go to them. Or go to the MP

Indeed they can - if they want to limit the constituency service available to them to relying on part time councillors or to one MP per constituency dealing with everything on his/her own. I have no issue with MLAs receiving a salary (albeit reduced) for doing full time constituency work. Why should any public worker be expected to work full time for free?

Hereiam

Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2018, 11:05:19 PM
Universal Credit coming to SF & DUP strongholds in Belfast in the next few months, they are in no hurry
That is it in a nutshell minder. Alot of hurt coming so if they are not in office its not there fault. We also have brexit which SF are hoping will be bad so it will harden the support for a UI

armaghniac

Quote from: Hereiam on February 15, 2018, 12:03:10 AM
That is it in a nutshell minder. Alot of hurt coming so if they are not in office its not there fault. We also have brexit which SF are hoping will be bad so it will harden the support for a UI

If the British renege on the pre Christmas agreement re Brexit then they will have overturned the entire political dialogue since 1985 and you are in border poll territory.
Brexit may well lead to some other unfavourable adjustments, and the DUP will have been responsible for these.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

If the Brits are reneging on everything they'll hardly agree to a "border poll"????
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Taylor

The best thing that could happen is T May fucks the whole thing up in Europe and gets the road. The DUP would then lose all the power they currently possess

imtommygunn

It is really just a countdown on that.

Milltown Row2

Forget Brexit forget the executive.. this will always be green and orange politics... most voters are completely blinded by this and regardless of what's happens in the world this place will remain in the dark ages
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

sensethetone

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2018, 07:54:39 AM
Forget Brexit forget the executive.. this will always be green and orange politics... most voters are completely blinded by this and regardless of what's happens in the world this place will remain in the dark ages

Yes and stopping MLA's pay won't change that problem. Same people will get voted back in.

johnneycool

Quote from: sensethetone on February 15, 2018, 08:14:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2018, 07:54:39 AM
Forget Brexit forget the executive.. this will always be green and orange politics... most voters are completely blinded by this and regardless of what's happens in the world this place will remain in the dark ages

Yes and stopping MLA's pay won't change that problem. Same people will get voted back in.

My problem with Stormont is that as far as the DUP are concerned there is no downside to pulling the plug. They're more than happy to be ruled from Westminster and May's supply and confidence agreement.
But god forbid if the Tories pushed through same sex marriage and the ILA from Westminster and then again the DUP would have their Lundy to blame and appease their christian right and the knuckle draggers.

Eastwood was adamant that the Southern government was meant to have a say "in the spirit" of the agreement, but I can't see that happening although it may put a rocket up the DUP's arses.

On another note Simon Hamilton (who's a much more accomplished operator than Arlene) when pushed on the ILA act kept reiterating that the ILA was not acceptable to unionists and when pushed again on Radio 6 counties as to what the DUP had counter offered seemed to have no response.
Evidently the DUP were not going to have an ILA even if the Shinners were prepared to allow a standalone Ulster Scots act as part of the bigger deal.

As already stated there's a big push in unionism to deny any form of Irish culture being expressed in the wee six. They don't even like us taigs not using the term Northern Ireland for this place FFS.