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#1

General discussion / Re: Have many countries have G...

Last post by AustinPowers - Today at 08:01:13 PM

Steady on there , seafoid

We're only  on the A's and B's 

#2

General discussion / Re: The far right

Last post by David McKeown - Today at 07:38:37 PM

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/helen-mcentee-confirms-fewer-100-32663680.amp


So would calling for the deportation of 7200 people "whose asylum applications have been refused" be a far right
Position?

All I say is there was a famous case last year where an asylum seeker in Belfast had his claim for asylum refused at first instance.  The reason for his refusal was he had claimed he would be persecuted in his home country because he was involved in guerrilla warfare.  The Home Office rejected that this would entitle him to asylum because 'gorillas are an endangered species' and fighting them shouldn't allow him to claim asylum.

So id at least like appeals to be dealt with first

#3

General discussion / Re: The DUP thread

Last post by David McKeown - Today at 07:31:48 PM

Only thing for sure is that there are no winners, but hopefully justice is service.

As I said before, it is hard to see how you can prove something 20 years ago beyond reasonable doubt, I doubt there were witnesses other than his wife.

Hearing other cases the PPS didn't prosecute due unlikelihood of conviction even when there is evidence, they must feel there's a high chance of conviction based on what ever evidence they have. No?

I've no idea myself - I'm doing a lot of reading between the lines and may well be getting it wrong.

Today was the 1st appearance. I'd be shocked if the PPS even have the full file yet let alone have made a decision. It would be unusual for them to have the full file yet particularly if the allegations only surfaced in March.

So does that mean the PPS could still decide not prosecute?
I've no idea how these things work, I'd made the assumption it only gets this far if the PPS are already in a position to prosecute.
Interesting.

Police once they arrest someone can question them for a total period of initially 24 hours before they must release them without charge or charge them.  That time can be extended firstly by senior by police officers and then by courts.  Until that time is used up police can release upon pre charge bail in order to gather further evidence but conditions are largely unenforceable (not going into the details of that here not really relevant).   Once police believe they have sufficient evidence to establish a prime facie case they can charge.  Alternatively they can release for report.  Neither way suggests the evidence is any stronger or weaker than the other it more comes down to the perceived necessity by police for bail conditions and/or a remand.  The reason some are charged is essentially that police believe there a likelihood of reoffending if not charged, is there a likelihood of interference with witnesses or is there a likelihood of absconding.  Rarely there may be other reasons for charging such as to uphold public confidence but these are rare.

If an individual is charged they can be kept to the next remand court (the next day or two if its over a holiday or weekend) if PSNI feel that remand is necessary to meet the above.   Or they can be released on post charge bail by the custody sergeant who will set a date within 28 days for a defendant to appear at court and will set bail conditions.  That is what happened in this case.

After charge PSNI will continue to gather evidence and collate the already gathered evidence in order to submit a file to the PPS.  Once a file is received it will be allocated to a suitably qualified prosecutor who will review the file and if necessary request the police to gather further evidence.  Once the PPS have a full file they will decide whether to prosecute and what charges are to be prosecuted and where they are to be prosecuted.

Asking how long that process will last is like asking how long is a piece of string.  I recently had a fast tracked one that took 14 months but I've had ones take anything from 4 months to 3 years.  It depends on the amount of evidence, the quality, the likelihood of getting more, how busy the directing officer is, how busy the investigating officer is etc etc.

With a charge sheet case the court will keep under review how long things are taking.  Had the case been taken for report then its simply a case of when PPS can get round to it, but defendants aren't on bail in report cases. 

Statistically report cases have a higher conviction rate but a lower decision to prosecute rate but there's very little difference.

Ultimately all cases investigated by police are sent to PPS for decision.  A lot never see the light of day, some get dropped after being charged and others get prosecuted the whole way to trial.  At this moment nothing has happened that I am aware of that could lead to any proper conclusions on the strength of the evidence and we would simply be speculating.

#4

GAA Discussion / Re: Casement Park in line for ...

Last post by Rossfan - Today at 07:31:42 PM

The GAA probably couldn't give 2 hoots whether there's a Euro soccer game in Belfast or not.
If the IFA, 6Cos Executive, Brit Govt and various soccer supporters want it then let them pay for it.
A 5,000 seat plus 15 to 20,000 standing would do the GAA in Belfast/Antrim just fine.

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General discussion / Re: Have many countries have G...

Last post by seafoid - Today at 07:31:29 PM

Lebanon
Syria
Jordan
Israel
Palestine
Egypt
Sudan
India
China
Macao
Hong Kong
South Korea
Thailand
Togo
Benin
Morocco
Spain
Malta
Turkey
Italy
Croatia
Serbia
Poland
Lithuania,
Denmark
Germany
Luxembourg
Switzerland
Austria
Liechtenstein
Hungary
Slovakia
Belgium
Netherlands
England
Scotland
Wales
OWC

#6

GAA Discussion / Re: Casement Park in line for ...

Last post by illdecide - Today at 07:25:35 PM

Jasus lads don't be so tight, throw us up your spare change...lol.
On a serious note i've changed my tune now regarding Casement and the whole DUP and Government crap up here. With whatever we have in funding and handouts build whatever we can afford and f**k the whole lot of them, if it ends up a 25000 stadium so be it. Let them all go to hell and F**K the Euro's too, F**K the DUP and F**K everyone...ARRGGGHHHHH

#7

General discussion / Re: Have many countries have G...

Last post by dec - Today at 06:58:17 PM

I have been to East Germany, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia amongst others.

Won't be going back to them any time soon.

#8

General discussion / Have many countries have GAABo...

Last post by AustinPowers - Today at 06:53:55 PM

Just for a bit of craic , I thought I'd start this.

So, I'm  interested to  find out  how many countries in  the world  GAABoard members have  been to.

Maybe between us all , we've travelled to  every country?

There are  over 200 according to Wikipedia , so I'll start  with the A's and  the B's.

Just add which of  these you've travelled to:


Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Andorra
Angola
Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Armenia
Australia
Austria
Azerbaijan

Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Belgium
Belize
Benin
Bhutan
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Brazil
Brunei
Bulgaria
Burkina Faso
Burundi

#9

General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...

Last post by befair - Today at 05:57:14 PM

Not a supporter of any team, but Klopp has done a wonderful job, being competitive against a City who have become a monster. Just looking at their team last night; would Endo, Jones, Konate get their place on the City and Arsenal squads?

#10

General discussion / Re: The DUP thread

Last post by quit yo jibbajabba - Today at 05:55:36 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68647494.amp