Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

Started by Joxer, October 06, 2010, 02:42:28 PM

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OakleafCounty

Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 18, 2017, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: OakleafCounty on July 18, 2017, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 18, 2017, 02:24:28 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 18, 2017, 02:21:27 PM
Given Down's recent record in Clones, the sooner Casement is built the better. It certainly looks the part and I like the terraced end that has a roof over it.

Derry fans would be in the same boat Ogra. Casement more a home to South Derry fans than Celtic Park ever was! Que the abuse from the North Derry madmen ;)

Why put a wink at the end of it as you aren't joking. Most in south county Derry don't have an affinity with anywhere north of the Sperrins, especially not Derry City. The road to Derry City is shite so nobody goes there for shopping or entertainment and most in south Derry don't work there as the jobs are in Belfast. That's a product of almost a century of Stormont concentrating its growth around Belfast and actively prohibiting growth west of the Bann. Public money being pumped into three Belfast stadiums is just another example of that. 

Count to 10 and breath Oakleaf

You said people in South Derry feel more at home in Belfast than Derry. I just pointed out some of the reasons why that's the case. Nobody's getting agitated here.

Walter Cronc

My wink was aimed at Tickle and a few of the other Derry City posters on here. Have a nice day pal.

thefont

Looks Amazing well done Ulster Gaa!

Two questions occur to me.

1 - When are we going to get our mighty stadium in the Wesht? Or can we look forward in perpetuity to being "blashted out of it and drownded" in our black triangle of concrete sh$tholes - McHale, Pearse and "the" Hyde. I don't know about the McHale fella but there's a few good Irishmen having their names taken in vain by the GAA there.

2 -  PUC, why in the name of God? Hopefully the last of the Gombeen stadia.

Maybe we'll get a Connacht final up in Belfast, would be a good day out!

JoG2

Quote from: OakleafCounty on July 18, 2017, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 18, 2017, 02:24:28 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 18, 2017, 02:21:27 PM
Given Down's recent record in Clones, the sooner Casement is built the better. It certainly looks the part and I like the terraced end that has a roof over it.

Derry fans would be in the same boat Ogra. Casement more a home to South Derry fans than Celtic Park ever was! Que the abuse from the North Derry madmen ;)

Why put a wink at the end of it as you aren't joking. Most in south county Derry don't have an affinity with anywhere north of the Sperrins, especially not Derry City. The road to Derry City is shite so nobody goes there for shopping or entertainment and most in south Derry don't work there as the jobs are in Belfast. That's a product of almost a century of Stormont concentrating its growth around Belfast and actively prohibiting growth west of the Bann. Public money being pumped into three Belfast stadiums is just another example of that.

you could move CP  in behind Jamesies and we'd still be outnumbered by 31 other counties. Would any other county have a bigger bandwagon though?

Owen Brannigan

Is this not the height of nonsense - Maze site to be used as a park and ride for Casement Park?

http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/10/10/news/casement-park-maze-transport-plans-cannot-go-ahead-without-stormont-executive-1157496/

Surely, the entire development should have been located here and resolving all problems.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 10, 2017, 09:17:46 PM
Is this not the height of nonsense - Maze site to be used as a park and ride for Casement Park?

http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/10/10/news/casement-park-maze-transport-plans-cannot-go-ahead-without-stormont-executive-1157496/

Surely, the entire development should have been located here and resolving all problems.

But the Maze isn't Casement, Belfast! I don't understand after all this time that people can't see that the money is allocated to Casement and Casement only!!

Move on
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2017, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 10, 2017, 09:17:46 PM
Is this not the height of nonsense - Maze site to be used as a park and ride for Casement Park?

http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/10/10/news/casement-park-maze-transport-plans-cannot-go-ahead-without-stormont-executive-1157496/

Surely, the entire development should have been located here and resolving all problems.

But the Maze isn't Casement, Belfast! I don't understand after all this time that people can't see that the money is allocated to Casement and Casement only!!

Move on

If stormont collapses will they even get the money for the stadium. It was ring fenced but if there is no executive will that money be paid out (if they even get the planning permission ffs)

armaghniac

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 10, 2017, 09:17:46 PM
Is this not the height of nonsense - Maze site to be used as a park and ride for Casement Park?

http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/10/10/news/casement-park-maze-transport-plans-cannot-go-ahead-without-stormont-executive-1157496/

Surely, the entire development should have been located here and resolving all problems.

Casement is something of a white elephant, but putting it in the arse end of nowhere would make it even worse.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

BennyCake

Time to give up on Casement.

Either expand Armagh or build a new stadium that's handy for all Ulster.

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: armaghniac on October 10, 2017, 10:23:15 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 10, 2017, 09:17:46 PM
Is this not the height of nonsense - Maze site to be used as a park and ride for Casement Park?

http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/10/10/news/casement-park-maze-transport-plans-cannot-go-ahead-without-stormont-executive-1157496/

Surely, the entire development should have been located here and resolving all problems.

Casement is something of a white elephant, but putting it in the arse end of nowhere would make it even worse.

But to build a park and ride for Casement Park at the Maze site as planned by the GAA is the greatest nonsense of this foolish scheme which has shown Ulster GAA and SF when holding the ministerial portfolio to appear to be largely incapable of managing and delivering a large scale project to produce a single football stadium within a reasonable time frame.  In the meantime, Ulster Rugby have planned, built and used an excellent 18,000 capacity stadium in a residential area, IFA have rebuilt and used Windsor Park with a similar capacity also in a residential area and Munster GAA have knocked down and rebuilt Páirc Uí Chaoimh in a two year period with a capacity of 45,000.

BTW the planned park and ride at the Maze for Casement Park will cause a major problem for SF as a direct connection to the site from the M1 will be required and this has been blocked by SF because its DUP partners in government had blocked money for a visitor attraction at the Maze site.  Will SF hold out on this road connection when the GAA needs it to build Casement Park, eventually.

Walter Cronc

Is there park and ride facilities for Croke Park or the Aviva?

If Casement was still in operation would a new park and ride be required??

Surely improving links to Great Victoria/Central station would be more appropriate?

rosnarun

Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 11, 2017, 08:59:24 AM
Is there park and ride facilities for Croke Park or the Aviva?

If Casement was still in operation would a new park and ride be required??

Surely improving links to Great Victoria/Central station would be more appropriate?
no officail park and ride though a local college and school open their premises in a semi official way as in the gaa tell people they are there but do nothing for them . an example of this is oconnel schoold have a walkway  ou the back of the car park leading directly into Croke Park but Croke park object to them opening it cause about a 15 minute walk around instead .
Dublin coulcil do everything they can to make Visits as unpleasant as possible promising to clamp any one street parked within a mile and a half of Croker
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 11, 2017, 08:59:24 AM
Is there park and ride facilities for Croke Park or the Aviva?

If Casement was still in operation would a new park and ride be required??

Surely improving links to Great Victoria/Central station would be more appropriate?


The use of the Maze as a park and ride for Casement Park is part of the planning application from Ulster GAA for building of the new stadium.  Most likely as a way to mitigate the huge parking issues for a 30,000 stadium.

Ulster Rugby uses three adjacent school premises for parking, providing free bus service to one of them situated a bit further from the stadium and runs free bus from parking in the city centre.  Windsor park uses the parking areas along the Boucher Road and it has direct train link to city centre in one direction and to the west in the other direction using station at Adelaide Halt.

If the stadium is ever built then the new Rapid Transit system for Belfast will operate along the Andersonstown Road to the city centre, 'similar' provision as the Dart at the Aviva.

No additional parking requirement could be enforced if Casement Park was still in operation and no changes requiring planning or new safety regulations were made.  Once you got to planning then new conditions can be brought in.


Croí na hÉireann

Quote from: rosnarun on October 11, 2017, 10:30:06 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 11, 2017, 08:59:24 AM
Is there park and ride facilities for Croke Park or the Aviva?

If Casement was still in operation would a new park and ride be required??

Surely improving links to Great Victoria/Central station would be more appropriate?
no officail park and ride though a local college and school open their premises in a semi official way as in the gaa tell people they are there but do nothing for them . an example of this is oconnel schoold have a walkway  ou the back of the car park leading directly into Croke Park but Croke park object to them opening it cause about a 15 minute walk around instead .
Dublin coulcil do everything they can to make Visits as unpleasant as possible promising to clamp any one street parked within a mile and a half of Croker

You have to know where to park. I've parked with 700m of Croker on AI final day no problem, follow the on street parking signs and you can't go wrong.
Westmeath - Home of the Christy Ring Cup...

general_lee

Quote from: BennyCake on October 10, 2017, 10:40:48 PM
Time to give up on Casement.

Either expand Armagh or build a new stadium that's handy for all Ulster.
I'm starting to agree with this. I'd scratch the plans for 30k at Casement and redevelop on a much smaller scale, maybe a 10k facility to suit Antrim's needs. I see they are playing their county final in Glenavy ::) they've gone long enough without a decent stadium to cater for club finals and county games. The SF wet dream of a major stadium in west Belfast is costing too much and the longer it goes on the less I want to see it. Even the people in west Belfast don't seem too fussed so pull the plug and give the GAA a lump sum to develop other provincial stadia where they'll be appreciated.