Money, Dublin and the GAA

[Baile Brigín 2]

I have no problem with lads making a few quid. But in this case Dean is literally charging for skills that he was taught for free. No doubt in the Dublin set up he has access to all the help and support to help him perfect his technique. Now he is charging people for the same info he got free of charge.

Anyone who thinks that an hour or 2 with Dean rock is going to make a massive improvement to their free taking is not thinking right.

This. €350 to be told to concentrate and practice.

On one hand, best of luck to him. But lets be clear. Its grubby.

[rosnarun]

coaching frees is vital . far too many clubs  just hand the ball their Free taker and don't worry about it excep to f**k him out of it if he misses
Has any one ever received free kick lessons here?.
  most games about half the points will come from frees (im guessing anyone got data?) so if you can up the rate a lot of near misses will become wins

[rodney trotter]

He's not starting it at a great time.  GAA season might not even be completed.  A second Construction site temporarily shut down in Dublin today.

Not the Celtic Tiger days. A rescission imminent, so price seems a bit much.

[themac_23]

coaching frees is vital . far too many clubs  just hand the ball their Free taker and don't worry about it excep to f**k him out of it if he misses
Has any one ever received free kick lessons here?.
  most games about half the points will come from frees (im guessing anyone got data?) so if you can up the rate a lot of near misses will become wins

No it isn't, 'coaching' frees isn't vital, practice is vital, only way to get better is to practice practice practice. the best free takers ive ever seen stay behind after training and hit 15-20 frees and then you see them throw the balls in the car and practice when they can. they find a technique that works for them and work hard on perfecting it. Having the best free taker in the county taking you 1 on 1 for 1-2 hours will not make you as good as him, practice on your own and kicking balls will.

David Beckham, Ronaldo etc are/ were the best at what they done because they worked on it, when Ronaldo was at Utd he used to grab 2 of the young keepers to do nets for him after training for an hour or so to practice free kicks, at this time he didn't have the technique he has now, that's where he developed it and made it his own

[Baile Brigín 2]

coaching frees is vital . far too many clubs  just hand the ball their Free taker and don't worry about it excep to f**k him out of it if he misses
Has any one ever received free kick lessons here?.
  most games about half the points will come from frees (im guessing anyone got data?) so if you can up the rate a lot of near misses will become wins

I did. From a county player. For free.

[dublin7]

coaching frees is vital . far too many clubs  just hand the ball their Free taker and don't worry about it excep to f**k him out of it if he misses
Has any one ever received free kick lessons here?.
  most games about half the points will come from frees (im guessing anyone got data?) so if you can up the rate a lot of near misses will become wins

No it isn't, 'coaching' frees isn't vital, practice is vital, only way to get better is to practice practice practice. the best free takers ive ever seen stay behind after training and hit 15-20 frees and then you see them throw the balls in the car and practice when they can. they find a technique that works for them and work hard on perfecting it. Having the best free taker in the county taking you 1 on 1 for 1-2 hours will not make you as good as him, practice on your own and kicking balls will.

David Beckham, Ronaldo etc are/ were the best at what they done because they worked on it, when Ronaldo was at Utd he used to grab 2 of the young keepers to do nets for him after training for an hour or so to practice free kicks, at this time he didn't have the technique he has now, that's where he developed it and made it his own

All the top professional rugby kickers have kicking coaches they use from time to time. Obviously practice is vital, but coaches are there to help you improve and work on your technique. There's no point practicing something daily if you're not doing it right or or there's a better way of doing it.

[Taylor]

coaching frees is vital . far too many clubs  just hand the ball their Free taker and don't worry about it excep to f**k him out of it if he misses
Has any one ever received free kick lessons here?.
  most games about half the points will come from frees (im guessing anyone got data?) so if you can up the rate a lot of near misses will become wins

No it isn't, 'coaching' frees isn't vital, practice is vital, only way to get better is to practice practice practice. the best free takers ive ever seen stay behind after training and hit 15-20 frees and then you see them throw the balls in the car and practice when they can. they find a technique that works for them and work hard on perfecting it. Having the best free taker in the county taking you 1 on 1 for 1-2 hours will not make you as good as him, practice on your own and kicking balls will.

David Beckham, Ronaldo etc are/ were the best at what they done because they worked on it, when Ronaldo was at Utd he used to grab 2 of the young keepers to do nets for him after training for an hour or so to practice free kicks, at this time he didn't have the technique he has now, that's where he developed it and made it his own

All the top professional rugby kickers have kicking coaches they use from time to time. Obviously practice is vital, but coaches are there to help you improve and work on your technique. There's no point practicing something daily if you're not doing it right or or there's a better way of doing it.

If it was COC, Mc Manus or somone similar would the Dubs be so vehement in their defence? Doubtful.

Great to see high profile GAA players and journalists coming to his defence - we just await the GPA with their opinion 

[marty34]

Is he a GPA man?

I think goalies etc. run a few 'clinics' during the year but the prices here for free taking is extraordinary - unreal....plus expense.  With those proces, he could have said 25% is going to a charity and still make a few quid out of it, plus people would maybe be more willing to sign up.

Couldn't see T.J. at this or, what would Jim Gavin have said?

Anyway, be interesting to see how many will sign up.  Probably still a few parents about who'll splash out for their wee Johnny.

[dublin7]

coaching frees is vital . far too many clubs  just hand the ball their Free taker and don't worry about it excep to f**k him out of it if he misses
Has any one ever received free kick lessons here?.
  most games about half the points will come from frees (im guessing anyone got data?) so if you can up the rate a lot of near misses will become wins

No it isn't, 'coaching' frees isn't vital, practice is vital, only way to get better is to practice practice practice. the best free takers ive ever seen stay behind after training and hit 15-20 frees and then you see them throw the balls in the car and practice when they can. they find a technique that works for them and work hard on perfecting it. Having the best free taker in the county taking you 1 on 1 for 1-2 hours will not make you as good as him, practice on your own and kicking balls will.

David Beckham, Ronaldo etc are/ were the best at what they done because they worked on it, when Ronaldo was at Utd he used to grab 2 of the young keepers to do nets for him after training for an hour or so to practice free kicks, at this time he didn't have the technique he has now, that's where he developed it and made it his own

All the top professional rugby kickers have kicking coaches they use from time to time. Obviously practice is vital, but coaches are there to help you improve and work on your technique. There's no point practicing something daily if you're not doing it right or or there's a better way of doing it.

If it was COC, Mc Manus or somone similar would the Dubs be so vehement in their defence? Doubtful.

Great to see high profile GAA players and journalists coming to his defence - we just await the GPA with their opinion 

If it was COC offering to teach someone/offer advice on how they successfully deal with the pressures of kicking frees to win All Irelands you're right, I wouldn't be defending him. 

Some might wonder if it wasn't a Dublin player would he be getting such criticisms. Wexford hurling captain Lee Chin has agent you need to contact if you want him to appear at your club to present medals or any other role.

[Eire90]

and they say the gaa is amateur

[imtommygunn]

dublin7 it's not the money it's the price of it.

[Taylor]

coaching frees is vital . far too many clubs  just hand the ball their Free taker and don't worry about it excep to f**k him out of it if he misses
Has any one ever received free kick lessons here?.
  most games about half the points will come from frees (im guessing anyone got data?) so if you can up the rate a lot of near misses will become wins

No it isn't, 'coaching' frees isn't vital, practice is vital, only way to get better is to practice practice practice. the best free takers ive ever seen stay behind after training and hit 15-20 frees and then you see them throw the balls in the car and practice when they can. they find a technique that works for them and work hard on perfecting it. Having the best free taker in the county taking you 1 on 1 for 1-2 hours will not make you as good as him, practice on your own and kicking balls will.

David Beckham, Ronaldo etc are/ were the best at what they done because they worked on it, when Ronaldo was at Utd he used to grab 2 of the young keepers to do nets for him after training for an hour or so to practice free kicks, at this time he didn't have the technique he has now, that's where he developed it and made it his own

All the top professional rugby kickers have kicking coaches they use from time to time. Obviously practice is vital, but coaches are there to help you improve and work on your technique. There's no point practicing something daily if you're not doing it right or or there's a better way of doing it.

If it was COC, Mc Manus or somone similar would the Dubs be so vehement in their defence? Doubtful.

Great to see high profile GAA players and journalists coming to his defence - we just await the GPA with their opinion 

If it was COC offering to teach someone/offer advice on how they successfully deal with the pressures of kicking frees to win All Irelands you're right, I wouldn't be defending him. 

Some might wonder if it wasn't a Dublin player would he be getting such criticisms. Wexford hurling captain Lee Chin has agent you need to contact if you want him to appear at your club to present medals or any other role.

So rather than look at it objectively you just defend him at all costs (pun intended)

[Rossfan]

and they say the gaa is amateur

It is.
This is an amateur footballer setting up a private  business.
Nobody has to use his services.

[Lar Naparka]

As I see it, there must be serious demand for his services or he wouldn't have set up his business in the first  place. If he gets people to sign on, he's a lucky bugger and fair play to him. I can't see anyone being forced to pay for his services.
I have no problem with any GAA player doing anything (legal) to bring in a few bob.
When you consider the time, effort and loss of freedom they all put in to play for their clubs and counties, I can't see how anyone could begrudge them cashing in on their public profiles.
There was a big fuss a few years back when  Gooch held a dinner and charged a hefty price for tickets. Nobody was obliged to put their hands in their pockets, and by all accounts, there was sell out crowd. Many people, upright champions of the amateur ethos, tied their jocks in knots at the thought of a GAA player profiting in any way from any connection with the game.
Good luck to Dean; I wouldn't dream of paying his prices if I had kids interested but I'm not everybody.

[Eire90]

what i was meant to say is being a high profile gaa players gets you benefits and favours in the community so some players are indirectly professionals proxy professional you could call them.