Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

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Gaafan2

Will youth football have both a league and championship. It could be very difficult to complete both due to the fact small to medium sized clubs would have an overlap of u14's playing u16's and u16's playing minors. It won't be a major issue in Tyrone but other counties will also have an overlap of both codes, football and hurling.

Jimbop

#41731
Proposed calendar (games all on Saturdays of course)

01/08/2020 – League: Round 1
08/08/2020 – League: Round 2
15/08/2020 – League: Round 3
22/08/2020 – League: Round 4
29/08/2020 – Championship Round 1
05/09/2020 – League: Round 5
08/09/2020 – Backdoor Round 1
12/09/2020 – League: Round 6
15/09/2020 - Backdoor Round 2
19/09/2020 – League: Round 7
26/09/2020 – Championship QF
03/10/2020 – Championship SF
10/10/2020 – Championship Final

GlenMan

Quote from: gaafan2 on June 08, 2020, 03:26:02 PM
Will youth football have both a league and championship. It could be very difficult to complete both due to the fact small to medium sized clubs would have an overlap of u14's playing u16's and u16's playing minors. It won't be a major issue in Tyrone but other counties will also have an overlap of both codes, football and hurling.

I would highly doubt there'll be any youth football and if so it'll probably be Minor only.

Gaafan2

Quote from: GlenMan on June 08, 2020, 03:43:53 PM
Quote from: gaafan2 on June 08, 2020, 03:26:02 PM
Will youth football have both a league and championship. It could be very difficult to complete both due to the fact small to medium sized clubs would have an overlap of u14's playing u16's and u16's playing minors. It won't be a major issue in Tyrone but other counties will also have an overlap of both codes, football and hurling.

I would highly doubt there'll be any youth football and if so it'll probably be Minor only.

In the guidelines on safe return to gaelic games it states from the 29th June training can commence for adult and juvenile teams in small groups only, all forms of team and group training is permitted from 21st July and that Juvenile and youth competitions to take place from 31st July until mid october.

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: GlenMan on June 08, 2020, 03:43:53 PM
Quote from: gaafan2 on June 08, 2020, 03:26:02 PM
Will youth football have both a league and championship. It could be very difficult to complete both due to the fact small to medium sized clubs would have an overlap of u14's playing u16's and u16's playing minors. It won't be a major issue in Tyrone but other counties will also have an overlap of both codes, football and hurling.

I would highly doubt there'll be any youth football and if so it'll probably be Minor only.

There will be youth football, they have already made reference to that fact in the return to play guidelines on the Tyrone County Board website.

It would be a massive own goal by the GAA to let adults return and not children.

The return to play document details the below with regards to children -

6. Risk – Adult v Underage players
The HIQA document "Evidence summary for spread of COVID-19 by children" published in May 2020
indicated that there is low transmissibility among children less than 14 years old. Serious illness in children is
rare to date. There are low rates of child-to-adult or child-to-family member transmission in the limited
number of studies available. As with all situations there is a risk of infection but it appears to be lower in
children. Outdoor activity appears to further lower the risk. There are a number of actions that can be taken
to lower the risk of infection during activities.


Also

Reduced training groups – the following outlines permitted numbers through the phases:
• In Phase 3, teams must only train in small groups and adhere to social distancing guidelines (currently 2
metres)
• Cohort Group 1 (u14 and below) begin training – small groups (not more than 10 players/2
coaches in a designated area of the pitch) for non-contact training under social distancing
guidelines – where players can maintain the Government advised distance from each other
(currently 2 metres)
• Cohort Group 2 (15-18) begin training – small groups (not more than 10 players/2 coaches in a
designated area of the pitch) for non-contact training under social distancing guidelines –
where players can maintain the Government advised distance from each other (currently 2m)
(Note: Underage groups must be comprised in accordance with the ratios provided for by the Code
of Behaviour. Parental or guardian sign off on the Health Questionnaire will be required for
underage participation)

GlenMan

Quote from: gaafan2 on June 08, 2020, 04:10:40 PM
Quote from: GlenMan on June 08, 2020, 03:43:53 PM
Quote from: gaafan2 on June 08, 2020, 03:26:02 PM
Will youth football have both a league and championship. It could be very difficult to complete both due to the fact small to medium sized clubs would have an overlap of u14's playing u16's and u16's playing minors. It won't be a major issue in Tyrone but other counties will also have an overlap of both codes, football and hurling.

I would highly doubt there'll be any youth football and if so it'll probably be Minor only.

In the guidelines on safe return to gaelic games it states from the 29th June training can commence for adult and juvenile teams in small groups only, all forms of team and group training is permitted from 21st July and that Juvenile and youth competitions to take place from 31st July until mid october.

I'm aware what the guidelines say however it's up to each County to devise a Competitions schedule. Tyrone CCC may decide there's no time to play U14, U16 etc. Don't forget that logistical issues such as Referees and testing before games are big hurdles which the CCC will have to take into account.

Gaafan2

Quote from: GlenMan on June 08, 2020, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: gaafan2 on June 08, 2020, 04:10:40 PM
Quote from: GlenMan on June 08, 2020, 03:43:53 PM
Quote from: gaafan2 on June 08, 2020, 03:26:02 PM
Will youth football have both a league and championship. It could be very difficult to complete both due to the fact small to medium sized clubs would have an overlap of u14's playing u16's and u16's playing minors. It won't be a major issue in Tyrone but other counties will also have an overlap of both codes, football and hurling.

I would highly doubt there'll be any youth football and if so it'll probably be Minor only.

In the guidelines on safe return to gaelic games it states from the 29th June training can commence for adult and juvenile teams in small groups only, all forms of team and group training is permitted from 21st July and that Juvenile and youth competitions to take place from 31st July until mid october.

I'm aware what the guidelines say however it's up to each County to devise a Competitions schedule. Tyrone CCC may decide there's no time to play U14, U16 etc. Don't forget that logistical issues such as Referees and testing before games are big hurdles which the CCC will have to take into account.

Good point, you'd imagine there will be a shortage of referees with so many games to take place over a short period of time.

LeoMc

Quote from: Jimbop on June 08, 2020, 03:30:31 PM
Proposed calendar (games all on Saturdays of course)

01/08/2020 – League: Round 1
08/08/2020 – League: Round 2
15/08/2020 – League: Round 3
22/08/2020 – League: Round 4
29/08/2020 – Championship Round 1
05/09/2020 – League: Round 5
08/09/2020 – Backdoor Round 1
12/09/2020 – League: Round 6
15/09/2020 - Backdoor Round 2
19/09/2020 – League: Round 7
26/09/2020 – Championship QF
03/10/2020 – Championship SF
10/10/2020 – Championship Final
How would this championship back door work based on above:
First round            8 losers.          8 winners
Back door 1 4 out 4 through
Back door 2 2 out 2 through
Quarterfinals.        2        +         8?

Jimbop

#41738
Bit more thought needed for that one but you get the idea - we need more games somehow! 😂

Thats derrys system --->

The 16 clubs all played in the first round.

In the second round winners section the eight winning teams from round one played against each other with the four winners going straight into the quarter-finals.
In the second round losers section the eight beaten teams from round one played against each other.
In round three (also referred to as the quarter-final qualifiers) the four beaten teams from the round two winners section played the four winning teams from the round two losers section.I
In the quarter-finals the four teams who won their first two matches in rounds one and two played the four winners of round three.The quarter-finals, semi-finals and final were knock-out.

redzone

Championship needs to be played first when county players will be available. Harte will want access to them as soon as possible. Leagues could be run off without County players with no relegation or promotion

Goals_Will_Come

#41740
Quote from: Jimbop on June 08, 2020, 03:30:31 PM
Proposed calendar (games all on Saturdays of course)

01/08/2020 – League: Round 1
08/08/2020 – League: Round 2
15/08/2020 – League: Round 3
22/08/2020 – League: Round 4
29/08/2020 – Championship Round 1
05/09/2020 – League: Round 5
08/09/2020 – Backdoor Round 1
12/09/2020 – League: Round 6
15/09/2020 - Backdoor Round 2
19/09/2020 – League: Round 7
26/09/2020 – Championship QF
03/10/2020 – Championship SF
10/10/2020 – Championship Final
Got a lot of potential with games finished on the day. Don't agree with any back doors, takes away from the winners in the end. Think keeping the normal knockout format is the way for the championship to be played.
Would say you would need an extra game, a league final between east and west for league winners and promotion and a relegation game between the sides bottom of each side.

Proposed calendar (games all on Saturdays of course)

01/08/2020 – League: Round 1
08/08/2020 – League: Round 2
15/08/2020 – League: Round 3
22/08/2020 – League: Round 4
29/08/2020 – League: Round 5
05/09/2020 – League: Round 6
08/09/2020 – League: Round 7
12/09/2020 – League: Final and Relegation Games
19/09/2020 – Championship 1st Round
26/09/2020 – Championship QF
03/10/2020 – Championship SF
10/10/2020 – Championship Final

LeoMc

#41741
Quote from: Jimbop on June 08, 2020, 05:48:22 PM
Bit more thought needed for that one but you get the idea - we need more games somehow! 😂

Thats derrys system --->

The 16 clubs all played in the first round.

In the second round winners section the eight winning teams from round one played against each other with the four winners going straight into the quarter-finals.
In the second round losers section the eight beaten teams from round one played against each other.
In round three (also referred to as the quarter-final qualifiers) the four beaten teams from the round two winners section played the four winning teams from the round two losers section.I
In the quarter-finals the four teams who won their first two matches in rounds one and two played the four winners of round three.The quarter-finals, semi-finals and final were knock-out.
;D Thought I was missing something. Am not a fan of the back-door system, I think it takes away from the competition. If we need more games then a Jim Devlin / McElduff cup for teams beaten in the first round (and maybe the second round)?

I do agree with playing it off in parallel with the league andwould like to see as many as teams are comfortable with playing (2 per week?). I would rather have teams playing off the cuff than out on the training field figuring out their defensive shield.

What was the reason for all games on Saturday? A lot of underage football and blitzes to be squeezed in without losing Saturdays.

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: redzone on June 08, 2020, 06:03:34 PM
Championship needs to be played first when county players will be available. Harte will want access to them as soon as possible. Leagues could be run off without County players with no relegation or promotion

There won't be a club in the county, with a county player agrees to that.

WT4E

Quote from: Jimbop on June 08, 2020, 03:15:46 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 07, 2020, 11:27:08 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 06, 2020, 11:54:54 AM
Quote from: Jimbop on June 06, 2020, 11:19:53 AM
Wonder how they'll work the league. To get 15 league games in plus 4 championship games...youd need to basically play 2 games a week to get it played in 31 July - 11th October window.
Think the league bes played in a different format. Perhaps taking the form of the Jim Devlin league cups that used to be played.

Play each division in 4 groups of 4. 3 games each. Top 4 into semis, bottom 4 into relegation semis. 4 to 5 weeks to sort out ur league finalists and relegation.

Teams well warmed up for knock out champo played over 6 weeks or so.

Finish season with 3 league finals.

So some teams only get 4 games if they finish mid table in their group and lose 1st round of championship?
There's 11 club weeks. I think a minimum of 8 games (if not 10) should be played in order to keep players motivated. Split league in 2, play everyone once =7 games. Then  play championship with a backdoor. = 2 games. 9 games total.

Also could be a few issues if leagues are split and CCC wants to go ahead with next years league restructure.

Yes some teams only get 4 games but I think whatever format it takes we need to get over the attitude of complaining about everything.

It's a global pandemic never seen before in our lifetime - let's just get on with it

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: WT4E on June 09, 2020, 09:57:18 AM
Quote from: Jimbop on June 08, 2020, 03:15:46 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 07, 2020, 11:27:08 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on June 06, 2020, 11:54:54 AM
Quote from: Jimbop on June 06, 2020, 11:19:53 AM
Wonder how they'll work the league. To get 15 league games in plus 4 championship games...youd need to basically play 2 games a week to get it played in 31 July - 11th October window.
Think the league bes played in a different format. Perhaps taking the form of the Jim Devlin league cups that used to be played.

Play each division in 4 groups of 4. 3 games each. Top 4 into semis, bottom 4 into relegation semis. 4 to 5 weeks to sort out ur league finalists and relegation.

Teams well warmed up for knock out champo played over 6 weeks or so.

Finish season with 3 league finals.

So some teams only get 4 games if they finish mid table in their group and lose 1st round of championship?
There's 11 club weeks. I think a minimum of 8 games (if not 10) should be played in order to keep players motivated. Split league in 2, play everyone once =7 games. Then  play championship with a backdoor. = 2 games. 9 games total.

Also could be a few issues if leagues are split and CCC wants to go ahead with next years league restructure.

Yes some teams only get 4 games but I think whatever format it takes we need to get over the attitude of complaining about everything.

It's a global pandemic never seen before in our lifetime - let's just get on with it

Agree, we're doing well to even be here. It's great to be focusing in again.

Louth GAA released their plans, I don't expect too much change really in and around any county. Championship as in normal, will be settled on day however. Regional League with no promotion or relegation. We can't really ask for much more considering the time frames involved.