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You really think that the DUP wil be happy with that and feel that they have achieved something?

Nick Cotton will be fuming I'd say on the inside but a brave face while standing at Stormont with Mr Smug

It's only an achievement if they can convince their supporters it's an achievement. The DUP do not want Brexit, many of their supporters do not want Brexit.
The only thing the DUP need is a bogey man. The bogey man in Brexit is the Irish Government. Usually it would be SF but SF have no role in Brexit. Then it would be the Prime Minister, but that won't wash this time. After next election Corbyn will be the devil and normality will resume for the DUP. Back to shouting at SF and the Prime Minister while being quite happy with the soft Brexit we will get.

[DUPUDA]

Listening to Gorman all week one would think the DUPUDA were the Government of the North and had about 60% of the population behind them.
Don't think there was a single word with SF, UUP, SDLP or Alliance.

Jesus lad!! Stop mimicking the DUP Ffs!

I've seen this pop up a few times. Must be a recent thing now that the DUP have a UK wide audience. It is petty.

Trying, failing, to make sense of this.....

If you don't want to do something then don't try.

As far as I recall DUPUDA hit 36% of the vote in the Westminster Election. Time the other 64% spoke up.

Again a job for the Media. Let's ask why Tommy Gorman doesn't highlight the views of the other 64%? He's intent on highlighting the DUP or SF. Has he ever reported from the business sector?

[Since Monday, however, it has become much clearer that the UK government's failures and incompetence on Brexit go wider and deeper. Ph]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/06/the-guardian-view-on-the-brexit-crisis-time-to-stop-the-fanatics

Since Monday, however, it has become much clearer that the UK government's failures and incompetence on Brexit go wider and deeper. Philip Hammond confirmed on Wednesday what this column had reported, that the cabinet has never at any time had a specific discussion about the kind of Brexit that it is aiming for. As Sir Keir Starmer said in a Guardian article, membership of the single market, the customs union and a role for the European court of justice were simply swept off the table as options by Theresa May's grossly irresponsible diktat of October 2016.

it's not a failure if you don't want to do it. The UK Government do not want Brexit and are trying to achieve as little Brexit as possible. The only shocking failure is the media and opposition reporting on this as a failure.

It's a f**k you to Muslims!!

He wants to be seen as the President who's tough on Islamist crime and it's hard to do that when there isn't any to speak of. Easier to stoke the fires and bring it upon himself and then act like the tough guy.

He's an absolute piece of shit!

It's a holy place for Christians too. Now he wants it to be the Capital of Zionism.

Is it in the hope to get an excuse to extend and rank the war on Terrorism?

He is a piece of Sh. I laughed him off as an idiot for too long. He is an idiot but not the buffoon type of idiot.

[Northern Ireland cannot stop it.]

But its the last line of the very same article that annoys the f**k out of me;

Northern Ireland cannot stop it.

It's not Northern Ireland it's the DUP and that message needs to get across from the rest of the parties in NI.

Michelle is beginning to make those soundings, but she needs to do it louder and to a wider audience. The SDLP and Alliance also. The UUP, who the f**k knows what they're at with Brexit.
Even Sylvia Hermon has called out this narrative.

I still don't get how "unionist" business leaders who trade outside the wee six aren't jumping up and down on the DUP for pulling the plug on a deal that would have meant a little more red tape when shipping to GB but at least the whole of the European union market would remain pretty seamless.

This is a job for journalism.

The real cost of his decision will probably be 5-10 Israeli lives and 50-70 Palestinian lives.

This can't be measured. Even in direct attacks it's closer to 5-230

This does not include deaths from injury later, death in custody or damage to infrastructure such as supply lines, hospitals, fuel stores, medicine, agriculture, schools etc that results in many more deaths.

[I can't understand it as it's obviously going to seriously inflame tensions,]

When even the American lapdogs in Saudi Arabia are publicly stating that it's a bad move, you know it's a huge mistake. I can't understand it as it's obviously going to seriously inflame tensions, but I suppose his financial backers must want it.

I can't understand it either. Is it purely Zionism?
I always thought there would be some sort of political or financial logic to decision this dangerous but I can't see one here. For a change it seems this is an entirely religious based decision. Unless I'm missing something?

I think you are giving the British way too much credit. Their approach has been more Basil Fawlty than anything. No doubt Ireland are in the waters with sharks, between the EU and the UK. If it wasn't all so serious, there's a certain amusement in the DUP making Ireland out to be the most vicious shark of the lot.

I didn't give them the credit. This is a joint up thing. When the UK negotiators are negotiating something they don't want to happen with the EU who don't want it to happen on behalf of people who don't want it to happen, they all get the credit.

Varadkar today - trying to make it clear that the DUP aren't (or shouldn't be anyway) the only show in town

He added: "I think we should listen to all parties in Northern Ireland and not accept this idea that seems to be gaining prevalence in some parts of London and maybe other places as well that there is only one party in Northern Ireland and that party speaks for everyone.

"I don't accept that premise, which seems to be accepted by too many people at the moment."

Good for Varadkar, although i don't know the context of the wider point.

He's coped onto the fact that so far he's been caught up in local politics and is back playing that game. Sadly this is an EU/UK issue we are caught up in.

[The DUP backed Brexit as a chance to wrap themselves in a flag]

The DUP backed Brexit as a chance to wrap themselves in a flag, believing that it would never be passed but that the chance to appear ultra-British would be great for their electoral success here whilst having absolutely no consequences. Low and behold the English and Welsh are even more stupid than the DUP thought. In their press conference the morning of the referendum result, Arlene looked like the ghost of Carson himself was standing infront of her waving a starry plough, they collectively sh*t themselves. Now they've realised it's happening they think they can make hay while the sun shines and try and reduce cross-border cooperation.

As did many others, this is why they are all going to take this soft Brexit eventually.

You are really giving them too much credit here!

When we look back later we will see it was what everyone wanted and so will see it as part of a process.
Regardless of how we see it in our bubble I've no doubt everyone was looking for an escape and it's easy when that happens.
Like the guy asking his friends to hold him back before a fight.

Nope JRM/Gove/Johnson and the Brexiteers are not happy staying in the single market or the customs union so who the f**k knows at this stage?!

There were no bigger Brexiteers than the DUP.
Now they just want to be the same, as do everyone else.

The narrative has changed, more and more will take this opt out.
There will still be clowns in to deep to get out. Might as well milk it while they can.

I already had the discussion and dismissed your viewpoint as totally unsupported by the actual events.

Last week

EU we're backing Ireland
Tories/DUP we want a soft border but want out of unions.
UK - We want out/we want in
Scotland we want in the EU
Ireland we want no border and special status

Today

EU say nothing
Ireland say nothing
DUP - we want same as UK
Scotland - we want same as UK
UK - We want the same for all UK- We want the same for all UK
Tories - We always intended it to be the same

Brexit with special status for everyone so.
These actual events?