The Many Faces of US Politics...

[seafoid]

Your numbers are way off

Was basing it on the average wage in the US being ~$38k a year. :shrugs:

Maybe you should live here for 20/30 years before you start "educating" us on how our healthcare system works

Someone earning $34 K per year in Boston is probably on Masshealth and paying next to nothing for their healthcare


Nationally:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kff.org/health-reform/fact-sheet/aca-open-enrollment-if-you-are-low-income/amp/

In general, you may be eligible for tax credits to lower your premium if you are single and your annual 2020 income is between $12,490 to $49,960 or if your household income is between $21,330 to $85,320 for a family of three (the lower income limits are higher in states that expanded Medicaid).

You don't have to be in the US to know that something that cost 5% of GDP now costs almost 18% of GDP.

[Eamonnca1]

Okay, sorry for the mishap with the last one, I've fixed it below, and the latest odds are at the bottom:

Delegate count:
Buttigieg 22
Sanders 21
Warren 8
Klobuchar 7
Biden 6
Bloomberg 0

Betting odds for 2020 winner:

Trump 8/13
Sanders 4/1
Bloomberg 9/1
Biden 20/1

Bloomberg took a hiding last night. He was like a duck out of water. Warren obliterated him. Will be interesting to see how that affects the polling numbers over the next few days, and if his high burn rate can take the bad look off it. I just wish he'd get out of the race and put his money into something useful like flipping the 4 senate seats we're going to need.

Odds update:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 7/2 (3.5/1)
Bloomberg: 8/1
Biden: 22/1

Bernie's odds moving in the right direction. Biden, not so much.

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:8/1
Biden: 9/1

Update:
Delegate count:
Sanders 31
Buttigieg 22
Warren 8
Biden 8
Klobuchar 7
Bloomberg 0

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 25/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 5/6
Bloomberg: 4/1
Buttigieg:11/1
Biden: 11/1

Interesting that Chrome still thinks "Buttigieg" is a typo.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 29/10 (2.9/1)
Bloomberg: 10/1
Biden: 28/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 4/5
Bloomberg: 4/1
Biden: 10/1
Buttigieg:12/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 3/1
Bloomberg: 12/1
Biden: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 4/1
Bloomberg: 11/2
Buttigieg:20/1

Bloomberg and Buttigeig getting it tight.

Bernie's odds are slipping slightly in the general election, but he's still the favourite to get the nomination.

2020 winner:
Trump: 8/13
Sanders: 10/3 (3.3/1)
Biden: 9/1
Bloomberg: 12/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 10/11
Biden: 13/4
Bloomberg: 6/1
Buttigieg:20/1

This stock market crash might throw a spanner in the works. It was this kind of October surprise that worked in Obama's favor in 2008 when "the fundamentals of our economy [were] strong" until they weren't. Trump might cruise to reelection if the economy stays strong, but the coronavirus could change all that.

Get in there Bernie!

Delegate count:
Sanders: 58
Biden: 50
Buttigeig: 26 (I wonder what happens to delegates after a candidate pulls out)
Warren: 8
Klobuchar: 7

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/6
Sanders: 3/1
Biden: 13/2 (6.5/1)
Bloomberg: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Sanders: 1/1
Biden: 5/2
Bloomberg: 7/1
Hillary Clinton(!): 33/1

This is the first we've seen Trump's odds moving in a while. Could be the coronavirus effect. Damned if I know why they're showing odds for Hillary instead of the likes of Warren or Klobuchar who are actually in the race.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11
Biden: 6/4
Sanders: 18/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/8
Sanders: 9/1

Trump getting it tight. Looking good for Biden if these odds keep moving the way they are. If he puts Warren on his ticket as VP, that should pick up enough Bernie supporters in November. This could be the light at the end of the tunnel.

Delegate count:
Biden 664
Sanders 573

2020 winner:
Trump: 4/5
Biden: 13/8 (1.6/1)
Sanders: 16/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/7
Sanders: 9/1

Delegate count:
Biden 857
Sanders 709

2020 winner:
Trump: 10/11 (1/1.1)
Biden: 13/10 (1.3/1)
Sanders: No longer in the top 4

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/14
Sanders: 40/1

2020 winner:
Trump: 1/1
Biden: 15/13
Sanders: 50/1
Deval Patrick: 50/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/16
Sanders: 33/1

The trend is unmistakable.

2020 winner:
Trump: 11/10
Biden: 11/10
Sanders: 33/1
Deval Patrick: 33/1

Democratic candidate:
Biden: 1/12
Sanders: 25/1

Game over for Trump, it seems. Although it's a long way to November, but I'm not sure how he can come back from this. He can't lie or spin his way out of this. Not even Fox News can help him when the dead start piling up.

[dec]

Trump is giving a live speech from the Rose Garden at the White House to declare a national emergency.

Summary
Trump: Everything I did was great
Various CEOs: Our companies are great and thank you Mr President
Pence: Spends his entire speech kissing Trumps ass

[macdanger2]

Trump is giving a live speech from the Rose Garden at the White House to declare a national emergency.

Summary
Trump: Everything I did was great
Various CEOs: Our companies are great and thank you Mr President
Pence: Spends his entire speech kissing Trumps ass

The flowchart was unbelievable 

[seafoid]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/

It has taken a good deal longer than it should have, but Americans have now seen the con man behind the curtain. The president, enraged for having been unmasked, will become more desperate, more embittered, more unhinged. He knows nothing will be the same. His administration may stagger on, but it will be only a hollow shell. The Trump presidency is over.

[whitey]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/

It has taken a good deal longer than it should have, but Americans have now seen the con man behind the curtain. The president, enraged for having been unmasked, will become more desperate, more embittered, more unhinged. He knows nothing will be the same. His administration may stagger on, but it will be only a hollow shell. The Trump presidency is over.

I think he's toast, but then the Democrats could also completely screw it up like they did in 2016

If anyone has the time, read the Fifth Risk by Michael Lewis (it will blow your mind)

[J70]

Coronavirus won't matter a f**k in the election if its over by the summer.
His lying, narcissism, anti-intellectualism and corruption are well baked-in at this stage.

[five points]

The funny thing is that coronavirus is vindicating Trump's opposition to open borders. If anyone had told us a year ago that Angela Merkel would today be closing Germany's borders, they wouldn't have been believed. The Democrats will have their work cut out to justify their strong support to date for open borders.

[whitey]

Coronavirus won't matter a f**k in the election if its over by the summer.
His lying, narcissism, anti-intellectualism and corruption are well baked-in at this stage.

If fewer than 12,469 people die.....he's got a great chance (That's how many died when Sleepy Joe was in charge of the Swine Flu epidemic)

[J70]

Coronavirus won't matter a f**k in the election if its over by the summer.
His lying, narcissism, anti-intellectualism and corruption are well baked-in at this stage.

If fewer than 12,469 people die.....he's got a great chance (That's how many died when Sleepy Joe was in charge of the Swine Flu epidemic)

Luckily for all of us, we're not really depending on him stepping up, at least to date. Be really fucked if we were. The states and cities are way ahead of him, thankfully.

I'll bet you he's fuming privately about Fauci, a genuinely noble professional and expert who has completely upstaged his bluster and self-centred, transparently political, lies and blame-shifting.

But yeah, Fox News et al. are trying to make hay comparing the two outbreaks and the respective responses to them. It would be a very interesting exercise to go back and examine the contemporary responses. They don't really appear to be hitting the mark so far though.

[J70]

The funny thing is that coronavirus is vindicating Trump's opposition to open borders. If anyone had told us a year ago that Angela Merkel would today be closing Germany's borders, they wouldn't have been believed. The Democrats will have their work cut out to justify their strong support to date for open borders.

Not really.

1. They don't support "open borders".
2. You can control your borders without ludicrous walls.
3. Humane immigration policies and treatment of illegals as human beings, not animals, is a completely different issue from temporarily closing the border amidst an epidemic that is exacerbated by modern mass travel and interconnectedness of countries.

[whitey]

Coronavirus won't matter a f**k in the election if its over by the summer.
His lying, narcissism, anti-intellectualism and corruption are well baked-in at this stage.

If fewer than 12,469 people die.....he's got a great chance (That's how many died when Sleepy Joe was in charge of the Swine Flu epidemic)

Luckily for all of us, we're not really depending on him stepping up, at least to date. Be really fucked if we were. The states and cities are way ahead of him, thankfully.

I'll bet you he's fuming privately about Fauci, a genuinely noble professional and expert who has completely upstaged his bluster and self-centred, transparently political, lies and blame-shifting.

But yeah, Fox News et al. are trying to make hay comparing the two outbreaks and the respective responses to them. It would be a very interesting exercise to go back and examine the contemporary responses. They don't really appear to be hitting the mark so far though.

As we discovered in 2016 the truth doesn't matter-what people think is the truth is what matters (and the Democrats play this game just as good as the Republicans-just look at the Kavanaugh hearings)

[five points]

The funny thing is that coronavirus is vindicating Trump's opposition to open borders. If anyone had told us a year ago that Angela Merkel would today be closing Germany's borders, they wouldn't have been believed. The Democrats will have their work cut out to justify their strong support to date for open borders.

Not really.

1. They don't support "open borders".
2. You can control your borders without ludicrous walls.
3. Humane immigration policies and treatment of illegals as human beings, not animals, is a completely different issue from temporarily closing the border amidst an epidemic that is exacerbated by modern mass travel and interconnectedness of countries.

Even if Trump concedes these points (which he certainly won't), he'll just remind everyone that a long list of prominent Democrats, including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,  Elizabeth Warren, Kirsten Gillibrand and Bill de Blasio have called for the scrapping of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

They've handed him a stick which he can use to blame them for the 'foreign' virus.

[J70]

The funny thing is that coronavirus is vindicating Trump's opposition to open borders. If anyone had told us a year ago that Angela Merkel would today be closing Germany's borders, they wouldn't have been believed. The Democrats will have their work cut out to justify their strong support to date for open borders.

Not really.

1. They don't support "open borders".
2. You can control your borders without ludicrous walls.
3. Humane immigration policies and treatment of illegals as human beings, not animals, is a completely different issue from temporarily closing the border amidst an epidemic that is exacerbated by modern mass travel and interconnectedness of countries.

Even if Trump concedes these points (which he certainly won't), he'll just remind everyone that a long list of prominent Democrats, including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,  Elizabeth Warren, Kirsten Gillibrand and Bill de Blasio have called for the scrapping of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

They've handed him a stick with which he can use to blame them for the 'foreign' virus.

I seriously doubt if Trump will want to fight this election on the coronavirus and his response to it.

Plenty of attack ad material in there for Biden.

Regardless, at this stage, none of us know where we'll be in six months anyway.

[five points]

I seriously doubt if Trump will want to fight this election on the coronavirus and his response to it.

Plenty of attack ad material in there for Biden.

Regardless, at this stage, none of us know where we'll be in six months anyway.

It will be an issue. Not a doubt about that.