Brolly and Spillane Etc

[trueblue1234]

I'd be interested in these times being listed. I've watched the game twice and have to say I didn't see much negativity from either side and less than most games I've watched so far.
Some people fail to think for themselves and just listen to the pundits.

[J70]

J70, you are obviously an imformed fan of football. You say you only seen the last few minutes of Sunday's game. Might I suggest you get a copy of it and watch it all. It will be refreshing for you after watching Donegal for the last 18 months.

Save the childishness for the Liverpool thread.

[Bensars]

Very simple. Brolly knows that Ulster football is in decline in comaprison to a few years ago, with the Euros and  Olympics and other distractions  the interest may not be as great as other years (this early in year). He also knows that Tyrone have a healthy  follwing ( and supporters invariably will take the bait ) and any controversy keeps him popular and current, and more importantly controversial pieces sell papers and getTV ratings.

Cant believe so many seem to have taken  the bait .

In short a media hoor keeping his profile active.

[Tyrone Dreamer]

This wasn't meant to turn into a thread about Tyrone or Armagh. I used Sundays game as an example because I had just watched the coverage. The aim of the thread was to point out the lack of balance in the coverage being given by RTE. The panelists always seem to look for negatives in everything and don't give enough time to the positive elements of the game.

There was multiple great scores during the game which should have been focused on. Instead Brolly described Tyrone as boring and defending their lead etc  which was bordering on stupid considering the scoreline and the room afforded to Clarke.

It has become obvious that both he and Spillane don't analyse the game in hand. They have things they want to say and will say them no matter what happens during the game. The games are being short changed by inept pundits focusing on their own agenda. There is no need to compare the games to matches 20 and 30 years ago every single week. Last week they criticised the quality of Longford and Wexford and described it as modern football. I wonder how the quality would have compared to a game 20 and 30 years ago between 2 teams so far down the pecking order.

[Tyrone Dreamer]

Very simple. Brolly knows that Ulster football is in decline in comaprison to a few years ago, with the Euros and  Olympics and other distractions  the interest may not be as great as other years (this early in year). He also knows that Tyrone have a staunch follwing and any controversy keeps him popular and current, and more importantly controversial pieces sell papers and getTV ratings.

Cant believe so many seem to have taken  the bait .

In short a media hoor keeping his profile active.

The last bit is probably exactly what he's doing. But the games deserve proper analysis and not some lazy sensationalist crap thrown out just so that Brolly can keep getting attention. Its up to the gaa to act and ask rte to review their coverage.

[Bensars]

If you had a child that constantly craved attention, what would you do ? Ignore them. 

This is someone who in their playing days used to blow kisses to the crowd after scoring a goal. He has an ego that needs massaged.

His days are numbered, the format looks tired, he no longer gets the reaction he once did as people realise he is controversial for sake of it. If the rest of the panel said black, he'd say white.

This thread is the reaction he could be  looking for.  if i was you i would delete it . Simples

[EC Unique]

J70, you are obviously an imformed fan of football. You say you only seen the last few minutes of Sunday's game. Might I suggest you get a copy of it and watch it all. It will be refreshing for you after watching Donegal for the last 18 months.

Save the childishness for the Liverpool thread.

Fair enough J70 it was a bit tongue in cheek but you should watch it. It was a cracker.

[scoopmine]

In regards to Spillane and Brolly its the same reason Parkinson was on the Sunday game its to get people talking. Its the difference when people the next day can say "did hear what such and such said? He's a bollox!" Brolly is cute, Spillane is cute they would not be the two most high profile pundits in the game. Most GAA fans cop this will take their opinion with a pinch of salt.

[Whishtup]

After Sunday's bletherings, I reckon Spillane is that wee bit cuter-Brolly has now shown his hand in being sensationalist for the sake of it.  On what was a good oul' day for Ulster football,  you'd wonder what his loyalties are $$$

[Fuzzman]

Whilst some in here have got distracted from what the initial question was I too STRONGLY believe that some pundits like Spillane, Brolly, Dunphy and to a lesser extent McHugh use their positions in the media to be controversial and therefore try to be become more infamous.

I'd say if RTE were to do a proper survey of how many viewers of TSG like Brolly and Spillane I think they'd be shocked how many would throw them out
The problem is RTE are happy to see these selfish fools drag down the name of the association just to make more interesting TV in their eyes

[J70]

J70, you are obviously an imformed fan of football. You say you only seen the last few minutes of Sunday's game. Might I suggest you get a copy of it and watch it all. It will be refreshing for you after watching Donegal for the last 18 months.

Save the childishness for the Liverpool thread.

Fair enough J70 it was a bit tongue in cheek but you should watch it. It was a cracker.

Good enough EC.

[hayeser]

I cannot believe the gaa are sitting back and letting RTE drag the name of the game through the muck. They say they're worried about attendances, well its hard not to believe the constant attacks from Brolly and Spillane for self gain are doing the games image significant harm. Both of them know exactly what they want to say before every game and throw it out no matter how good or bad the game is. This was evidenced by there attack on the Longford Wexford game which given the standings off both teams was a decent game.

I don't think there is another sport in the world analysed by the pundits in a similar way to gaelic football. No match is analysed on its own merit instead a series of generalisations about the game and comparisons to 30 given years ago are made. Its ridiculous that these guys get paid for it.

I 100% agree. It's not the blanket defense that is killing Gaelic football it is the constant negativity that is coming from the media.

Prior to the property crash how many people who knew zero about economics did you hear saying over their pints "ah sure twill be a soft landing ...". A few politicians voiced that opinion to keep people spending and low and behold the masses were only too happy to take it on as their own opinion.   

The media is very powerful and Tyrone Dreamer is spot on Gaelic Football is getting a very very raw deal from the Sunday Game pundits in particular. They are doing much more to demote the game than promote it. I agree the GAA need to act. The whole idea of TV coverage is to promote the game but if the people behind the mike are doing their best to run down the product then surely it is counter productive. Newstalk are getting a few championship games and are doing a fantastic job of creating a sense of occasion and promoting the game that they are doing.

It is interesing to look at what Gaelic Football is being hammered for too
- not enough kicking,
- too many behind the ball
- too much pulling and dragging.

Firstly the game is evolving tactically, that is a good thing. Secondly, how about Rugby Football? It has never been more popular, yet everyone is behind the ball, the vast majority of passes are by hand and is constant pulling and dragging, however it is a massively hyped and spun positively in the media..

[Fuzzman]

Well said Haysayer but the problem is I can't see RTE being dictated to by anyone, even the GAA.
Yes they could say we're not gonna do business with you any more and move to TV3 or dare I say it SKY. Nah.

I for one would be happy to start a campaign to change the crap we're having to put up with.
How many people have we read on this board say that they don't listen to the analysis part any more.

The analysis given on here by EmmetRyan is much more interesting than what we listen to on RTE.
Why can't we get more of that.
In fairness to McStay he was very complimentary of the Tyrone Armagh game last week and even said that in the past it wasn't always so.

I used to like Brolly when he was always trying to question Spillane and give the Ulster side of the story but I think he's moved on to a new stage now. I've heard loads who know Joe say he ALWAYS has to be the centre of attention and isn't happy to sit back and not be Mr funnyman. Doesn't like being a yes man like say Davis or some of the other more quieter lads.

[Orchardman]

After Sunday's bletherings, I reckon Spillane is that wee bit cuter-Brolly has now shown his hand in being sensationalist for the sake of it.  On what was a good oul' day for Ulster football,  you'd wonder what his loyalties are $$$

But that's the thing, spillane isn't even cute, he's terrible ( i liked brolly years ago, but his time's done now as well, pure dose). Spillane comes out with usual riddles about "bastardises basketball, blanket defence, long ball into full forward". I don't mind sensationism, in fact i don't have much time for soccer yet i love to listen to eamon dunphy, especially when ireland/ man utd and others have been beaten in big games, and he goes off on a rant, but a good rant. Spillane also writes a terrible piece in the sunday world, which has crap gaa coverage, in fact he fits in well with roy curtis who must be the worst journo in the world.

By the way, was watching kerry and dublin 1976 on TG4 this week, spillane really was the real deal, brilliant footballer who would also the best footballer in the modern era as well if he was playing.

[From the Bunker]

After Sunday's bletherings, I reckon Spillane is that wee bit cuter-Brolly has now shown his hand in being sensationalist for the sake of it.  On what was a good oul' day for Ulster football,  you'd wonder what his loyalties are $$$

But that's the thing, spillane isn't even cute, he's terrible ( i liked brolly years ago, but his time's done now as well, pure dose). Spillane comes out with usual riddles about "bastardises basketball, blanket defence, long ball into full forward". I don't mind sensationism, in fact i don't have much time for soccer yet i love to listen to eamon dunphy, especially when ireland/ man utd and others have been beaten in big games, and he goes off on a rant, but a good rant. Spillane also writes a terrible piece in the sunday world, which has crap gaa coverage, in fact he fits in well with roy curtis who must be the worst journo in the world.

By the way, was watching kerry and dublin 1976 on TG4 this week, spillane really was the real deal, brilliant footballer who would also the best footballer in the modern era as well if he was playing.

Only get to see the Sunday World when i go to the inlaws for a weekend, would never buy such a paper! Curtis one weekend, covered Irish Soccer, Ireland Rugby and Hurling. Giving his 'Specialist' view on all.