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New angle on this. The GPA has stated that they would not accept applications from any of the 2009 panel for membership, not that they have received any.

Charlie is an idiot, and should have left well alone becuase its not the GPA who decides who s an Inter-County player but the various CBs.

He should have left well enough alone.

att GAA
here is what gerry o sulllivan wrote in yesterdays programne

the pedigree of our own bainisteoir gerald mccarthy is legendary and has been well documented.He along with his backroom team has experienced a difficult start to 2009 but in typical fashion he has given everything to the job(on and off the field) and continues to fulfil the task for which he was mandated.
He and his management team deserve the full support of all gaelic games followers in this most renowned of gaelic games counties.We wish him every succuess in his efforts to ensure the continuation of corks place at the top of the hurling tree.
Best wishes also to the players who have the honour and privelege of wearing the cork jersey today.

where do you make out Gaa that he supports the players
you have some sources there boy, is it a child by any chance

RealRebel he must by definition be a coward (after all he is a member of the CB) and a FM stooge!!!!! Or so some will claim

[FANS]

Does anyone know why the players have not contacted the club chairmen as they said they would at their press conference. They said that if they had not the backing of the clubs then they would disband as a group. Up to this the weekend they had not contacted our chairman and as far as I know they had not contacted any other club. Are they afraid of the answer they will get or was it more PR stuff.

And you know they haven't? Again you have no proof to your allegations..yet here we are again.
They said if they didn't have the backing of the FANS they'd disband.

They said the clubs!!!

Reillers, answer may earlier question about how many motions you proposed at your local club's AGM raising all these issues you say are so evident with FM and the CB?

Lads,

Will you stop posting so Reillers and The GAA can pop down to their clubs to post those motions they need to post, and that the rest of Cork GAA has not the balls to.

I know some of these peope feel deeply hurt by the slurs cast on them

Yet you portray the players as motivated by greed?

Not all of them and I think at this stage they do not know themselves what their motivation is such is their fury and rage against someone or something. However I have reason to believe that some players felt that if Ger Mac was reappointed and given what they said about him then their careers were over. For some commercial interests are tied up with their careers and to some degree may have influenced their views. I did not intend to give the impression that this was their only motivation and apologise if I did. However the FM/CB dysfunctional issue serves their purpose - this is the main point I was making.

This FM/CB issues serves no one at all.
You talk of motivation and greed but you defend Murphy while at the same time you say you are up on things in Cork GAA..none of which makes sense put together.
But none are backed and are as much rumours as the rumours about the players. And there is no fact or proof, no matter what or who says so. So I will not bring up things that would be very insulting if they weren't true so I wont mention them. I'd hope you'd do the same with stories that are nothing more then just that, stories with no backing or proof. 

Reillers and The GAA don't see anyone defending FM. All people are saying is that they find it hard to believe that FM controls everyone in the Cork GAA, and that if he is so hated he would be out.

New point been made in the last few pages is whether you two gentlemen have gone down to you clubs AGMs to table and support a motion to get rid of him or change all things wrong in Cork GAA? To which you have both refused to answer, coming up with the simple reponse you cannot due to politics

The GAA is one of the most democratic organisations despite your opinion otherwise

[FM has to be dealt with by the clubs,]

Solution.

All '08 players walk away. Gerard McCarty walks away. Too simple but probably only way to break the impasse. Tough on all concerned but they have maybe all dug their graves.

FM has to be dealt with by the clubs, of which all '08 players are members, becuase if the clubs, hence the members of the GAA, want him out he is going.

Flaw in the plan - he can't be

No flaw in the plan. Maybe a flaw in the spine of all the people complaining about Hitler.

Jesus for 20 yrs people in Cork have been bitching about him and you have done nothing about it. The only conclusion is that people don't really want him out becuase no one, absolutely no one, is really tyring to get him out.

So he has control of all, or the majoirty of the clubs and their committees? Hence he controls all their votes thus implying he controls all their members as well???

Stretching the imagination beyond the limits that.

Solution.

All '08 players walk away. Gerard McCarty walks away. Too simple but probably only way to break the impasse. Tough on all concerned but they have maybe all dug their graves.

FM has to be dealt with by the clubs, of which all '08 players are members, becuase if the clubs, hence the members of the GAA, want him out he is going.

Big test for Dublin and the new manager today - a game they're 1-4 to win. This is a must win game for Dublin - they ought to win handy.

And a job duly done..with 3 goals to spare

[The CB are, in large, cowards, they wont and can't fight the CB. The only people with "guts" to do so are the players.]

As I said earlier, it doesn't matter a jot how many were at the march or not, how  many were at the match today or not.

What matters is that there is a strike on by the 2008 panel and they need to bring about change in a democratic way. The Provos eventually realised that the ONLY way to make political change was not by bombing themselves to the table, but by taking the democratic and political route. The Brits would have fought them for another 30 years - not a problem - and would the Brits have cared if the war carried on ? No way.


So if the strikers want to effect change, standing outside the door and refusing to come into the room will get them nowhere.


If the strikers have the support you claim they have, let them all go back to the clubs, bring their mandate to the CB and make change from within.


But I suspect that this is NOT going to happen.


Why ??


Simple - they haven't got universal support or anything near it.

It shows how people feel does it not.

And if they stand in the door, nothing will be achieved and we'll be stuck in a rut for another two years.
The CB are, in large, cowards, they wont and can't fight the CB. The only people with "guts" to do so are the players.
IF they go back, that'll be that and the CB will have all power and control and we'll have nothing.
I know for a fact and people are bloody well clear of this, that more then one time people have gone to the CB meeting and voted against what the clubs have told them to do.
You know nothing of Cork politics so why bother pretending like you do.

Your comments are fundementally disgraceful, and it highlights the arrogance of the '08 panel who in some way believe themselves to be Gods and martyrs to the cause. You and they can throw muck at anyone as suits, trying to paint people who have given their life to the GAA as some sort of monsters.

Also the bold is a bit of a stupid statment...the CB can't fight the CB??

Also all the time the delegates are voting against the clubs wishes and the clubs just sit there and let them, time after time after time....would you ever go....

They are all democratically elected and they are all know so either put up or shut up, list out which members of the County Boards are cowards and highlight why.

Ya you'd know would ya.
Try putting things forward, try having people up and down this county and having them voted against because poor FM wants them to.
Not all of them are cowards but at times I really want to ring their necks. They've no right to use the power that they have the way they do, they refuse to listen to the average fan and by doing so you have a massive lack of trust and relationship built up between both sides.
Oh it's democratic it's this it's that, it's by the book, yet ALL the time, not sometimes, all the time the votes are always lopsided in whatever way FM wants them to be, 83-7, 92-8..etc.
Yes Frank, No Frank, 3 bags full Frank. Carry on with the funding and we wont complain. The players called it saying, questioning when was the last time we ever had a debate in the CB that went to something. People vote the way Frank wants them to.
A perfect example of this was the Holland issue, all in favour of keeping him in the job one week, a week later FM changes his mind and all in favour of sacking him.
Nothing in Cork GAA is "democratically elected." Nothing in Cork GAA is fair and very little is for the best interest of the GAA itself in Cork.

Reilliers I asked you to list out the cowards, since the names on the County Board are all known. Where is the list?

Then why would you be as backward as to rehash ground that we have covered extensively?
did you think you were making an astonishing eureka statment?

Becuase again today you made a reference to the fact that the players are the only ones standing up to the CB....blah...blah...blah.

So you is threading over old ground?

By definition with this statement you postulate the players as these mighty hero's whilst everyone else in Cork GAA, and clubs included, are lacking any intellilectual capability to put coherent thought together, and if they ever managed to do so have no balls to follow up. Hence the players ride in on white horses.

there were plenty tickets available around tralee for yesterdays game which i found very surprising. guess when LR is finished the irfu will not now need to come back to CP. the only two games likely to need it were france and england

Not only do they not need but they can't! They sold the Corporate Boxes in LR based on ALL Irish rugby internationals so if they go over to Croker they have no right to them or the Premium level. So you may hear some bluster in the future about them needing Croker but fundementally they can never.

Ah come off it. If people in Cork really wanted Hitler out they would do something about it themselves. You telling me he controls all clubs and members in Cork. No one in Cork has the balls to stand up to him?? They have been moaning about Hitler for 20 yrs or more and done nothing. Nothing to do with Croker and its best the rest of the GAA stay out of it.

And why should Croke Park get involved? Cork don't want it solved

I assume the fact that you have only 30 posts down means that you haven't been looking in while we dabated all your questions to death over the last couple of months

You assume wrong.

Oh, and despite what people who live on forums may presume, high post count does not equal high intellectual count.

[The CB are, in large, cowards, they wont and can't fight the CB. The only people with "guts" to do so are the players.]

As I said earlier, it doesn't matter a jot how many were at the march or not, how  many were at the match today or not.

What matters is that there is a strike on by the 2008 panel and they need to bring about change in a democratic way. The Provos eventually realised that the ONLY way to make political change was not by bombing themselves to the table, but by taking the democratic and political route. The Brits would have fought them for another 30 years - not a problem - and would the Brits have cared if the war carried on ? No way.


So if the strikers want to effect change, standing outside the door and refusing to come into the room will get them nowhere.


If the strikers have the support you claim they have, let them all go back to the clubs, bring their mandate to the CB and make change from within.


But I suspect that this is NOT going to happen.


Why ??


Simple - they haven't got universal support or anything near it.

It shows how people feel does it not.

And if they stand in the door, nothing will be achieved and we'll be stuck in a rut for another two years.
The CB are, in large, cowards, they wont and can't fight the CB. The only people with "guts" to do so are the players.
IF they go back, that'll be that and the CB will have all power and control and we'll have nothing.
I know for a fact and people are bloody well clear of this, that more then one time people have gone to the CB meeting and voted against what the clubs have told them to do.
You know nothing of Cork politics so why bother pretending like you do.

Your comments are fundementally disgraceful, and it highlights the arrogance of the '08 panel who in some way believe themselves to be Gods and martyrs to the cause. You and they can throw muck at anyone as suits, trying to paint people who have given their life to the GAA as some sort of monsters.

Also the bold is a bit of a stupid statment...the CB can't fight the CB??

Also all the time the delegates are voting against the clubs wishes and the clubs just sit there and let them, time after time after time....would you ever go....

They are all democratically elected and they are all know so either put up or shut up, list out which members of the County Boards are cowards and highlight why.

It was the pro Gerald/CB fans turn to turn out and there was only 2000 of them. The excuse of it only being a League match is useless, it was their chance to back them and the results was obvious.

And the crowds response to the players were like parents at an u12 match when their kids lost. It was pathetic. If that's the best the pro Gerald fans could come up with then it's obvious which sides fans won.

12,000 to 2000.

The result speaks for itself.

Yes the results speaks for itself, Cork Hurling lost all becuase of the '08 Hurlers.

Pillar Caffrey was on duty in the Cusack Stand at yesterdays game, great to see him back in Croke Park so soon. 

Shows the importance of Dulbin to the GAA that the cluchies take every chance to take about us. Pure Envy I suppose.

This shows the level of education of some Dubs!

Maybe, but why spend some much time talking about us or referring to us if we are irrelevant?