2019 USFC SF Dún na nGall vs Tír Eoghain, Breffni, Saturday 8th June @5pm

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, May 26, 2019, 09:58:57 PM

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Fear ón Srath Bán

No hiding under any bushes or lights under bushels here, Donegal will need to step up their ability to work scores, and we'll need to keep 'er lit, defensive-wise for something like the 70, whilst keeping the attacking pressure on.

Unlikely to be a repeat of 2018 in Ballybofey perhaps, but would still be surprised not to prevail here.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

J70

I'd agree. We are definitely going in as underdogs here. Think it will be tight enough (and tense and bad tempered), but Tyrone will pull through with three or four points to spare in the end.

Fuzzman


Quarterback

This is going to be nip and tuck - Donegal are very strong team and nothing like Tyrone have played to date.

trailer

Quote from: Quarterback on May 27, 2019, 10:41:30 AM
This is going to be nip and tuck - Donegal are very strong team and nothing like Tyrone have played to date.

They played them last year, and the year before that and the year before that.... They're exactly the team Tyrone have played to date.

Tyrone by 6.

Jayop

Expecting a really tasty game here, a lot more expansive than the last few Ulster championship encounters which were defend the 45 fests. Still plenty of bad blood between the counties so it won't be all pretty football but should be the biggest game of the season so far in football and will hopefully live up to its billing.

Tyrone should pull through in the end by a few points but I'm far from cocky about it and a Donegal win wouldn't be a big surprise.

Fuzzman

Donegal will be still smarting from last year where they probably expected to beat Tyrone in their own back yard as usual and thought they had a great chance to get to an AI final and be back with the big boys.

It didn't turn out that way but with Jamie Brennan outshining his Tyrone namesake and Paddy McBrearty looking sharp they can now afford to leave Murphy out around the midfield sector where he is harder to bottle up.
Another year's experience for the new lads coming through and with players like McLoone and Ryan McHugh still to the fore, one would be very naive to write this Donegal team off.
Most of would hope that they very cagey defensive style of both teams is now left behind but you would wonder with so much to lose or maybe so much to be gained from getting to an Ulster final, would both teams be tempted to revert to possession football and not "leave the ball in early".

One would imagine McShane in particular will be in for a much more robust day at the office with Neil McGee still well able to out bully most full forwards. I would hope both McShane and Mattie would play as a two man full forward line and Tyrone try to keep them guessing will they go long or run the ball. Peter Harte showed he still has the pace and guile to run hard with the ball and create goal chances but Niall Sludden has certainly fell back quite a bit from his own high standards and with such a strong looking bench I for one would rather see someone else given a chance. However, Mickey seems very loyal to most of his regulars and he will probably start.

You would imagine Tyrone would edge things on the line with Mickey Harte's experience over the lovable Declan Bonnar but we've already seen a few surprises this year and I for one will be very uneasy going into this game and can certainly not see there being more than a point or two in it.

Jayop

Mcbrearty missing from the super 8 game last year can't be underestimated. Huge factor. That said not sure can we really read much into this game from past encounters with Tyrone having changed so much. Us being more attacking will certainly suit donegal and you've seen in the two Tyrone games so far that no sweeper is leaving us very soft in the middle. The likes of McHugh charging through there will see them get goal chances for sure.

J70

"Lovable Declan Bonner"?

Christ, can you boys not let it go? Each side believed and stood by their own and said so publicly. Its been four years. Time to move on.

BTW we are very happy thus far with Declan in Donegal. Got us playing good football. Guided a generation of very promising players through to senior from young teenage grade, with some underage success along the way. Became only the third Donegal manager to win Ulster, right after the frustration of the Rory Gallagher years. Not too shabby at all. 8)

JoG2

I really think this Donegal teaming is building nicely. There's serious fire power there and they've a bucketload of powerful runners and tigerish defenders, and of course Michael Murphy. Donegal to win by 2/3 and will retain their Ulster crown

ck

This has a Donegal win written all over it for me. Donegal probably have better players all over the park and certainly have better firepower. Tyrone will struggle to shut down Murphy, McBrearty, Brennan et al. I think Tyrone are very decent but compare their attacking threats and how they are depending on for scores, McShane and Donnelly who are probably midfielders more than attackers. Tyrones trump card is their sideline and their ability to make changes to win the game. I don't think Donegal possess that craft in Bonner. If it's tight Mickey Harte will come to the fore.. but I think Donegal will overpower them with their attack.

Donegal by 5

Redhand Santa

Quote from: ck on May 29, 2019, 12:50:47 PM
This has a Donegal win written all over it for me. Donegal probably have better players all over the park and certainly have better firepower. Tyrone will struggle to shut down Murphy, McBrearty, Brennan et al. I think Tyrone are very decent but compare their attacking threats and how they are depending on for scores, McShane and Donnelly who are probably midfielders more than attackers. Tyrones trump card is their sideline and their ability to make changes to win the game. I don't think Donegal possess that craft in Bonner. If it's tight Mickey Harte will come to the fore.. but I think Donegal will overpower them with their attack.

Donegal by 5

Couldn't agree with that at all. Tyrone have beaten Donegal 3 times in a row in the championship with a lot of the better players involved in both sides. Two of those victories where comfortable. Tyrone also operated in division 1 beating Dublin and Galway whereas Donegal struggled to get out division 2. If Donegal had better players all over the park I don't think these things would have happened.

I'd be happy enough now with the way we're playing that we've as much firepower if not more than Donegal. Murphy and McBreaty can both be hit and miss in big games.

The Bearded One

Fermanagh held this Donegal firepower to 15 points, 3 of which were in added time at the end of the game when Fermanagh were chasing scores.

Donegal have attacking threats, so do Tyrone. Donegal played 2 out and out defenders against Fermanagh, namely McMenamin and McGee, otherwise they had 4 attack minded 'defenders' in McLoone, McHugh, Gallagher and McGrath, knowing they didn't need to be overly defensive against Fermanagh. I predict their personnel will change next day out to leave more protection for Magee and McMenamin, otherwise Tyrone's running game will hurt them. Both keepers will have a big influence, Donegal didn't lose a kickout the last day out, Tyrone will exert more pressure on them hopefully.

Both teams will fancy their chances in this one, going with Tyrone by a small margin with the players coming in from bench making a difference on the day. 
It is what it is. Presumably.

tyrone08

Quote from: Redhand Santa on May 29, 2019, 01:42:56 PM
Quote from: ck on May 29, 2019, 12:50:47 PM
This has a Donegal win written all over it for me. Donegal probably have better players all over the park and certainly have better firepower. Tyrone will struggle to shut down Murphy, McBrearty, Brennan et al. I think Tyrone are very decent but compare their attacking threats and how they are depending on for scores, McShane and Donnelly who are probably midfielders more than attackers. Tyrones trump card is their sideline and their ability to make changes to win the game. I don't think Donegal possess that craft in Bonner. If it's tight Mickey Harte will come to the fore.. but I think Donegal will overpower them with their attack.

Donegal by 5

Couldn't agree with that at all. Tyrone have beaten Donegal 3 times in a row in the championship with a lot of the better players involved in both sides. Two of those victories where comfortable. Tyrone also operated in division 1 beating Dublin and Galway whereas Donegal struggled to get out division 2. If Donegal had better players all over the park I don't think these things would have happened.

I'd be happy enough now with the way we're playing that we've as much firepower if not more than Donegal. Murphy and McBreaty can both be hit and miss in big games.

I would agree with this both McBreaty and Murphy have been marked out of it in numerous past games. Seem to be  lot of confidence in Donegal which should help Tyrone.

JoG2

Quote from: The Bearded One on May 29, 2019, 02:08:11 PM
Fermanagh held this Donegal firepower to 15 points, 3 of which were in added time at the end of the game when Fermanagh were chasing scores.

Donegal have attacking threats, so do Tyrone. Donegal played 2 out and out defenders against Fermanagh, namely McMenamin and McGee, otherwise they had 4 attack minded 'defenders' in McLoone, McHugh, Gallagher and McGrath, knowing they didn't need to be overly defensive against Fermanagh. I predict their personnel will change next day out to leave more protection for Magee and McMenamin, otherwise Tyrone's running game will hurt them. Both keepers will have a big influence, Donegal didn't lose a kickout the last day out, Tyrone will exert more pressure on them hopefully.

Both teams will fancy their chances in this one, going with Tyrone by a small margin with the players coming in from bench making a difference on the day.

The same Fermanagh that held Monaghan to 10 points last year. The same Monaghan that put 19 odd scores on Tyrone in Rd 1.