Quote from: thewobbler on June 11, 2025, 11:11:05 AMQuote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2025, 10:48:27 AMYou condoning the extremists then?
Absolutely not.
But the reason for what you fellas describe as "far right" unrest in places like Ireland has got a lot more to do with the increasing presence of immigrants, and much less to do with influencers, than you'll ever be prepared to admit.
Human beings are tribal. We are instinctively a lot more accommodating when one of our own steps out of line, than we are when it's one of the "others". Which is why all across Ireland this weekend, at club GAA matches, you'll have people describing their team's psychotic behaviour as either "out of character" or "completely justified", whilst judging the opposing team's tackling / physical play as GBH, worthy of a prison sentence, pure thuggery.
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Ballyholland are playing Kilcoo on Friday evening. Imagine there was a social experiment that nobody in the crowd was permitted to speak at the match, but all they could do is comment on a social media thread where both sets of supporters contributed. Do you know what this would end up with? It would be vile, absolutely vile. And it wouldn't be because of Russians or bots.
Na. That's a load of enabling nonsense and exactly what the "influencers" online are looking to create.
They are using the immigration issue to widen the problem, so that it's not just an immigration issue, it's a skin colour problem. Perfect example is Ballymena, a working man and his family from Philippines had his car and house burned out cause the mob decided to cause his skin didn't fit in with theirs.
I know staff who work in the Lourdes Hospital in Drogheda who are all been abused on wards and on the streets, cause of their skin colour. Their kids in school are getting it too and them here years.
Immigration is the flame they using to ignite their own twisted hatred and bitterness towards others. I know some who have completely flipped and it's not about immigration, it's blaming others for their own sad existence and lack of drive and motivation to make anything of their lives. They've never left their own eircode bar a odd trip to Spain to take in the culture of Irish Bars in their Celtic and United/Liverpool/Arsenal tops to cheer on likes of Saka, Salah and Co which is terrible ironic as they'd not let them move in beside them.
It's dangerous, anonymous Facebook accounts posting rumour and scaring people, telling them they should be afraid, using the emotive threats to children and woman to cause tension and division. They failed at the local elections and this seemed to only drive them onto new extremes.
Is immigration perfect? No, not at all, but what's happening is beyond that and I struggle to see how people can't see it's been used way out of proportion.