America`s Gun Culture

Started by Wildweasel74, December 14, 2012, 06:00:57 PM

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You know what, I'd probably have more respect for people who said that guns and access to them were the problem but that they enjoyed guns and felt all these deaths were a price worth paying. At least they would be honest. Granted they're fucked up in head, but at least they would be honest.

J70

Quote from: Peter LaFleur on August 06, 2019, 01:02:49 PM
The Ohio shooter posted this strange video on youtube earlier this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUf3Km8LH7c

Jaysus lad ... give a NSFW warning at least!

Milltown Row2

Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2019, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: Peter LaFleur on August 06, 2019, 01:02:49 PM
The Ohio shooter posted this strange video on youtube earlier this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUf3Km8LH7c

Jaysus lad ... give a NSFW warning at least!

During lunch too  :-[
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

whitey

Quote from: screenexile on August 06, 2019, 12:27:55 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 06, 2019, 12:09:18 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 06, 2019, 10:32:26 AM
How many mass shootings are there in Ireland Whitey? American access to guns is the real problem.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/10/1/18000524/mass-shootings-rare

There has been a rash of heavily publicized mass shootings in recent years. But those incidents, while tragic, are a tiny sliver of America's gun homicide problem. Mayors Against Illegal Guns, analyzing FBI data, found that fewer than 1 percent of homicide victims in 2010 were killed in incidents where four or more people died.

Mass shootings are not rare anymore . . . there have been 248 of them this year (hardly rare) so far why are you using out dated info from 10 years ago??

Just because more people die from single gun related incidents than from a mass shooting doesn't make the gun problem any less. . . strange posting from you whitey you're usually better than that at least!!
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Is that article not from 2018?

While the mass shootings get all the press, most (95%+) gun deaths are not mass shootings and most gun deaths are carried out by people with revolvers not assault weapons. If you confiscated every assault weapon in the country it would have minimal to zero impact.

Trump is a clown and I hate him, but the Democrats trying to pin the blame on him directly for these shootings is pure nonsense. The Ohio shooter was an Elizabeth Warren/Antigua supporter. The guy who shot up the Republican Congressional baseball game was a Bernie supporter



Eamonnca1


sid waddell

White supremacism is a threat that is every bit as bad and worse as ISIS.

They use exactly the same tactics, they carry out exactly the same sort of terrorist atrocities.

Yet ISIS have never had mainstream politicians going to bat for them like white supremacists have Trump and the Republican party and assorted other demagogues and mainstream media throughout Europe and the world going to bat for them.

Until the right in general comes to terms with the fact that they inciting and encouraging terrorism, nothing will change.

That won't be any time soon, sadly.




whitey

Quote from: sid waddell on August 06, 2019, 06:54:48 PM
White supremacism is a threat that is every bit as bad and worse as ISIS.

They use exactly the same tactics, they carry out exactly the same sort of terrorist atrocities.

Yet ISIS have never had mainstream politicians going to bat for them like white supremacists have Trump and the Republican party and assorted other demagogues and mainstream media throughout Europe and the world going to bat for them.

Until the right in general comes to terms with the fact that they inciting and encouraging terrorism, nothing will change.

That won't be any time soon, sadly.

Time to stop watching CNN

J70

#1192
Mass shooters with leftist political agendas are rare. Most of those with political axes to grind are either Muslim or far right. Even taking the example of the guy who shot up the baseball game and almost killed Steve Scalise, was there any Dem politician out there encouraging violence against GOP politicians? Trump is building his re-election campaign on the "infestation" of the US with Hispanic invaders, drug dealers, murderers and rapists. He has championed policies which treat asylum seekers as subhuman. He has encouraged violence in his rallies. Two weeks ago he laughed at a Florida panhandle speech attendee who suggested shooting illegal border crossers. Did he mean that he wants people killed? Probably not. Did Ian Paisley deserve blame when loyalist paramilitaries acted out the worst interpretations of his rhetoric? Should politicians not be accountable for their rhetoric and the effect it can have on the public discourse and mood?

And getting back to the left/right divide, even if an equal or even larger share of politically motivated mass murders were leftist, it is still primarily liberal politicians who want to deal with the problem honestly and introduce proper curbs on ownership of what are ludicrous weapons for any non-professional soldier or security professional to own

Eamonnca1

Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2019, 10:05:33 PM
Mass shooters with leftist political agendas are rare. Most of those with political axes to grind are either Muslim or far right. Even taking the example of the guy who shot up the baseball game and almost killed Steve Scalise, was there any Dem politician out there encouraging violence against GOP politicians? Trump is building his re-election campaign on the "infestation" of the US with Hispanic invaders, drug dealers, murderers and rapists. He has championed policies which treat asylum seekers as subhuman. He has encouraged violence in his rallies. Two weeks ago he laughed at a Florida panhandle speech attendee who suggested shooting illegal border crossers. Did he mean that he wants people killed? Probably not. Did Ian Paisley deserve blame when loyalist paramilitaries acted out the worst interpretations of his rhetoric? Should politicians not be accountable for their rhetoric and the effect it can have on the public discourse and mood?

And getting back to the left/right divide, even if an equal or even larger share of politically motivated mass murders were leftist, it is still primarily liberal politicians who want to deal with the problem honestly and introduce proper curbs on ownership of what are ludicrous weapons for any non-professional soldier or security professional to own

Indeed. The GOP and their Fox News cheerleaders have openly embraced the right wing terrorist agenda and the Timothy McVeigh types. Democrats are openly opposed to violence or violent rhetoric, but if one left-leaning rando gives someone a dirty look then the right pounces on it as evidence that "both sides are equally as bad," which is utter horsesh1t.

sid waddell

Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2019, 10:05:33 PM
Mass shooters with leftist political agendas are rare. Most of those with political axes to grind are either Muslim or far right. Even taking the example of the guy who shot up the baseball game and almost killed Steve Scalise, was there any Dem politician out there encouraging violence against GOP politicians? Trump is building his re-election campaign on the "infestation" of the US with Hispanic invaders, drug dealers, murderers and rapists. He has championed policies which treat asylum seekers as subhuman. He has encouraged violence in his rallies. Two weeks ago he laughed at a Florida panhandle speech attendee who suggested shooting illegal border crossers. Did he mean that he wants people killed? Probably not. Did Ian Paisley deserve blame when loyalist paramilitaries acted out the worst interpretations of his rhetoric? Should politicians not be accountable for their rhetoric and the effect it can have on the public discourse and mood?

And getting back to the left/right divide, even if an equal or even larger share of politically motivated mass murders were leftist, it is still primarily liberal politicians who want to deal with the problem honestly and introduce proper curbs on ownership of what are ludicrous weapons for any non-professional soldier or security professional to own

In relation to the bolded bit, of course there wasn't. No Democratic politician remotely encourages violence, not least Bernie Sanders.

Of course that never stops Republicans from using Nazi-like propaganda to try and mendaciously tar their opponents with the very thing they themselves are squarely guilty of - inciting hatred and violence.

The entire Republican strategy is fascist propaganda techniques 101 - destroy the very concept of reality.

Their chief cheerleader here is a good example of this.

sid waddell

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 06, 2019, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2019, 10:05:33 PM
Mass shooters with leftist political agendas are rare. Most of those with political axes to grind are either Muslim or far right. Even taking the example of the guy who shot up the baseball game and almost killed Steve Scalise, was there any Dem politician out there encouraging violence against GOP politicians? Trump is building his re-election campaign on the "infestation" of the US with Hispanic invaders, drug dealers, murderers and rapists. He has championed policies which treat asylum seekers as subhuman. He has encouraged violence in his rallies. Two weeks ago he laughed at a Florida panhandle speech attendee who suggested shooting illegal border crossers. Did he mean that he wants people killed? Probably not. Did Ian Paisley deserve blame when loyalist paramilitaries acted out the worst interpretations of his rhetoric? Should politicians not be accountable for their rhetoric and the effect it can have on the public discourse and mood?

And getting back to the left/right divide, even if an equal or even larger share of politically motivated mass murders were leftist, it is still primarily liberal politicians who want to deal with the problem honestly and introduce proper curbs on ownership of what are ludicrous weapons for any non-professional soldier or security professional to own

Indeed. The GOP and their Fox News cheerleaders have openly embraced the right wing terrorist agenda and the Timothy McVeigh types. Democrats are openly opposed to violence or violent rhetoric, but if one left-leaning rando gives someone a dirty look then the right pounces on it as evidence that "both sides are equally as bad," which is utter horsesh1t.

Tucker Carlson, Hannity and Laura Ingraham are open white supremacists.

This is extremely long, but then again Tucker Carlson has been a white supremacist for a very long time.

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlsons-descent-white-supremacy-timeline

sid waddell

Here's white supremacist Tucker Carlson half an hour ago calling white supremacism "a hoax":

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1158896220309512192

The US is in full blown Goebbels territory and it is an existential threat to US democracy and the lives of minorities

It is tragic

It really can happen there, because it is happening

whitey

I don't know whether to laugh or to cry

People affiliated with the Clinton campaign PAID agitators to go in and disrupt Trump rally's and INTENTIONALLY PROVOKE people to react

Trumps rally in Chicago was actuallY SHUT DOWN by CPD given the level of violence perpetrated by Bernie's supporters outside

You ever see that video of the woman out in California being swarmed and assaulted by an aggressive mob?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uWIMt9JxugQ

And the attacks by Antifa are just too numerous to list-including a "philosophy professor" smashing seven people over the head with a bicycle lock


https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08/eric-clanton-takes-3-year-probation-deal-in-berkeley-rally-bike-lock-assault-case

But believe whatever you want....life will be easier for you that way

sid waddell

#1198
Go shit in a hat, Goebbels.

Quote from: whitey on August 07, 2019, 02:25:07 AM
I don't know whether to laugh or to cry


Probably laugh, I'd say. At the victims of white supremacist terrorism.

whitey

Quote from: sid waddell on August 07, 2019, 02:35:02 AM
Go shit in a hat, Goebbels.

Quote from: whitey on August 07, 2019, 02:25:07 AM
I don't know whether to laugh or to cry


Probably laugh, I'd say. At the victims of white supremacist terrorism.

I think I found you a home

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQ4vqCWYTw