The Fine Gael thread

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Another brainless left wing nut answer 

Oh i forgot they supported abortion so since you are one of these one issue voters you have to go elsewhere

Not at all a chara, and by the way they gave a free vote, unlike SF facists

Well that would make all parties Fascist then as thats not how it works. Maybe you are too thick to understand that. But well done on deflecting Leo's corruption onto SF, you are a class act and a true Irish man.

Emmm. It is how it worked. SF were the only large party to enforce the party whip on the Repeal vote  . Tá an fhírinne searbh

Because it was in their manifesto and is a core belief. FF and FG and watery pricks who stand for nothing and your budies are watery pricks that stand for only one thing, a thing they have no chance to turn back

Wrong again.
It wasn't in their manifesto. Have you actually got one answer correct yet?

[Angelo]

Ok guys.

It's clear what FBNS is doing here.

If ye want to take this conversation elsewhere then do so but this should be about Varadkar and his corrupt actions right now.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Ok guys.

It's clear what FBNS is doing here.

If ye want to take this conversation elsewhere then do so but this should be about Varadkar and his corrupt actions right now.

I think you will find I didn't bring SF into it.

[Angelo]

Ok guys.

It's clear what FBNS is doing here.

If ye want to take this conversation elsewhere then do so but this should be about Varadkar and his corrupt actions right now.

I think you will find I didn't bring SF into it.

You haven't talked about FG at all which bigs the question why you are here.

Have you anything to say on Varadkar getting caught bang to right in leaking confidential documents to his pal or are you merely just here to deflect?

[trueblue1234]

Ok guys.

It's clear what FBNS is doing here.

If ye want to take this conversation elsewhere then do so but this should be about Varadkar and his corrupt actions right now.

I think you will find I didn't bring SF into it.

Completely disingenuous. Someone posted a light hearted post about someone bringing the Shinners into it and you jumped in with this post.

Martin would give his left ball to stay as Taoiseach, the man has no position, no principals and us by far the worst leader the country has ever had. Hes only concerned with him having a legacy of being Taoiseach,  the people, right vrs wrong or justice are of no concern to him.

Have it in a nutshell Itchy. I haven't been keeping as close an eye as I should be on this with the American election, but have they managed to blame the shinners yet?

In a statement this evening (29th October), Elisha McCallion said she showed "poor judgment" over her participation which seen £30,000 wrongly obtained by Sinn Fein linked accounts.

One account Elisha admits, is a joint account belonging to her and her husband Declan McCallion. Declan is a well known drug abuser who in recent years, admitted his role in attacking an elderly couple whilst under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

Why did a known criminal have access to this money designed to help those suffering the hardship of Covid-19?

Had it not surfaced that Elisha and her colleagues had wrongly obtained this money, the people of Derry and the people she claims to represent, would not have been insulted with her excuse of yet another apology.

In the midst of a economically crippling global pandemic that has seen the working class face an increasingly aggressive environment that threatens their very livelihoods and mental health, ten of thousands of pounds are mysteriously appearing in the bank accounts of criminal, conniving, careerist politicians such as imperialist apologist and mouthpiece Elisha McCallion.

The good people of this country and within our communities are more than aware that Sinn Fein, the once proud revolutionary party, are not shy when it comes to lining their own pockets. In fact, they have become an outfit of deceit and selfishness. Over the past two decades they have been involved in backhand financial deals with the occupation resulting in direct funding from the occupation and those who seek to normalise imperialism in Ireland.

Famously, they have manipulated on a massive scale various positions and jobs within working class communities, keeping their party and family members in work while others - who are far more qualified - are kicked to the kerb simply because they don't tow the Sinn Fein line.

Sinn Fein members have a track record of embezzling money that was destined for better causes in Derry, this is reflected by the many ex-Republicans who now own houses, bars, nightclubs, security firms, holiday homes and taxi ranks. These people live in luxury while their former comrades, some of whom who still ride the 'Sinn Fein train' live in social housing with money problems and addiction.

The people of this city have for too long been at the mercy of capitalism, partition,  imperialism and the social-economic devastation it brings. Year In year out the electorate and the working class are promised better housing, more employment and opportunities, mental health facilities and funding, youth initiatives and youth development schemes. All promised by those who solidify the very structures that imposes these conditions on the working class.

Elisha McCallion has for too long insulted the people of Derry. She has made jokes at the fact that working class people find themselves in debt which can wreak devastation on those unfortunate enough to find themselves in that position. She insulted those campaigning for better mental health facilities in the city and for years she has made a career for herself claiming to struggle for what brave men and women fought and died for.

Elisha McCallion should hang her head in shame. Although she is in the spotlight today, she represents what Sinn Fein as a party have become.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Ok guys.

It's clear what FBNS is doing here.

If ye want to take this conversation elsewhere then do so but this should be about Varadkar and his corrupt actions right now.

I think you will find I didn't bring SF into it.

Completely disingenuous. Someone posted a light hearted post about someone bringing the Shinners into it and you jumped in with this post.

Martin would give his left ball to stay as Taoiseach, the man has no position, no principals and us by far the worst leader the country has ever had. Hes only concerned with him having a legacy of being Taoiseach,  the people, right vrs wrong or justice are of no concern to him.

Have it in a nutshell Itchy. I haven't been keeping as close an eye as I should be on this with the American election, but have they managed to blame the shinners yet?

In a statement this evening (29th October), Elisha McCallion said she showed "poor judgment" over her participation which seen £30,000 wrongly obtained by Sinn Fein linked accounts.

One account Elisha admits, is a joint account belonging to her and her husband Declan McCallion. Declan is a well known drug abuser who in recent years, admitted his role in attacking an elderly couple whilst under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

Why did a known criminal have access to this money designed to help those suffering the hardship of Covid-19?

Had it not surfaced that Elisha and her colleagues had wrongly obtained this money, the people of Derry and the people she claims to represent, would not have been insulted with her excuse of yet another apology.

In the midst of a economically crippling global pandemic that has seen the working class face an increasingly aggressive environment that threatens their very livelihoods and mental health, ten of thousands of pounds are mysteriously appearing in the bank accounts of criminal, conniving, careerist politicians such as imperialist apologist and mouthpiece Elisha McCallion.

The good people of this country and within our communities are more than aware that Sinn Fein, the once proud revolutionary party, are not shy when it comes to lining their own pockets. In fact, they have become an outfit of deceit and selfishness. Over the past two decades they have been involved in backhand financial deals with the occupation resulting in direct funding from the occupation and those who seek to normalise imperialism in Ireland.

Famously, they have manipulated on a massive scale various positions and jobs within working class communities, keeping their party and family members in work while others - who are far more qualified - are kicked to the kerb simply because they don't tow the Sinn Fein line.

Sinn Fein members have a track record of embezzling money that was destined for better causes in Derry, this is reflected by the many ex-Republicans who now own houses, bars, nightclubs, security firms, holiday homes and taxi ranks. These people live in luxury while their former comrades, some of whom who still ride the 'Sinn Fein train' live in social housing with money problems and addiction.

The people of this city have for too long been at the mercy of capitalism, partition,  imperialism and the social-economic devastation it brings. Year In year out the electorate and the working class are promised better housing, more employment and opportunities, mental health facilities and funding, youth initiatives and youth development schemes. All promised by those who solidify the very structures that imposes these conditions on the working class.

Elisha McCallion has for too long insulted the people of Derry. She has made jokes at the fact that working class people find themselves in debt which can wreak devastation on those unfortunate enough to find themselves in that position. She insulted those campaigning for better mental health facilities in the city and for years she has made a career for herself claiming to struggle for what brave men and women fought and died for.

Elisha McCallion should hang her head in shame. Although she is in the spotlight today, she represents what Sinn Fein as a party have become.

Take yer oil

[trueblue1234]

Or how about you stop polluting thread for your own political bias. Knock yourself out with the shinner bashing, but keep it to a relevant thread.

[Franko]

So Varadkar dodges the bullet (as if it was ever going to be different).

What was left of the FG mask has slipped badly with this one and the Greens are just an absolute joke.  They'll be wiped out next time round.

Micheal Martin, desperate to cling to power, won't lay a glove on the leader of his traditional enemy.

The sheep in the Dail have dug out their notebooks and are talking about Columba McVeigh.  Heather Humphreys doesn't give a fcuk about Columba McVeigh, or his family, or Breege Quinn, or Tom Oliver, or Austin Stack.  Just names to throw out when backed into a corner.

It really is no better than the cute hoors in the Galway Tent.

And the best part of it all, they think they are being 'progressive'.

[general_lee]

Or how about you stop polluting thread for your own political bias. Knock yourself out with the shinner bashing, but keep it to a relevant thread.

He must be a saoradh man

So Varadkar dodges the bullet (as if it was ever going to be different).

What was left of the FG mask has slipped badly with this one and the Greens are just an absolute joke.  They'll be wiped out next time round.

Micheal Martin, desperate to cling to power, won't lay a glove on the leader of his traditional enemy.

The sheep in the Dail have dug out their notebooks and are talking about Columba McVeigh.  Heather Humphreys doesn't give a fcuk about Columba McVeigh, or his family, or Breege Quinn, or Tom Oliver, or Austin Stack.  Just names to throw out when backed into a corner.

It really is no better than the cute hoors in the Galway Tent.

And the best part of it all, they think they are being 'progressive'.

What else would you expect? They are absolutely pathetic. The precarious nature of this government, their lust for power and complete fear of SF means there is no low they won't stoop to.

[Rossfan]

Did ye Shinners really think that the Government TDs and others would support this motion and bring down the Government?
92 -65 was the vote.
Heather Humphreys or the other 91 may be pathetic but they never abducted a young lad who wouldn't lick some warlord's boots, never took him off to some secret location, never put a bullet in his head, never buried him in unconsecrated ground without access to priest, never left his family for 45 years not finding their loved ones remains.
They never murdered Messrs Oliver, Stack or Quinn.

[Farrandeelin]

Did ye Shinners really think that the Government TDs and others would support this motion and bring down the Government?
92 -65 was the vote.
Heather Humphreys or the other 91 may be pathetic but they never abducted a young lad who wouldn't lick some warlord's boots, never took him off to some secret location, never put a bullet in his head, never buried him in unconsecrated ground without access to priest, never left his family for 45 years not finding their loved ones remains.
They never murdered Messrs Oliver, Stack or Quinn.

This wasn't about the crimes of the IRA. This was about the leaking of a confidential document by the FG leader when he was Taoiseach.

I understand that leaking of confidential documents is now FG policy seeing as they are all ok with it, and FF and the Greens too by extension.

[tiempo]

Did ye Shinners really think that the Government TDs and others would support this motion and bring down the Government?
92 -65 was the vote.
Heather Humphreys or the other 91 may be pathetic but they never abducted a young lad who wouldn't lick some warlord's boots, never took him off to some secret location, never put a bullet in his head, never buried him in unconsecrated ground without access to priest, never left his family for 45 years not finding their loved ones remains.
They never murdered Messrs Oliver, Stack or Quinn.

Which one/few of the 65 was it?

[general_lee]

Rossfan is a case in point!

[Franko]

Did ye Shinners really think that the Government TDs and others would support this motion and bring down the Government?
92 -65 was the vote.
Heather Humphreys or the other 91 may be pathetic but they never abducted a young lad who wouldn't lick some warlord's boots, never took him off to some secret location, never put a bullet in his head, never buried him in unconsecrated ground without access to priest, never left his family for 45 years not finding their loved ones remains.
They never murdered Messrs Oliver, Stack or Quinn.

I can assure you, I'm no shinner.  And no, I didn't think it was ever going to be any different, which is why I wrote "as if it was ever going to be different"

No comment on Varadkar whatsoever then?  Another Heather Humphreys style rant just?

Defend and deflect at all costs for the good of the party.  And these are the folk who would like to call others 'bots'.

[Rossfan]

I, like I suspect half of FG and all of FF was delighted to see smartarse Varadkar squirming and apologising and taken down a peg ir 2.
Showing 1 crowd of doctors a deal that had been reached with another crowd of doctors didn't exactly bother the General public who live outside the political bubble.
Apart from Farradeelin and 6 Co folk there were no comments here.