Man Utd Thread:

[trailer]

Wouldn't touch those two with a barge pole. Sell Pogba. Ring up Karen Brady and pay whatever it takes to get Declan Rice. Hit the reset button and build a team around him.

[Milltown Row2]

It's like the Big Ron style Utd now!

[Look-Up!]

It would be like signing Sanchez,  another player on big wages who lost his motivation.

United should be going for young players, with something to prove.

I think Bale could be a great signing but only if the wages were right. So I'd have to agree with you. Utd need to get rid of Sanchez, get the wage ceiling down and get in some young players that will raise the wage ceiling in the coming years by earning it.
Any lad coming in from RM on superstar wages will be looking at Sanchez's contract and that will be the negotiating point.
If Bale was willing to accept 140K per week on a medium term deal I think it would be a good bit of business for them both. But there isn't a hope in hell of a deal like that materializing so they should stay clear.
But the way Utd are doing their business ATM it wouldn't surprise me if they go and stupidly spunk a whole pile of cash at another big name. I can see next season being as dramatic than this one and doubt the new man will last very long. They need centre halves and to sort out the goal keeping situation. De Gea was carrying them for a few years. Last 10 games of the season where he really lost it is a good barometer of where they've been at for a long time.

[magpie seanie]

It's like the Big Ron style Utd now!

Totally wrong. Ron's teams were full of leaders and men (Robson, Moran, McGrath, Hughes and many, many more)....perhaps a little unfortunate to not win more with them than the 2 FA Cups.

[brokencrossbar1]

It's like the Big Ron style Utd now!

Totally wrong. Ron's teams were full of leaders and men (Robson, Moran, McGrath, Hughes and many, many more)....perhaps a little unfortunate to not win more with them than the 2 FA Cups.

Talent was never the problem....party life-style was and also the Liverpool and Everton teams of that era were much better.

[Milltown Row2]

It's like the Big Ron style Utd now!

Totally wrong. Ron's teams were full of leaders and men (Robson, Moran, McGrath, Hughes and many, many more)....perhaps a little unfortunate to not win more with them than the 2 FA Cups.

Talent was never the problem....party life-style was and also the Liverpool and Everton teams of that era were much better.

Leaders alright, but loved a pint too, they were miles behind Liverpool and I was at those games during Ron's time. Ron loved a big signing but no end product

[Geoff Tipps]

It's like the Big Ron style Utd now!

Totally wrong. Ron's teams were full of leaders and men (Robson, Moran, McGrath, Hughes and many, many more)....perhaps a little unfortunate to not win more with them than the 2 FA Cups.

Talent was never the problem....party life-style was and also the Liverpool and Everton teams of that era were much better.

Leaders alright, but loved a pint too, they were miles behind Liverpool and I was at those games during Ron's time. Ron loved a big signing but no end product

As did the Liverpool team of the 80's!

[magpie seanie]

It's like the Big Ron style Utd now!

Totally wrong. Ron's teams were full of leaders and men (Robson, Moran, McGrath, Hughes and many, many more)....perhaps a little unfortunate to not win more with them than the 2 FA Cups.

Talent was never the problem....party life-style was and also the Liverpool and Everton teams of that era were much better.

Leaders alright, but loved a pint too, they were miles behind Liverpool and I was at those games during Ron's time. Ron loved a big signing but no end product

Go on so, give us examples of this when he was at United? He made mostly brilliant signings during that time. Peter Davenport probably the only one that cost a significant fee that didn't work out. The FA Cup's in 1983 and 1985 weren't "no end product"....if Robson could have stayed fit and Edwards didn't sell Hughes at Christmas he would have won the league in 85/86 too.

[magpie seanie]

It's like the Big Ron style Utd now!

Totally wrong. Ron's teams were full of leaders and men (Robson, Moran, McGrath, Hughes and many, many more)....perhaps a little unfortunate to not win more with them than the 2 FA Cups.

Talent was never the problem....party life-style was and also the Liverpool and Everton teams of that era were much better.

They all drank like fish in those days. Liverpool and Everton were excellent sides back then and certainly more consistent but United beat them both regularly and in big games too.

[brokencrossbar1]

It's like the Big Ron style Utd now!

Totally wrong. Ron's teams were full of leaders and men (Robson, Moran, McGrath, Hughes and many, many more)....perhaps a little unfortunate to not win more with them than the 2 FA Cups.

Talent was never the problem....party life-style was and also the Liverpool and Everton teams of that era were much better.

They all drank like fish in those days. Liverpool and Everton were excellent sides back then and certainly more consistent but United beat them both regularly and in big games too.

Yes,  all teams did drink but I think it is well known that the likes of Whiteside, Robson, McGrath et al were heavy, heavy boozers and when Fergie came in it was a mission of his to break that culture.  United were always a good side but they lacked the consistency to stay at the top.

[Maroon Manc]

Robbo was a very heavy drinker and more often than not the instigator of it too. , just very lucky that it never affected him on the pitch like the others. He's lauded so much by reds of a certain as Captain Marvel, he might have been a brilliant captain on the pitch but far from it off it. On the pitch Robbo was one of the best United ever had.

[Armamike]

Robbo was a very heavy drinker and more often than not the instigator of it too. , just very lucky that it never affected him on the pitch like the others. He's lauded so much by reds of a certain as Captain Marvel, he might have been a brilliant captain on the pitch but far from it off it. On the pitch Robbo was one of the best United ever had.

Would his drinking have been a factor in him picking up so many injuries?

[BennyCake]

Fergie got rid of McGrath and Whiteside due to the drinking, but not Robson.

McGrath proved him wrong though, going on to play fantastic stuff for the guts of a decade afterwards. Even with the dodgy knees.

[Armamike]

It's like the Big Ron style Utd now!

Totally wrong. Ron's teams were full of leaders and men (Robson, Moran, McGrath, Hughes and many, many more)....perhaps a little unfortunate to not win more with them than the 2 FA Cups.

Talent was never the problem....party life-style was and also the Liverpool and Everton teams of that era were much better.

Leaders alright, but loved a pint too, they were miles behind Liverpool and I was at those games during Ron's time. Ron loved a big signing but no end product

Go on so, give us examples of this when he was at United? He made mostly brilliant signings during that time. Peter Davenport probably the only one that cost a significant fee that didn't work out. The FA Cup's in 1983 and 1985 weren't "no end product"....if Robson could have stayed fit and Edwards didn't sell Hughes at Christmas he would have won the league in 85/86 too.

I remember Man U winning something like their first 10 games that season, and thinking it was looking ominous! 

[bigarsedkeeper]

Fergie got rid of McGrath and Whiteside due to the drinking, but not Robson.

McGrath proved him wrong though, going on to play fantastic stuff for the guts of a decade afterwards. Even with the dodgy knees.

Fergie was told that McGrath was on the verge of forced retirement when he took over but won league player of the year the following year. Reading McGraths book Graham Taylor saved his career, gave us the Italia 90 McGrath. His career dipped after that because Taylor took the England job. We only remember the good points at the world cups etc. Fantastic footballer, cleaning out Baggio in USA 94 is highlight for me, one of the best players Ireland have produced.