The League is done and dusted, Division 1 status secured for 2017 and the last3 games have shown up our frailties.
Time to turn eyes on the real World but first we have to do our Community Service to the semi official twilight GAA world of NY plus the free holiday for the Connacht blazers.
First about 10 days rest for those who soldiered right through the NFL and a load of training for those who missed a lot of it.
Then get this nonsense game out of the way and avoid injury.
9th different venue for Roscommon this year...
Kiltoom
Killarney
Cork
Longford
Letterkenny
Roscommon
Carrick-On-Shannon
Croke Park
Gaelic Park
Why isn't Micheal lundy in the new York squad to face the rossies?
How many blazers travelling?
This fixture should be rotated among the 32 counties.
NY should be graded Junior and play the GB Champions in a Quarter Final.
Won't happen while the Connacht Council exists though.
Can the bus float on water to bring the team across?
The Hurley chaps will be using it for the Ring Cup.
Of course it can float and fly too.
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Why isn't Micheal lundy in the new York squad to face the rossies?
Found out he missed the transfer deadline.
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Why isn't Micheal lundy in the new York squad to face the rossies?
Found out he missed the transfer deadline.
However they managed that. It was common knowledge he was heading to New York well before last Christmas.
Maybe he just wants to get away from football altogether.
Our lads flying out Thursday and back on Tuesday.
Would love to think it's the last time we have to undergo this punishment but I suppose that's a vain hope.
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Why isn't Micheal lundy in the new York squad to face the rossies?
Because playing for New York if you are an intercounty player is seen as a step down!
You hit the nail on the head there bunker, that and a Galway man never likes to get stuft by the Rossies.
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Why isn't Micheal lundy in the new York squad to face the rossies?
Because playing for New York if you are an intercounty player is seen as a step down!
Didn't stop Duane or Glynn.
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Why isn't Micheal lundy in the new York squad to face the rossies?
Found out he missed the transfer deadline.
However they managed that. It was common knowledge he was heading to New York well before last Christmas.
It was common knowledge he was going alright but he was playing for Corofin up to the end of October, would that have delayed things transfer wise? He's playing club football out there though, would he not have needed a transfer for that? No idea how these things work!
New York manager confident of causing upset on Sunday.
http://www.gaa.ie/football/news/new-york-manager-justin-halloran-confident-they-can-scalp-the-rossies/
Didn't New York Leitrim go to extra time in 2003?
These lads don't be long turning into Yanks :o blowing bullshit.
Is this match available to watch anywhere?
Good luck to my clubmate Vinny Cadden today. if right was right he'd be back here preparing to keep goal for Sligo but I'm sure he's having a better time where he is at least!
Was the NY team named?
Just hearing the game has been switched to Yankee Stadium.
Up New York!
New York:
1) Vinny Cadden
2) Ronan McGinley
3) Ger McCartan
4) Killian Moynagh
5) Keith Scally
6) Johnny Duane
7) Keith Quinn
8) Johnny Glynn
9) Brian Gallagher
10) Luke Loughlin
11) Brian Connor
12) Paddy McNiece
13) Paddy Boyle
14) Kevin Connolly
15) Darren Freeman
16) Brian Cullinane
17) Paul Lamb
18) Eoin McPhillips
19) Shane Hogan
20) Johnny Power
21) David Freeman
22) Anthony Brady
23) Barry O' Mahony
24) Niall Egan
25) Peadar Eanna Seoighe
26) John Comerford
Wreck them.
Rainy and dreary day here in the big apple which should suit the Rossies
Didn't realise Barry O'Mahony was in the panel. That's two Coolera/Strandhill men in the panel with Vinny starting in goals. Vinny's cousin Gary went over too but must be injured because he'd be good enough to make the panel too. As you can imagine the club team is struggling!
First Championship starts for Sean Mullooly, Niall McInerney, John McManus, Cathal Compton. Cian Connolly possibly also as I don't recall him last year.
Devaney, Claffey and Fintan Cregg back in Championship action after Sabbaticals in the Evans era.
Best of luck lads, get this farce out of the way and enjoy the after match.
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First Championship starts for Sean Mullooly, Niall McInerney, John McManus, Cathal Compton. Cian Connolly possibly also as I don't recall him last year.
Devaney, Claffey and Fintan Cregg back in Championship action after Sabbaticals in the Evans era.
Best of luck lads, get this farce out of the way and enjoy the after match.
8 changes a big turn over from your last championship game however that game was a defeat to Fermanagh where many changes probably needed to be made.
AstroTurf should be a fast paced game. Hard to look past Rossies by at least 12 points
Is local radio covering the match? Live commentary I mean.
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Is local radio covering the match? Live commentary I mean.
Would imagine so
Lashing rain all day in NY, possibly will have a big impact on crowd.
Shannonside doing it.
Willie will be talking and blatherin anyway.
He might occasionally mention some of the happenings in Gaelic Park. ::)
New York 0.01 Ros 0.00
NY 0.02 Ros 0.02. Keith Quinn with first black card of the championship 13 min gone
NY 0.04 Ros 0.02
Marty Duffy manages to rob us of points even in the States. Umpire signals a point but eagle eyes linesman Marty thought better.
Penalty for us. Time to wake up.
It's close right now but I am going 4 Roscommon to win.
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Penalty for us. Time to wake up.
Us? You do know it's not Mayo that are playing?
NY 0.06 Roscommon 1.07. HT
Woeful half. Bit too much like London last year for comfort. Need to make the gap show in the second half and put a positive spin on the performance.
Not many following this game on the thread, 2 Mayo men supplying the updates, where are the Rossies?
Our heads are done in listening to that effin eejit WH.
He must have sent greetings to the entire population of roscommon at this stage and occasionally mentions some of the events at Gaelic Park.
Seems like an embarrassing performance by us so far although Cadden has made a few good saves.
One or two players haven't had their names mentioned yet but with the standard of commentary that can't be taken as a guide to lads hiding or minding themselves or not being at the races
Cadden having a stormer of a first half Seanie- 3 great saves. Game is been shown live on periscope.
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Not many following this game on the thread, 2 Mayo men supplying the updates, where are the Rossies?
Probably in Castlebar celebrating Mayos u 21 win
NY not going away.
For any still interested NY 0.10 Ros 1.12
I apologise for any complaint I've ever made about MWR commentary. This stuff on Shannonside beggars belief.
1-14 to 0-12 and NY miss a goal chance. Roscommon will be glad to get this done....if they do get it done!!
Its a fairly wet day over here, although one would expect that to affect NY more than the Rossies. Rain's stopped though.
Sounds like Vinnie Cadden will be the M.O.M. Hope the Rossies had an extremely hard training session yesterday.1.14 to 0.13
5 to go .1.14 to 0.14 and Ny kick a wide
1.14 to 0.15 2 min to go. 4 min of injury time
Murtagh misses an easy free.Still 2 in it
! point in it
Kilbride puts Ros 2 ahead.1 min to go
FT Ny 0.17 Ros 1.15 Phew
Ros win it by a point 1-15 to 0-17
Well done Roscommon, great victory.
O Donnell fairly good with the excuses
;D
Reality check for the deluded ones.
Great display by the Big Apple. Super display by Mayoman Brian Gallagher. McStay will have it easy talking to his lads in lead up to the championship which will be fine by him.
The only good thing about that was the Periscope coverage.
Worse than Sligo or Fermanagh last year. Mentally we looked totally shagged. After last year's slip-ups this sort of stuff is unforgivable.
Leitrim are going to be very confident now and are going to throw the kitchen sink at us. They will beat us unless we show something we haven't in the championship in a good few years.
Sheeessh!
Shades of James Horan's first championsip game in charge?
There are many ways to look at a result like this! It can bring confidence down. Or you can go into your next game with a realist view and take noting for granted! It can take expectation of the team and fans and give the players more freedom! They got a fright, but they did not lose!
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Shades of James Horan's first championsip game in charge?
The wildly optimistic take.
Fourth brutal championship performance by us in 12 months. No other county in D1 or D2 can compete with that sort of consistency.
I remember Liam saying to me that training Clare was like preparing turkeys for Christmas! I wonder what he's thinking now in the land of the sheepstealers? preparing lambs for the slaughter perhaps.
Seriously though this won t matter a damn in a couple of months time. At least they didn t have to go to extra time like Mayo in London in 2011 - and that didn t do us much harm.
Maybe but London have 7 League games behind them. NY is basically a scratch team playing their first game together.
Hard to see anything but another sh1te Championship coming up.
Just an embarrassment and management need to look at themselves.
It might have only been NY but you have to put them away early and to do so needs players minds to be right.
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Maybe but London have 7 League games behind them. NY is basically a scratch team playing their first game together.
Hard to see anything but another sh1te Championship coming up.
Just an embarrassment and management need to look at themselves.
It might have only been NY but you have to put them away early and to do so needs players minds to be right.
Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
I'm surprised New York didn't win this. I mean, there's a big population difference between the two.
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Maybe but London have 7 League games behind them. NY is basically a scratch team playing their first game together.
Hard to see anything but another sh1te Championship coming up.
Just an embarrassment and management need to look at themselves.
It might have only been NY but you have to put them away early and to do so needs players minds to be right.
Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
We've been training since November and we just beat a challenge team that got together a few weeks ago by a point. It's hard to see any positives from that. It will also have flooded Leitrim with confidence and will make them all the harder to beat in three weeks.
I know they won but that must be up there with one of Roscommons worst ever championship results? Like I mean how is it possible for a division one team to concede 0-17 to New York and then hang on by the skin of their teeth. No doubt about it now Leitrim or Sligo have excellent chance of reaching this years Connacht final.
The Laythrum hoors will be frothing out of their mouths by the time we meet them.
Have some of our lads the stomach for a bunch of hairy savages tearing into them.
Not our finest hour tonight.
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Maybe but London have 7 League games behind them. NY is basically a scratch team playing their first game together.
Hard to see anything but another sh1te Championship coming up.
Just an embarrassment and management need to look at themselves.
It might have only been NY but you have to put them away early and to do so needs players minds to be right.
Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
We've been training since November and we just beat a challenge team that got together a few weeks ago by a point. It's hard to see any positives from that. It will also have flooded Leitrim with confidence and will make them all the harder to beat in three weeks.
Good job you don't have to worry about it and can head to London and enjoy your yourself with the rest of club51 members
When you get into trouble in NY or Ruislip, things seem to get a bit surreal and I don't think players really believe they're in the situation they're in.
That's why you have to kill the game early. It might have no bearing on Ros for rest of champ, but it's hard to see positives either
Just in from game. New York had an incredible chance to score a goal with last kick of game. It was blasted well over the bar. Final whistle went from the kick out.
Body language of the Rossies would have to be a concern, bar three or four they were very very poor.
Duane one of New York' better players went off injured with at least twenty mins to go.
Roscommon do not have a midfield, Donie Shine came on as a sub, looked lost bar one good catch and shot, expected more from him.while in the grand scheme of things it may not mean a whole lot, but I would not be a confident rossie given that newyork is a team thrown together with no meaningful games played. New York goalie was excellent as was Connor from Offaly and loughlin from Westmeath
Roscommon will get over Leitrim but Sligo will be very confident now.
I know what happened, they couldn't bring the bloody bus! It was like playing blind folded such was the sadness of knowing that big beauty wasn't in the car park waiting. She'll be revving up for Leitrim so fear not, Rossies for Sam.
Roscommon so confident of beating New York they started with only 14 men!
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 01, 2016, 11:02:19 PM
Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
Connacht Championship has to be the most competitive now. Our lower division teams can beat newly promoted division 1 teams and our makey-uppy teams can get to within a point of a team that should have beaten the Dubs.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 01, 2016, 11:02:19 PM
Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
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Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
Nothing to do with how we finished the league. Won the D2 title with a good performance against Down last year but turned up in London totally palatic a few weeks later. All about championship form.
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Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
I wouldn t mind that tonight. And Roscommon had a good league all told.
If the Roscommon players are as good as we are told they are then they have nothing to worry about. Good players don t become poor players overnight. These trips thar lear can be tricky.
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Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
Nothing to do with how we finished the league. Won the D2 title with a good performance against Down last year but turned up in London totally palatic a few weeks later. All about championship form.
Relax Sy. This evening wasn't Championship. Really it wasn't. If Ros reach CF they will be in rude good form and expecting to beat whoever they face.
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Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
Nothing to do with how we finished the league. Won the D2 title with a good performance against Down last year but turned up in London totally palatic a few weeks later. All about championship form.
Relax Sy. This evening wasn't Championship. Really it wasn't. If Ros reach CF they will be in rude good form and expecting to beat whoever they face.
If. Leitrim would have hammered us today.
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Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
Nothing to do with how we finished the league. Won the D2 title with a good performance against Down last year but turned up in London totally palatic a few weeks later. All about championship form.
Relax Sy. This evening wasn't Championship. Really it wasn't. If Ros reach CF they will be in rude good form and expecting to beat whoever they face.
If. Leitrim would have hammered us today.
Leitrim were not playing in NY this evening. Maybe just as well for them.
Why the angst Sy? Thought things were in place? The management most Mayo people wanted, Roscommon have. You wouldn t swap your players for ours - especially the forwards. Vot ist los?
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Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
Nothing to do with how we finished the league. Won the D2 title with a good performance against Down last year but turned up in London totally palatic a few weeks later. All about championship form.
Relax Sy. This evening wasn't Championship. Really it wasn't. If Ros reach CF they will be in rude good form and expecting to beat whoever they face.
If. Leitrim would have hammered us today.
Leitrim were not playing in NY this evening. Maybe just as well for them.
Why the angst Sy? Thought things were in place? The management most Mayo people wanted, Roscommon have. You wouldn t swap your players for ours - especially the forwards. Vot ist los?
Our U21 team would have hammered New York this evening.
Mayo are likely going no where is their own management reshuffle but we're the most erratic county in Ireland at this stage. Seemingly has very little to do with who's managing us.
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Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
Nothing to do with how we finished the league. Won the D2 title with a good performance against Down last year but turned up in London totally palatic a few weeks later. All about championship form.
Relax Sy. This evening wasn't Championship. Really it wasn't. If Ros reach CF they will be in rude good form and expecting to beat whoever they face.
If. Leitrim would have hammered us today.
Leitrim were not playing in NY this evening. Maybe just as well for them.
Why the angst Sy? Thought things were in place? The management most Mayo people wanted, Roscommon have. You wouldn t swap your players for ours - especially the forwards. Vot ist los?
Our U21 team would have hammered New York this evening.
Mayo are likely going no where is their own management reshuffle but we're the most erratic county in Ireland at this stage. Seemingly has very little to do with who's managing us.
This doesn't make sense!! But it does tie in with your remark about getting more senior players from this years U21 than Mayo will. Still does not make sense though? You've got your Shines, Devanneys, Harneys, and Kilbrides and Murtaghs etc.
Mayo will be grand. The 'reshuffle' was necessary and last years arrangement should not have happened. Overall our league was positive as was Roscommon's.
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Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
Nothing to do with how we finished the league. Won the D2 title with a good performance against Down last year but turned up in London totally palatic a few weeks later. All about championship form.
Relax Sy. This evening wasn't Championship. Really it wasn't. If Ros reach CF they will be in rude good form and expecting to beat whoever they face.
If. Leitrim would have hammered us today.
Leitrim were not playing in NY this evening. Maybe just as well for them.
Why the angst Sy? Thought things were in place? The management most Mayo people wanted, Roscommon have. You wouldn t swap your players for ours - especially the forwards. Vot ist los?
Our U21 team would have hammered New York this evening.
Mayo are likely going no where is their own management reshuffle but we're the most erratic county in Ireland at this stage. Seemingly has very little to do with who's managing us.
This doesn't make sense!! But it does tie in with your remark about getting more senior players from this years U21 than Mayo will. Still does not make sense though? You've got your Shines, Devanneys, Harneys, and Kilbrides and Murtaghs etc.
Mayo will be grand. The 'reshuffle' was necessary and last years arrangement should not have happened. Overall our league was positive as was Roscommon's.
This year's management have shown absolutely nothing to suggest a change of management was anything more than foolhardy arrogance by the players.
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Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
Nothing to do with how we finished the league. Won the D2 title with a good performance against Down last year but turned up in London totally palatic a few weeks later. All about championship form.
Relax Sy. This evening wasn't Championship. Really it wasn't. If Ros reach CF they will be in rude good form and expecting to beat whoever they face.
If. Leitrim would have hammered us today.
Leitrim were not playing in NY this evening. Maybe just as well for them.
Why the angst Sy? Thought things were in place? The management most Mayo people wanted, Roscommon have. You wouldn t swap your players for ours - especially the forwards. Vot ist los?
Our U21 team would have hammered New York this evening.
Mayo are likely going no where is their own management reshuffle but we're the most erratic county in Ireland at this stage. Seemingly has very little to do with who's managing us.
This doesn't make sense!! But it does tie in with your remark about getting more senior players from this years U21 than Mayo will. Still does not make sense though? You've got your Shines, Devanneys, Harneys, and Kilbrides and Murtaghs etc.
Mayo will be grand. The 'reshuffle' was necessary and last years arrangement should not have happened. Overall our league was positive as was Roscommon's.
This year's management have shown absolutely nothing to suggest a change of management was anything more than foolhardy arrogance by the players.
Sigh! The next few months will reveal a lot. I'm happier going into this championship than I was last year anyway.
This year's management have shown absolutely nothing to suggest a change of management was anything more than foolhardy arrogance by the players.
[/quote]We will forgive you for that idiotic statement seeing the nights thats in it.I think part of Roscommons problem is they start there championship training in November in order for them to stay in Division 1 of the league and when the championship does comes around they have no extra gears.Mayo done the same with JOM and thankfully when Horan came in he changed all that.I know Ros want to be in Div. 1 but maybe they have got there too fast and are putting to much effort into the league
Quote from: maigheo on May 02, 2016, 01:44:22 AM
We will forgive you for that idiotic statement seeing the nights thats in it.I think part of Roscommons problem is they start there championship training in November in order for them to stay in Division 1 of the league and when the championship does comes around they have no extra gears.Mayo done the same with JOM and thankfully when Horan came in he changed all that.I know Ros want to be in Div. 1 but maybe they have got there too fast and are putting to much effort into the league
Silliest thing I've heard tonight is trying to link training with barely beating a team that apparently had a single 'competitive' match in the build-up to this game. We've had bad leagues and good leagues and produced performances of this level in recent years, there is feck all causality to be drawn from league performance. And we fairly wound things down early this year after we were safe too. Weird line-up v Mayo, same v Dublin and then no tempo at all v Kerry or NY. We probably started drifting off into the Summer earlier than any other team.
It has nothing to do with training and absolutely everything to do with mentality.
Heart in mouth stuff in Gaelic Park today. I thought our first performance there in 2006 under Maughan was dodgy even though we came away with something like a seven or eight point win, helped by a fortunate penalty. Today I was expecting a comfortable win, especially given that it was a cold, wet day in New York and not the sweltering heat that Connacht counties have had to face before. It was Hyde Park weather really. We were hanging on for dear life in the end. This team don't do well when faced with a physical challenge - that was evident after the game with Mayo. They also don't do well in a tight pitch and are easily crowded out. Senan Kilbride came on at the end and scored a tremendous point from the sideline. I thought he was mad to try it at the time but we couldn't buy a score at that stage. It was the difference in the end. The New York goalie did pull off some spectacular saves but they had two great goal chances in the second half, including their last point which thankfully flew over the bar. Had that gone in, we were one down with time up and I doubt we'd have been able to go down and score an equaliser. McStay and O'Donnell will have a lot of thinking to do after this one. It's unfortunate that Conor Daly has left the panel for the year, we need more physical players like him, that can take the game to opposition. As I said before, we suffer from a terrible lack of height in the backs and there's a lot of consternation caused by this. Cathal Compton will be a great senior player, but he is currently too light for senior football, needs a year to develop, and we risk injuring him further playing him in physical dogfights like this. No disguising we are in big trouble in midfield. Expectations seriously dampened after this. However, for a neutral or NY supporter and there were lots of them in the crowd, it was a very exciting game and not the one-sided meaningless contest they are used to seeing.
How did the bould Johnny Glynn get on for NY? Has he even played football before? I presume he must have at a low level. They usually burst footballs around Ardrahan direction.
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New York manager confident of causing upset on Sunday.
http://www.gaa.ie/football/news/new-york-manager-justin-halloran-confident-they-can-scalp-the-rossies/
Didn't New York Leitrim go to extra time in 2003?
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These lads don't be long turning into Yanks :o blowing bullshit.
hmm...
Fair play to NY for preparing hard for this game and giving it a right tilt, even though they would have been written by most as being bullshitters for claiming they could cause an upset (seriously, what would you expect him to say?!).
What would have happened had they won - would Leitrim have to head to NY or would they (NY) concede the game?
(edit: they being NY, not Leitrim)
I think the answer is a very simple one - Roscommon just aren't very good.
There's no pace in the team, they can't defend, they don't have a midfield and they have a tendency to rollover when their bellies are tickled.
The expectations regarding this team are absurd, there seems to be an arrogance to them that think they belong in the top bracket right now but come Championship they will go and get knocked out by a team they feel are beneath them. Loads of excuses at play but I think it's about time people stopped blowing steam up their arses and took on board the theory that Roscomon are just a mediocre team and their Championship form over the last three to four years will tell you exactly where they are.
I can't recall a county talking about winning or competing for AIs when they are as unfit for purpose as Roscommon are.
Glad that Vinny played well. A terrible shame he was so badly treated by Carew that he is not in his rightful place - between the posts for Sligo. Hopefully we'll see him back in the black and white soon when Carew is gone.
Roscommon were damned if beat NY by a cricket score and damned if they didn't.
Not much has changed. It's a a wake up call for Roscommon and a feather in NY's cap for giving them a fright. Roscommon will go home and regroup knowing that they have to perform better in order to lift Connacht which is now more of an expectation rather than a hope.
Would not be surprised if Rossies were in middle of some hard training .
If Roscommon lost were they out all together? Seeing as no back door for New York would it be the same for whoever they beat?
I can't imagine Roscommon will be too bothered about this, these things happen from time to time and the important thing is that they survived. I've no doubt that this result will have no baring on their championship performance where they will collapase meekly gainst the first decent team they play or the first team to put it up to them. This NYC game doesn't change anything!
Quote from: orangeman on May 02, 2016, 08:44:00 AM
Roscommon were damned if beat NY by a cricket score and damned if they didn't.
Not much has changed. It's a a wake up call for Roscommon and a feather in NY's cap for giving them a fright. Roscommon will go home and regroup knowing that they have to perform better in order to lift Connacht which is now more of an expectation rather than a hope.
No not really! Teams go over year on year and dish out hammerings to NY without even a whisper of talk of how well they will get on in the Championship after such a result. These games are forgotten unless NY ever managed to win.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 02, 2016, 08:43:21 AM
Glad that Vinny played well. A terrible shame he was so badly treated by Carew that he is not in his rightful place - between the posts for Sligo. Hopefully we'll see him back in the black and white soon when Carew is gone.
Did Carew exile him to the US? Do you want him to fly home 3 times a week for training?
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 02, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
If Roscommon lost were they out all together? Seeing as no back door for New York would it be the same for whoever they beat?
There'd have been a preliminary qualifier with one of the other 16 teams in the same boat.
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Quote from: magpie seanie on May 02, 2016, 08:43:21 AM
Glad that Vinny played well. A terrible shame he was so badly treated by Carew that he is not in his rightful place - between the posts for Sligo. Hopefully we'll see him back in the black and white soon when Carew is gone.
Did Carew exile him to the US? Do you want him to fly home 3 times a week for training?
He kicked him off the panel for something that another player (currently starting on the team) was let do. Did it publicly in front of all the panel at a training session outside the county. I believe New York approached him to come out, he only went over in Jan/Feb.
Is that ok?
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 02, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
If Roscommon lost were they out all together? Seeing as no back door for New York would it be the same for whoever they beat?
The Connacht Council would have been fairly decked if the unthinkable happened.
NY won't travel and Laythrum would hardly concede home advantage so they'd get a walkover.
The CC would lose out on the gate of a LM/RN game perhaps €200k gross
The farce of this whole circus !?.
We wouldn't be out if course.
Sure what would the GAAboard's resident ranting expert on Ros football have to post about?
AFL doping and "Free State" bashing can only get you so far.
Anyway we go on to the next Round - a Provincial quarter final no less- so we'll see how it goes.
Laythrum won't fear Ros of course!
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Quote from: mrdeeds on May 02, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
If Roscommon lost were they out all together? Seeing as no back door for New York would it be the same for whoever they beat?
The Connacht Council would have been fairly decked if the unthinkable happened.
NY won't travel and Laythrum would hardly concede home advantage so they'd get a walkover.
The CC would lose out on the gate of a LM/RN game perhaps €200k gross
The farce of this whole circus !?.
We wouldn't be out if course.
Sure what would the GAAboard's resident ranting expert on Ros football have to post about?
AFL doping and "Free State" bashing can only get you so far.
Anyway we go on to the next Round - a Provincial quarter final no less- so we'll see how it goes.
Laythrum won't fear Ros of course!
In 2013 when London had a run to the final in Connacht. It cost the Connacht Council a fair bit in lost gate receipts. Having New York and London in the Connacht Championship is a nice junket for the white collar boys and is grand as long as they are annual whipping boys!
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Wouldn't worry about it. It's not long since the league semis. Training will inevitably go up a notch seen as it was close.
Come off it Farrandeelin. Would you be saying something similar if it was Mayo 1-15 New York 0-17? Long road back for the rossies after that game and a number of the players have surely played themselves out the starting team after that performance.
No, I probably wouldn't. ;D You're probably right. Losing the last 3 games of the league, despite it being only the league is not exactly what Ros had hoped for. Anyway I expect them to beat Leitrim next time out.
Nothing to do with how we finished the league. Won the D2 title with a good performance against Down last year but turned up in London totally palatic a few weeks later. All about championship form.
Relax Sy. This evening wasn't Championship. Really it wasn't. If Ros reach CF they will be in rude good form and expecting to beat whoever they face.
If. Leitrim would have hammered us today.
Leitrim were not playing in NY this evening. Maybe just as well for them.
Why the angst Sy? Thought things were in place? The management most Mayo people wanted, Roscommon have. You wouldn t swap your players for ours - especially the forwards. Vot ist los?
Our U21 team would have hammered New York this evening.
Mayo are likely going no where is their own management reshuffle but we're the most erratic county in Ireland at this stage. Seemingly has very little to do with who's managing us.
This doesn't make sense!! But it does tie in with your remark about getting more senior players from this years U21 than Mayo will. Still does not make sense though? You've got your Shines, Devanneys, Harneys, and Kilbrides and Murtaghs etc.
Mayo will be grand. The 'reshuffle' was necessary and last years arrangement should not have happened. Overall our league was positive as was Roscommon's.
This year's management have shown absolutely nothing to suggest a change of management was anything more than foolhardy arrogance by the players.
Ah jaysys Syf, enough is enough. ;D ;D
I'm beginning to think Rossfan and McIf are dead right; you do seem to have an advanced instance of Mayoitis Dementia. That's mighty serious. I mean seeing life through green and red tinted glasses can be no fun for anyone. Here we are discussing the most inept performance by yer team in a long time and you branch off to have a dig at the "arrogance" of the Mayo players!
What's poor Mayo got to do with anything here?
It's like blaming M\arty Duffy for robbing ye when ye should be out of sight of the opposition. As your mentor, the insightful Rossfan (sort of) put it, Mayo near got bet by London who had 7 league games to prepare for the game in Ruislip, while Roscommon were facing a makey up team that hadn't played a single competitive game.
Mayo learned a hard lesson after the near disaster against London and it's up to ye if the team has the bottle to learn a lesson from yesterday and move on and up and get stuffed next time out.
You're talking here about the "arrogance" of the Mayo side last year, while the arrogance of your shower yesterday doesn't seem to matter to you.
Ross better prepare for Armageddon if any of the team or management shares your point of view!
Mayo's panel 'sacked' their managers after taking the best team in Ireland to a AISF replay - hence whatever anyone wants to say the only result that can make Mayo's circus worthwhile is Rochford immediately winning the AI title. Coupled with an aging panel and a supporter base that will be anything but shy to point the finger at the players if they fail this year the stakes for Mayo are incredibly high this year, mostly brought on top of.themselves.
And you know what? Yer not going to win the AI.
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 02, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
If Roscommon lost were they out all together? Seeing as no back door for New York would it be the same for whoever they beat?
No. They'd be in the preliminary round of the qualifiers.
A win is a win and roscommon will say its great position to be in as it will dampen expectation and take some of the pressure off but heres the thing i watched ros v london last yr and they looked juiced and when the summer pitches come to play they lacked pace and mobility around middle third, it makes things interesting on that side of the draw in connacht as ros look to have come back into the pack again, leitrim game will be interesting but still expect ros to come through and not sure about ourselves this yr as we can be sublime to ridicolous.
Sligo go to new york next yr and id be worried
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 02, 2016, 01:45:16 PM
A win is a win and roscommon will say its great position to be in as it will dampen expectation and take some of the pressure off but heres the thing i watched ros v london last yr and they looked juiced and when the summer pitches come to play they lacked pace and mobility around middle third, it makes things interesting on that side of the draw in connacht as ros look to have come back into the pack again, leitrim game will be interesting but still expect ros to come through and not sure about ourselves this yr as we can be sublime to ridicolous.
Sligo go to new york next yr and id be worried
Mobility far from the issue. Lots of pace in the team. Height is the problem and like Sligo we're totally banjaxed in the middle. Our only starting midfielder left went off injured yesterday. The remaining two on the panel have a grand total of zero senior starts between them.
There must be a few agricultural, big lads living on the Mayo border where there's been a bit of inter-breeding down through the years.
Quote from: Jinxy on May 02, 2016, 02:41:48 PM
There must be a few agricultural, big lads living on the Mayo border where there's been a bit of inter-breeding down through the years.
Lads with surnames such as Lyons, O'Malley and Geraghty? 😉
Nah we're keeping our best and finest these days, our days of giving the likes of little old Meath a dig out are over!
Quote from: Jinxy on May 02, 2016, 02:41:48 PM
There must be a few agricultural, big lads living on the Mayo border where there's been a bit of inter-breeding down through the years.
Mayo have seized that territory and called it Mayo!
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 02, 2016, 04:30:59 AM
How did the bould Johnny Glynn get on for NY? Has he even played football before? I presume he must have at a low level. They usually burst footballs around Ardrahan direction.
He's actually been named on the Caherlistrane senior panel a few times GBB, his family are Caherlistrane people. I've never seen him play now mind you seeing as there's often county hurling games on or coming up when the Galway football championship games are on.
Quote from: Syferus on May 02, 2016, 01:30:56 PM
Mayo's panel 'sacked' their managers after taking the best team in Ireland to a AISF replay - hence whatever anyone wants to say the only result that can make Mayo's circus worthwhile is Rochford immediately winning the AI title. Coupled with an aging panel and a supporter base that will be anything but shy to point the finger at the players if they fail this year the stakes for Mayo are incredibly high this year, mostly brought on top of.themselves.
And you know what? Yer not going to win the AI.
Fecking hell syf, you really do HATE Mayo, don't ya?
Reckon Roscommon mgmt will be secretly happy with that result. Win, plenty to improve on, an excuse to train like f**k and all delusions of grandeur firmly extinguished (among players, not sure about fans, judging by some on here)
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Quote from: Syferus on May 02, 2016, 01:30:56 PM
Mayo's panel 'sacked' their managers after taking the best team in Ireland to a AISF replay - hence whatever anyone wants to say the only result that can make Mayo's circus worthwhile is Rochford immediately winning the AI title. Coupled with an aging panel and a supporter base that will be anything but shy to point the finger at the players if they fail this year the stakes for Mayo are incredibly high this year, mostly brought on top of.themselves.
And you know what? Yer not going to win the AI.
Fecking hell syf, you really do HATE Mayo, don't ya?
Not a bit of hate. What the Mayo panel did was hardly their finest moment. It's simply stating a fact that they've put a lot of pressure on themselves and in all likelihood they will still come up short. Mayo probably the second best team in Ireland, but the gap between first and second is becoming bigger not smaller. Mayo could have got the very best manager in Ireland and I'd be surprised if they would have been able to improve significantly on 2015's performance as a settled and improving Dublin set-up continued to sweep all before them.
In fairness Mayo managed to avoid being relegated in the league this year whereas Galway's hurlers made the drop after they went 'premiership' on their manager. The success or non-success of Mayo and Galway this year will go aways to telling us how much of the failures in previous years rested with the players and how much rested with the management. I have a feeling it's going to be the former.
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Quote from: Syferus on May 02, 2016, 01:30:56 PM
Mayo's panel 'sacked' their managers after taking the best team in Ireland to a AISF replay - hence whatever anyone wants to say the only result that can make Mayo's circus worthwhile is Rochford immediately winning the AI title. Coupled with an aging panel and a supporter base that will be anything but shy to point the finger at the players if they fail this year the stakes for Mayo are incredibly high this year, mostly brought on top of.themselves.
And you know what? Yer not going to win the AI.
Fecking hell syf, you really do HATE Mayo, don't ya?
Hate Mayo? That's a good one, he has green and red blood in him such is his love for them, don't be fooled by him, he would want mayo to hammer roscommon every time they meet.
Found this on twitter
https://twitter.com/Drochfhocal/status/726862442895167488
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Quote from: Jinxy on May 02, 2016, 02:41:48 PM
There must be a few agricultural, big lads living on the Mayo border where there's been a bit of inter-breeding down through the years.
Lads with surnames such as Lyons, O'Malley and Geraghty? 😉
Nah we're keeping our best and finest these days, our days of giving the likes of little old Meath a dig out are over!
When did we ever get a dig out from Roscommon?
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There must be a few agricultural, big lads living on the Mayo border where there's been a bit of inter-breeding down through the years.
Lads with surnames such as Lyons, O'Malley and Geraghty? 😉
Nah we're keeping our best and finest these days, our days of giving the likes of little old Meath a dig out are over!
When did we ever get a dig out from Roscommon?
Weak, just like your Meath ladeens!
Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
Do many of that NY team have senior inter-county experience?
Quote from: INDIANA on May 02, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Quote from: Syferus on May 02, 2016, 01:30:56 PM
Mayo's panel 'sacked' their managers after taking the best team in Ireland to a AISF replay - hence whatever anyone wants to say the only result that can make Mayo's circus worthwhile is Rochford immediately winning the AI title. Coupled with an aging panel and a supporter base that will be anything but shy to point the finger at the players if they fail this year the stakes for Mayo are incredibly high this year, mostly brought on top of.themselves.
And you know what? Yer not going to win the AI.
C'mon Syf, it's time you took a break. This thread has nothing to do with Mayo. You should listen to Rossfan and McIf, they are only for your own good, you know.
The facts about Mayo 'sacking' their managers are in the public domain and have been since the story became public knowledge. After an amazing comeback, Mayo brought the semi to a replay and felt that the incompetence of the management duo cost them that game. I don't need to go into detail, do I? I don't accept that anyone with a bit of oil in their lamp would disagree with that.
After watching the AI final, the Mayo players felt they could have beaten either team if the two boyos only knew their asses from their elbows. So they had a meeting and decided to inform the CB that they wanted a meeting to discuss their grievances. Anything unreasonable about that?
Some bastard made the contents of the letter to the CB public and after that he two men in charge were dead men walking. The players never wanted to publicly humiliate the pair but whoever leaked the letter saw to that.
Don't bother your donkey about the Mayo side worrying about anything or the Mayo public demanding anything from our lads. Mayo teams have come up short umpteen times and the fans never lost belief in them and never will. As long as they leave it all one the field, win or lose, we'll be happy to accept the result.
Same goes for Rochy; I think all Mayo fans will wish him well and we are most unlikely to follow your example and try to kick the effing door down if we ever disagree with our manager.
Just bear in mind that people in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones. ;D
This thread is hilarious. Syferus turns an actual Roscommon thread into a debate about Mayo,when he usually tries to turn every other thread into a discussion about Roscommon.
Worst poster on this board with the possible exception of Tony Fearon.
The Mayo lads are well able to turn a thread about anything else into a debate about Mayo without Syferus getting involved.
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Quote from: INDIANA on May 02, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
In fairness back in 2001 Roscommon were not average, they were established div one team regularly reaching the league semi finals, that group of players would have won more but for the players acting up and with a better choice of management.
A better example would be 2014 or 2011 when Roscommon were playing their league football in Div 3 2014 and div 4 in 2011 and still managed to push Mayo all the way in the championship.
Roscommon remind me a bit of Derry's team a couple of years ago. Go well in the league and likely won't do much come championship time.
Kevin McStay on RTE news tonight looked like a man at funeral. Goosed he said Roscommon would have been if that late New York goal chance was scored. Well it looks like Roscommons championship is already goosed before it starts on Irish soil.
Quote from: Jinxy on May 02, 2016, 06:16:16 PM
The Mayo lads are well able to turn a thread about anything else into a debate about Mayo without Syferus getting involved.
Which, m'lud, has sweet eff all to do with the topic in question.
Even if Mayo heads were to hijack every other thread on the planet, Syf is fecking this one up big time, same as the u21 one as well and God knows how many others.
BTW, can you point out any thread that was hijacked by Mayo posters without Syf playing a major part in aiding and abetting them?
It's Mayo day isn't it, Syphillis is probably just raging there is no Roscommon day.
Roscommon are some shit, sorry, some things just need the fecking articulating :D
Quote from: Itchy on May 02, 2016, 06:53:17 PM
It's Mayo day isn't it, Syphillis is probably just raging there is no Roscommon day.
He is just out on the lash in ballagh for the Mayo under 21 welcoming, that is why there isn't a word from him lately, great days like this for him don't come around too often, if he is lucky he might get to see Andy in there
I'd just like to remind people there is an ignore function.
Quote from: J70 on May 02, 2016, 05:20:09 PM
Do many of that NY team have senior inter-county experience?
The only one I know is Keith Quinn who played for us...do New York get in the back door??
That fella mcniece, assuming that is the guy from tyrone, is bound to have? He was close to a starter for tyrone for a while was he not?
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 02, 2016, 08:38:21 PM
That fella mcniece, assuming that is the guy from tyrone, is bound to have? He was close to a starter for tyrone for a while was he not?
Yes that's him. He was a very good minor around 2008 I think.
I think he was on an ai winning minor team. The name duane rings a bell too but not 100% sure on him.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 02, 2016, 07:49:27 PM
I'd just like to remind people there is an ignore function.
There is, but no option to block whoever you want to block in quotes.
Why would you want to ignore Syferus?
He's probably one of the top 5 Roscommon posters.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 02, 2016, 09:36:01 PM
I think he was on an ai winning minor team. The name duane rings a bell too but not 100% sure on him.
Duane was regular Galway starter.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 02, 2016, 05:29:54 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 02, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Nobody has written any obituary. My fear for Roscommon has been they never annexed an AI Title from all these u21 teams at u21 level.
Similar to Cavan I believe that can get you to Div 1 but not any further unless you're winning these titles. Cavan have fallen short with 4 teams at AI Stage.
They have some excellent young players but I'm not sure they have enough yet.
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Quote from: INDIANA on May 02, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Nobody has written any obituary. My fear for Roscommon has been they never annexed an AI Title from all these u21 teams at u21 level.
Similar to Cavan I believe that can get you to Div 1 but not any further unless you're winning these titles. Cavan have fallen short with 4 teams at AI Stage.
They have some excellent young players but I'm not sure they have enough yet.
Both Counties are working from a small base. They are both football mad and have a proud history. Yeah, I know they have not won AI titles, but at least they have done it consistently at Provincial level recently and that level of exposure has to count for something.
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Quote from: INDIANA on May 02, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Nobody has written any obituary. My fear for Roscommon has been they never annexed an AI Title from all these u21 teams at u21 level.
Similar to Cavan I believe that can get you to Div 1 but not any further unless you're winning these titles. Cavan have fallen short with 4 teams at AI Stage.
They have some excellent young players but I'm not sure they have enough yet.
Both Counties are working from a small base. They are both football mad and have a proud history. Yeah, I know they have not won AI titles, but at least they have done it consistently at Provincial level recently and that level of exposure has to count for something.
It'll get you so far. Winning an AI at u21 level is a sign that a group of players has real quality about it. So 2-3 players you get of an AI winning U21 team can really bolster a senior side as they are coming in as being the best in the country
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Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Nobody has written any obituary. My fear for Roscommon has been they never annexed an AI Title from all these u21 teams at u21 level.
Similar to Cavan I believe that can get you to Div 1 but not any further unless you're winning these titles. Cavan have fallen short with 4 teams at AI Stage.
They have some excellent young players but I'm not sure they have enough yet.
Both Counties are working from a small base. They are both football mad and have a proud history. Yeah, I know they have not won AI titles, but at least they have done it consistently at Provincial level recently and that level of exposure has to count for something.
It'll get you so far. Winning an AI at u21 level is a sign that a group of players has real quality about it. So 2-3 players you get of an AI winning U21 team can really bolster a senior side as they are coming in as being the best in the country
Look Tyrone proved that underage titles from the late 90's and early '00 led onto Senior Ai's. On the other hand Kerry recent AI wins came from little or no under age so it's hard to know the connection.
Yesterday was awful but I remain optimistic for a good championship. We are now at a one game at a time approach and that won't change now, no harm either. The fact that we did not win an U21 final with all those good teams means nothing. We have a small population base and really didn't have the strength in depth to cover for the loss of Compton and Mullooly in the second half this year. We were leading Dublin in the second half of the 2012 All-Ireland but Dublin had the impact subs to turn the game. More important that the players these teams throw up make us competitive - although a good few have experienced All-Ireland success whether it be club or minor. We've seen them take us from Division 4 to Division 1 in five years. This has not translated into championship success. Give it time though, it will. Right now onwards to Leitirm.
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Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Nobody has written any obituary. My fear for Roscommon has been they never annexed an AI Title from all these u21 teams at u21 level.
Similar to Cavan I believe that can get you to Div 1 but not any further unless you're winning these titles. Cavan have fallen short with 4 teams at AI Stage.
They have some excellent young players but I'm not sure they have enough yet.
Both Counties are working from a small base. They are both football mad and have a proud history. Yeah, I know they have not won AI titles, but at least they have done it consistently at Provincial level recently and that level of exposure has to count for something.
It'll get you so far. Winning an AI at u21 level is a sign that a group of players has real quality about it. So 2-3 players you get of an AI winning U21 team can really bolster a senior side as they are coming in as being the best in the country
Galway on the other hand have won all Ireland's at underage and have made no senior break through. There is no formula that fits all
Quote from: Jinxy on May 02, 2016, 09:57:03 PM
Why would you want to ignore Syferus?
He's probably one of the top 5 Roscommon posters.
Good God, I don't think anyone could/would/should do that! There is definitely no probably about it, Syf is the main attraction around here. I'm just a bit concerned about his health and general well-being. The poor devil spends more time worrying about our problems than he does about his own.
I think I can speak for most (all?) Mayo heads here when I say we have no problem with the team, the manager or the tea ladies or anyone else. I'd like to thank him for his concern about our welfare but there's no need to dwell on our problems, everything is grand with Mayo- honest.
Stop. Sure he's gone pure giddy altogether since Saturday ;D
He couldn't care less about Ros now seeing as we couldn't bate NY (moral defeat) while the Rhus were winning an All Ireland.
He'll probably ditch Brigids as well now ;D
Missed the highlights tonight but was told our defending was total Junior B stuff.
To concede 17 points to a make up team it had to be.
No doubt we won't be as bad again but getting to the Connacht Final and avoiding a Rhubarb humiliation is the most we have to look forward to. :-\
Ah well Rome wasn't built in a day and the management did say it's a 4 year project.
Poor Syf gets too much 'abuse' is probably too strong a word for it here. He's a passionate character I'd say. Sometimes he wades in unecessarily rambling about Roscommn, but that's the way he is.
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Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Nobody has written any obituary. My fear for Roscommon has been they never annexed an AI Title from all these u21 teams at u21 level.
Similar to Cavan I believe that can get you to Div 1 but not any further unless you're winning these titles. Cavan have fallen short with 4 teams at AI Stage.
They have some excellent young players but I'm not sure they have enough yet.
Both Counties are working from a small base. They are both football mad and have a proud history. Yeah, I know they have not won AI titles, but at least they have done it consistently at Provincial level recently and that level of exposure has to count for something.
It'll get you so far. Winning an AI at u21 level is a sign that a group of players has real quality about it. So 2-3 players you get of an AI winning U21 team can really bolster a senior side as they are coming in as being the best in the country
Look Tyrone proved that underage titles from the late 90's and early '00 led onto Senior Ai's. On the other hand Kerry recent AI wins came from little or no under age so it's hard to know the connection.
You can't compare a county like Kerry where Gaelic Football is a religion to Roscommon. You're also inaccurate
They also won 3 AI u21 tiles 1995, 1996, 1998 which backboned the 97-08 teams. The were also beaten by westmeath in 1999 AI u21 Final.
Kerry did win an AI U21 with Tommy Walsh and a few others playing circa 2008. Which helped them win 2009.
they nicked one against the run of play in 2014. That's really the only one they've won with no underage success leading into it.
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Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Nobody has written any obituary. My fear for Roscommon has been they never annexed an AI Title from all these u21 teams at u21 level.
Similar to Cavan I believe that can get you to Div 1 but not any further unless you're winning these titles. Cavan have fallen short with 4 teams at AI Stage.
They have some excellent young players but I'm not sure they have enough yet.
Both Counties are working from a small base. They are both football mad and have a proud history. Yeah, I know they have not won AI titles, but at least they have done it consistently at Provincial level recently and that level of exposure has to count for something.
It'll get you so far. Winning an AI at u21 level is a sign that a group of players has real quality about it. So 2-3 players you get of an AI winning U21 team can really bolster a senior side as they are coming in as being the best in the country
Galway on the other hand have won all Ireland's at underage and have made no senior break through. There is no formula that fits all
Exactly. Was just about to post something similar. Galway won last senior in 2001. Since then they've won 4 u21s without anybody really noticing - probably especially themselves! That's 4 out of the 5 they've ever won at U21. Yet their seniors arguably have been in decline slowly but incrementally since 2001. Doesn t add up. Or maybe it does? As we saw the last couple of weeks U21 is still a bit of a old style open game.
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Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Nobody has written any obituary. My fear for Roscommon has been they never annexed an AI Title from all these u21 teams at u21 level.
Similar to Cavan I believe that can get you to Div 1 but not any further unless you're winning these titles. Cavan have fallen short with 4 teams at AI Stage.
They have some excellent young players but I'm not sure they have enough yet.
Both Counties are working from a small base. They are both football mad and have a proud history. Yeah, I know they have not won AI titles, but at least they have done it consistently at Provincial level recently and that level of exposure has to count for something.
It'll get you so far. Winning an AI at u21 level is a sign that a group of players has real quality about it. So 2-3 players you get of an AI winning U21 team can really bolster a senior side as they are coming in as being the best in the country
Galway on the other hand have won all Ireland's at underage and have made no senior break through. There is no formula that fits all
Exactly. Was just about to post something similar. Galway won last senior in 2001. Since then they've won 4 u21s without anybody really noticing - probably especially themselves! That's 4 out of the 5 they've ever won at U21. Yet their seniors arguably have been in decline slowly but incrementally since 2001. Doesn t add up. Or maybe it does? As we saw the last couple of weeks U21 is still a bit of a old style open game.
Give me that style over modern senior football that is bogged down with systems and game plans resulting few enjoyable games.
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Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Nobody has written any obituary. My fear for Roscommon has been they never annexed an AI Title from all these u21 teams at u21 level.
Similar to Cavan I believe that can get you to Div 1 but not any further unless you're winning these titles. Cavan have fallen short with 4 teams at AI Stage.
They have some excellent young players but I'm not sure they have enough yet.
Both Counties are working from a small base. They are both football mad and have a proud history. Yeah, I know they have not won AI titles, but at least they have done it consistently at Provincial level recently and that level of exposure has to count for something.
It'll get you so far. Winning an AI at u21 level is a sign that a group of players has real quality about it. So 2-3 players you get of an AI winning U21 team can really bolster a senior side as they are coming in as being the best in the country
Galway on the other hand have won all Ireland's at underage and have made no senior break through. There is no formula that fits all
Exactly. Was just about to post something similar. Galway won last senior in 2001. Since then they've won 4 u21s without anybody really noticing - probably especially themselves! That's 4 out of the 5 they've ever won at U21. Yet their seniors arguably have been in decline slowly but incrementally since 2001. Doesn t add up. Or maybe it does? As we saw the last couple of weeks U21 is still a bit of a old style open game.
Give me that style over modern senior football that is bogged down with systems and game plans resulting few enjoyable games.
Well me too. But there is no going back is there?
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Last night's near-disaster for Roscommon should be a good thing in the long term because it will temper expectations about where they are really at. They are at least 3 years away from being at an AI Semi final stage unless they get the handiest draw ever through.
You can't make any excuses for nearly losing to a team with no match practice and literally cobbled together.
When Roscommon win 2-3 Connacht senior titles in quick succession they can then start talking about competing at the business end . Mayo people must look in bemusement at times in some of the Roscommon talk.
We actually don't! There is always a tough lesson around the corner from Roscommon! We've had many a fine team ambushed by a so called average Roscommon side! In 2001 when Mayo were League Champions and Galway went on to be AI Champions both were beaten in the Connacht Championship by the Rossies. I'd hold back on writing their obituary based on a game they won, be it only marginally, but they still won. League wise they have come a long way in a short period. There are going to be wobbly phases of course. But they are in a better place to 5 years ago.
Nobody has written any obituary. My fear for Roscommon has been they never annexed an AI Title from all these u21 teams at u21 level.
Similar to Cavan I believe that can get you to Div 1 but not any further unless you're winning these titles. Cavan have fallen short with 4 teams at AI Stage.
They have some excellent young players but I'm not sure they have enough yet.
Both Counties are working from a small base. They are both football mad and have a proud history. Yeah, I know they have not won AI titles, but at least they have done it consistently at Provincial level recently and that level of exposure has to count for something.
It'll get you so far. Winning an AI at u21 level is a sign that a group of players has real quality about it. So 2-3 players you get of an AI winning U21 team can really bolster a senior side as they are coming in as being the best in the country
Galway on the other hand have won all Ireland's at underage and have made no senior break through. There is no formula that fits all
Exactly. Was just about to post something similar. Galway won last senior in 2001. Since then they've won 4 u21s without anybody really noticing - probably especially themselves! That's 4 out of the 5 they've ever won at U21. Yet their seniors arguably have been in decline slowly but incrementally since 2001. Doesn t add up. Or maybe it does? As we saw the last couple of weeks U21 is still a bit of a old style open game.
Give me that style over modern senior football that is bogged down with systems and game plans resulting few enjoyable games.
Well me too. But there is no going back is there?
Probably not and the mark next year is unlikely to improve the viewing.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 02, 2016, 11:46:12 PM
Poor Syf gets too much 'abuse' is probably too strong a word for it here. He's a passionate character I'd say. Sometimes he wades in unecessarily rambling about Roscommn, but that's the way he is.
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Poor Syf gets too much 'abuse' is probably too strong a word for it here. He's a passionate character I'd say. Sometimes he wades in unecessarily rambling about Roscommn, but that's the way he is.
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Barber!! His own tatch is a bit iffy!
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Poor Syf gets too much 'abuse' is probably too strong a word for it here. He's a passionate character I'd say. Sometimes he wades in unecessarily rambling about Roscommn, but that's the way he is.
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Barber!! His own tatch is a bit iffy!
And he goes to feck all games too. Just makes sure he's seen at the high profile ones. >:(
Give the man a break, he has hair to cut.
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Poor Syf gets too much 'abuse' is probably too strong a word for it here. He's a passionate character I'd say. Sometimes he wades in unecessarily rambling about Roscommn, but that's the way he is.
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Barber!! His own tatch is a bit iffy!
And he goes to feck all games too. Just makes sure he's seen at the high profile ones. >:(
He's wasted in the salon so, should be in the Dáil with that ability in his locker.
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Poor Syf gets too much 'abuse' is probably too strong a word for it here. He's a passionate character I'd say. Sometimes he wades in unecessarily rambling about Roscommn, but that's the way he is.
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Barber!! His own tatch is a bit iffy!
And he goes to feck all games too. Just makes sure he's seen at the high profile ones. >:(
Did Paddy piss in your tea or something?
Really surprised that NY ran Roscommon so close. I was going to go to the game but it was pissing rain and I figured it would be a blow out.
Very surprised with the result but would be wary of a wounded Roscommon team - probably the best thing that ever happened to them, at least they survived unlike us in London a few years ago.
Sligo won't be taking next year's trip to the big apple too nonchalantly after this.
Loughlin and freeman looked good for NY. Where's loughlin from?
Niall Egan came on for NY as a sub. Just wondering who was the last Bonny lad to play championship football. Probably his Dad?
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Loughlin and freeman looked good for NY. Where's loughlin from?
Westmeath. Played minor with them in 2013,U21 2014.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 04, 2016, 12:03:04 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 03, 2016, 10:53:40 PM
Loughlin and freeman looked good for NY. Where's loughlin from?
Westmeath. Played minor with them in 2013,U21 2014.
Talented player but independent minded. Keith Scally is from Westmeath too, played in the dying embers of the O'Flaherta reign. Was captain of NY last year.
Quote from: Jinxy on May 03, 2016, 01:20:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 02, 2016, 11:46:12 PM
Poor Syf gets too much 'abuse' is probably too strong a word for it here. He's a passionate character I'd say. Sometimes he wades in unecessarily rambling about Roscommn, but that's the way he is.
(http://img.rasset.ie/00050666-500.jpg)
Looks like the love child of Willie Joe Padden and Magnum PI.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 04, 2016, 09:22:32 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 04, 2016, 12:03:04 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 03, 2016, 10:53:40 PM
Loughlin and freeman looked good for NY. Where's loughlin from?
Westmeath. Played minor with them in 2013,U21 2014.
Talented player but independent minded. Keith Scally is from Westmeath too, played in the dying embers of the O'Flaherta reign. Was captain of NY last year.
Independent minded 😄 That is seriously diplomatic Croi. He didn't play u21 in 2014 as he was dropped from the panel. Not a fan of training. However, he is a fantastically talented footballer.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 04, 2016, 12:00:53 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 03, 2016, 01:20:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 02, 2016, 11:46:12 PM
Poor Syf gets too much 'abuse' is probably too strong a word for it here. He's a passionate character I'd say. Sometimes he wades in unecessarily rambling about Roscommn, but that's the way he is.
(http://img.rasset.ie/00050666-500.jpg)
Looks like the love child of Willie Joe Padden and Magnum PI.
He kicked the first point of the new millennium in the Hyde. Wilkie Joe wishes he was as good as Paddy Joe.
Quote from: Syferus on May 04, 2016, 01:16:33 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 04, 2016, 12:00:53 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 03, 2016, 01:20:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 02, 2016, 11:46:12 PM
Poor Syf gets too much 'abuse' is probably too strong a word for it here. He's a passionate character I'd say. Sometimes he wades in unecessarily rambling about Roscommn, but that's the way he is.
(http://img.rasset.ie/00050666-500.jpg)
Looks like the love child of Willie Joe Padden and Magnum PI.
He kicked the first point of the new millennium in the Hyde. Wilkie Joe wishes he was as good as Paddy Joe.
Was he playing with the permanent wave in the first half?
Quote from: shark on May 04, 2016, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 04, 2016, 09:22:32 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 04, 2016, 12:03:04 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 03, 2016, 10:53:40 PM
Loughlin and freeman looked good for NY. Where's loughlin from?
Westmeath. Played minor with them in 2013,U21 2014.
Talented player but independent minded. Keith Scally is from Westmeath too, played in the dying embers of the O'Flaherta reign. Was captain of NY last year.
Independent minded 😄 That is seriously diplomatic Croi. He didn't play u21 in 2014 as he was dropped from the panel. Not a fan of training. However, he is a fantastically talented footballer.
Played u21 2014 in the Hastings cup. Axed by Paul Bealin before the Leinster championship for disciplinary reasons, he left for New York soon after that.
Quote from: shark on May 04, 2016, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 04, 2016, 09:22:32 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 04, 2016, 12:03:04 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 03, 2016, 10:53:40 PM
Loughlin and freeman looked good for NY. Where's loughlin from?
Westmeath. Played minor with them in 2013,U21 2014.
Talented player but independent minded. Keith Scally is from Westmeath too, played in the dying embers of the O'Flaherta reign. Was captain of NY last year.
Independent minded 😄 That is seriously diplomatic Croi. He didn't play u21 in 2014 as he was dropped from the panel. Not a fan of training. However, he is a fantastically talented footballer.
;D Thought that might get a bite or two.
Who are we on about here? Paddy Joe or somebody else.
Paddy Joe is an older version of Syf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CcDIdd2ycQ
If Roscommon had lost were they out similar to New York are now?
Quote from: blanketattack on May 05, 2016, 12:49:40 AM
If Roscommon had lost were they out similar to New York are now?
If they lost they wouldn't have come home, so in essence yes.
Quote from: Syferus on May 02, 2016, 01:30:56 PM
Mayo's panel 'sacked' their managers after taking the best team in Ireland to a AISF replay - hence whatever anyone wants to say the only result that can make Mayo's circus worthwhile is Rochford immediately winning the AI title. Coupled with an aging panel and a supporter base that will be anything but shy to point the finger at the players if they fail this year the stakes for Mayo are incredibly high this year, mostly brought on top of.themselves.
And you know what? Yer not going to win the AI.
forgive him Lord for he knows not what the f**k he's talkin about