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Maroon Manc

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« Reply #870 on: May 02, 2018, 11:59:01 AM »
Real a pale shadow of last years team, I've given up any hope of them stopping Liverpool. Real's record is something else in Europe these last 5 years, going for their 4th win when I wouldn't consider them one of the best teams I've seen the last 30 years as they've only won one league title during that time.

Hasnt stopped Liverpool, they havent won a league in over 20 years but have managed to blow teams away this year in the CL, granted Madrid wont be lying down but I wouldnt have them favourites for the final, the defending was pure school boy stuff, never held their lines the fullbacks never tracked their men, stayed up front and only last ditch defending enabled them to get to the final!

I've never seen a Madrid team give the ball away so much, unless they were playing Barca

28 years  ;)

You have to give Liverpool credit, to reach 3 CL finals since 2005 is a great achievement considering they've not have great teams.

What 3 finals?

05,07 and the one you'll make tonight.


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« Reply #871 on: May 02, 2018, 12:07:44 PM »
Ha!

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« Reply #872 on: May 02, 2018, 12:21:51 PM »
Think Maroon Manc should be banned for this behaviour
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« Reply #873 on: May 02, 2018, 09:40:02 PM »
Madrid will make hay against that defence all right but Liverpool will also score. Should be a goal fest.

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« Reply #874 on: May 02, 2018, 09:42:04 PM »
Madrid will make hay against that defence all right but Liverpool will also score. Should be a goal fest.
4-3 Liverpool win in the final i reckon.

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« Reply #875 on: May 03, 2018, 09:45:37 AM »
Avoided the game last night apart from watching 10 minutes when Roma equalised then Liverpool went 2-1 up.

I've a little hope now but expecting the worst, to go 5-0 up during the first leg then be hanging on near the end shows what Liverpool are about, still think their a fair bit of winning a league title thankfully.,

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« Reply #876 on: May 03, 2018, 09:52:46 AM »
As I was watching it, I was thinking "Would you ever see a Mourinho team concede 6 goals in a situation like that?".  Then I thought "Would you ever see a Mourinho team score 7 goals to be 7-4 up on aggregate after 170 odd minutes of a two leg tie?"

A machine that could combine Mourinho and Klopp would produce some manager.

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« Reply #877 on: May 03, 2018, 09:56:13 AM »
Jurgen and rafa 😉

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« Reply #878 on: May 03, 2018, 09:58:16 AM »
As I was watching it, I was thinking "Would you ever see a Mourinho team concede 6 goals in a situation like that?".  Then I thought "Would you ever see a Mourinho team score 7 goals to be 7-4 up on aggregate after 170 odd minutes of a two leg tie?"

A machine that could combine Mourinho and Klopp would produce some manager.

He was called Fergie

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« Reply #879 on: May 03, 2018, 10:29:08 AM »
As I was watching it, I was thinking "Would you ever see a Mourinho team concede 6 goals in a situation like that?".  Then I thought "Would you ever see a Mourinho team score 7 goals to be 7-4 up on aggregate after 170 odd minutes of a two leg tie?"

A machine that could combine Mourinho and Klopp would produce some manager.

He was called Fergie

Different times though. For the majority of Ferguson’s tenure he was the richest kid in the playground. He had to compete with arsenal on a regular basis and the occasional good Liverpool/ Newcastle etc team but very little else until Abramovich appeared on the scene. City appeared towards the end of his reign. The tide had turned before he quit, his last title was one of his best achievements in my book.

 What I admired about his teams was the “go for the jugular” approach where they generally tried to kill teams off. You very rarely saw them sitting back the way Liverpool did last night or Mourinho does every game.

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« Reply #880 on: May 03, 2018, 10:47:55 AM »
As I was watching it, I was thinking "Would you ever see a Mourinho team concede 6 goals in a situation like that?".  Then I thought "Would you ever see a Mourinho team score 7 goals to be 7-4 up on aggregate after 170 odd minutes of a two leg tie?"

A machine that could combine Mourinho and Klopp would produce some manager.

He was called Fergie

Different times though. For the majority of Ferguson’s tenure he was the richest kid in the playground. He had to compete with arsenal on a regular basis and the occasional good Liverpool/ Newcastle etc team but very little else until Abramovich appeared on the scene. City appeared towards the end of his reign. The tide had turned before he quit, his last title was one of his best achievements in my book.

 What I admired about his teams was the “go for the jugular” approach where they generally tried to kill teams off. You very rarely saw them sitting back the way Liverpool did last night or Mourinho does every game.

He had money but mostly spent it wisely but so often had to balance the books especially in the summer of 95 and then again when the Glazers arrived. There isn't a great deal between what United spent from the late 80's for the next 20 years and what Liverpool spent, the difference was they wasted it. I wanted rid of Fergie in 05, thought he'd lost it and was spending too much time away from club/changing ground,  then performed miracles in the transfer market bringing in Van Der Sar, Vidic & Evra for very little; Within 18 months United had become the best team in Europe, it was a turnaround I didn't see coming.


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« Reply #881 on: May 03, 2018, 10:54:50 AM »
As I was watching it, I was thinking "Would you ever see a Mourinho team concede 6 goals in a situation like that?".  Then I thought "Would you ever see a Mourinho team score 7 goals to be 7-4 up on aggregate after 170 odd minutes of a two leg tie?"

A machine that could combine Mourinho and Klopp would produce some manager.

He was called Fergie

Different times though. For the majority of Ferguson’s tenure he was the richest kid in the playground. He had to compete with arsenal on a regular basis and the occasional good Liverpool/ Newcastle etc team but very  ::)little else until Abramovich appeared on the scene. City appeared towards the end of his reign. The tide had turned before he quit, his last title was one of his best achievements in my book.

 What I admired about his teams was the “go for the jugular” approach where they generally tried to kill teams off. You very rarely saw them sitting back the way Liverpool did last night or Mourinho does every game.

He had money but mostly spent it wisely but so often had to balance the books especially in the summer of 95 and then again when the Glazers arrived. There isn't a great deal between what United spent from the late 80's for the next 20 years and what Liverpool spent, the difference was they wasted it. I wanted rid of Fergie in 05, thought he'd lost it and was spending too much time away from club/changing ground,  then performed miracles in the transfer market bringing in Van Der Sar, Vidic & Evra for very little; Within 18 months United had become the best team in Europe, it was a turnaround I didn't see coming.
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« Reply #882 on: May 03, 2018, 11:05:38 AM »
There was plenty amongst United's match going support who thought his time was up, United were miles behind Chelsea and he was missing training sessions to go and watch his horses train. United had gone out in the group stage in the CL in late 05 and add in the Glazers had taken over and their wasn't much money to spend it looked very glum going forward. The football had become very mundane too.

Keane gave him the rocket up his arse he needed, he didn't look back after that.

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« Reply #883 on: May 03, 2018, 12:26:31 PM »
Avoided the game last night apart from watching 10 minutes when Roma equalised then Liverpool went 2-1 up.

I've a little hope now but expecting the worst, to go 5-0 up during the first leg then be hanging on near the end shows what Liverpool are about, still think their a fair bit of winning a league title thankfully.,

They will always ship goals because of Klopp's instinct to push them forward.  Losing big leads has been a trend with this team but it's slowly being addressed.  Van Dijk's arrival has already seen a big improvement at the back and a lot less goals conceded.  A few quality additions in the summer will help further.  Last night showed again that Klarius and Lovren are not to be trusted in the bigger games.  A bit more nous in game management and cynicism at times to break play up when a team has a run on them would help too.
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« Reply #884 on: May 03, 2018, 12:50:50 PM »
Avoided the game last night apart from watching 10 minutes when Roma equalised then Liverpool went 2-1 up.

I've a little hope now but expecting the worst, to go 5-0 up during the first leg then be hanging on near the end shows what Liverpool are about, still think their a fair bit of winning a league title thankfully.,

They will always ship goals because of Klopp's instinct to push them forward.  Losing big leads has been a trend with this team but it's slowly being addressed.  Van Dijk's arrival has already seen a big improvement at the back and a lot less goals conceded.  A few quality additions in the summer will help further.  Last night showed again that Klarius and Lovren are not to be trusted in the bigger games.  A bit more nous in game management and cynicism at times to break play up when a team has a run on them would help too.

They've certainly improved but to win a title he's going to have find some quality players mainly a goalie, a centre half and and a real quality attacking player to push the front 3. I don't know how many points they've dropped at home but appears they've a real problem with teams who come to defend at Anfield.

Klopp worked wonders in the transfer market the past 12 months, it won't be easy to replicate it especially when their won't be huge sums available.