China Coronavirus

Started by lurganblue, January 23, 2020, 09:52:32 AM

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Gmac

Why don't Pfizer and other companies send vaccines to poor countries if that's where variants are coming from ? No money there  ?

J70

Quote from: Thastheball on January 03, 2022, 06:35:05 PM
5-11 year olds vaccinated. Is there anyone on this thread who supports that policy?

I might as well say it now rather than wait, your  head is well up where the sun doesn't shine if u do!!

Both my kids are under 11 and vaccinated.

J70

Quote from: Thastheball on January 03, 2022, 06:41:34 PM
J70, Its not, very few here arguing that. But my gut says no until there is over whelming evidence its safe.  No hidden stories, people who have had deaths and serious side effects sidelined from telling their stories. For me its about time.

What the feck is the end game with 5-11 yr olds getting a vaccine they without doubt don't need.

How much time?

If everyone opted for "overwhelming evidence that its safe" (whatever that would be), where would we be now?

Is it purely coincidental that the vaccinated and, especially, boosted, are faring so much better with Omicron?

RedHand88

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Quote from: Gmac on January 03, 2022, 07:38:49 PM
Why don't Pfizer and other companies send vaccines to poor countries if that's where variants are coming from ? No money there  ?

Which countries? India and South Africa are the 5th and 32nd biggest countries in terms of GDP in the world, not to mention China where it originated and its second!

How do you propose getting the vaccines transported at -80C, defrosted safely, drawn up and administered correctly to billions of people?

It can't be done that easily.

RedHand88

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 03, 2022, 06:46:50 PM
Not on for 5-11yr getting vaccinated myself but u say I could get 90% backing to get your barred from the board after numerous come backs.

Children already get a dozen vaccines before they're 11. Yes I would support it if the data showed it was safe. No brainer.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Thastheball on January 03, 2022, 12:18:02 PM
This expert view

  https://twitter.com/p_mcculloughmd/status/1477852348886224901?s=21

Have to say I agree
Good to hear none of the infected had serious symptoms. Looks like the vaccine is doing it's bit.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Gmac

Quote from: RedHand88 on January 03, 2022, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Gmac on January 03, 2022, 07:38:49 PM
Why don't Pfizer and other companies send vaccines to poor countries if that's where variants are coming from ? No money there  ?

Which countries? India and South Africa are the 5th and 32nd biggest countries in terms of GDP in the world, not to mention China where it originated and its second!

How do you propose getting the vaccines transported at -80C, defrosted safely, drawn up and administered correctly to billions of people?

It can't be done that easily.
there's no will and no incentive either

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Gmac on January 03, 2022, 09:10:44 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 03, 2022, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Gmac on January 03, 2022, 07:38:49 PM
Why don't Pfizer and other companies send vaccines to poor countries if that's where variants are coming from ? No money there  ?

Which countries? India and South Africa are the 5th and 32nd biggest countries in terms of GDP in the world, not to mention China where it originated and its second!

How do you propose getting the vaccines transported at -80C, defrosted safely, drawn up and administered correctly to billions of people?

It can't be done that easily.
there's no will and no incentive either

it would be great if we had more of a socialist system but pharma companies are a capitalist dream. There is some irony in there....

Armagh18

Quote from: armaghniac on January 02, 2022, 09:53:13 PM
There is a lot of talk of obesity and suchlike, largely in an attempt to imply that if people who are ill from Covid then it is their own fault and they shouldn't be stopping people going to the pub. No doubt reduced obesity would have health benefits generally, but it would have very little effect on the Covid pandemic. There are probably other genetic factors that predispose people to Covid, these have not been fully tabulated.
I thought it was fairly accepted that obesity was a risk factor for covid? Even if it wasnt fitter healthier people are gonna put less pressure on the NHS than an unhealthy fat population covid or no covid.

armaghniac

Perhaps people need a better mask
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Last Man

Genetics load the gun but diet and lifestyle fire the bullet.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Last Man on January 04, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
Genetics load the gun but diet and lifestyle fire the bullet.

Well my diet and lifestyle over this period certainly put me at risk!!  ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59865108

What ive been thinking all along.

id be interested to see the poll re-run on boosters which was 50/50 here few weeks back. Id chance it and say it be 60/40 now for those not taking one.

Rossfan

Almost 900 hospitalised with Covid in the 26 this morning.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Rossfan on January 04, 2022, 10:45:27 AM
Almost 900 hospitalised with Covid in the 26 this morning.

Thats bad, id love to see the breakdown(age, vaccinated, pre-existing etc). I think that's where this is ultimately going with future strategy, its a very tricky situation to balance right- vaccines v vulnerable groups v keeping people at work and in education.