China Coronavirus

[seafoid]

What is the barometer of whether a lockdown is successful?

The barometer surely is whether you come out of it?

If lockdown 1 was unsuccessful we would never have come out of it! Same with 2.

3 doesn't look as successful mind you but I do think variants etc are coming into play here.

Lockdowns are about buying time, reducing pressure on the health system and reducing incidence rates.
In the pre Christmas lockdown in London , incidence rates increased because of the new Covid variant.
So this increased pressure on the health system.

[imtommygunn]

Exactly.

[tyroneman]

Is there not a danger that as people get vaccinated they start to become careless about distancing, masks, handwashing etc?

Just because you are vaccinated does not mean you can't spread it, but this message may get lost, or the old 'I'm alright jack' may kick in....

[Angelo]

Some argue that the danger is that it keeps spreading among the young leading to more and more mutations that any vaccine could keep up with.

BINGO.

If there is a large enough pool of people where it can continue to circulate, then it'll continue to mutate. The more people its circulating among, the more mutations can happen. The more mutations there are then the more likely it is that one of them is very bad for everyone.

A bit like......

Dare I say it.


The flu

[JoG2]

First dose with 100% protection against severe illness and hospitalisation
Off course lockdown has worked to get it down
My point is why continue to lockdown when hospitals won't be under pressure
When you put cases low along with the vaccination why continue to lockdown
To many people getting to comfortable in lockdown

[/b]

Really? I wouldn't know any tbh

Really good news re the plan to vaccinate all over 65s by the end of Feb. Thankfully, speaking with alot of health professionals over the last month there has been a huge uptake re vaccines. Good news that the resident arsehole on here and the likes on Anne McCloskey on social media, though very loud, repetitive, dangerous and vocal are very much in the minority.

A wee weekend to Donegal on the stout (outdoor beer garden) and football is on the horizon!

[Angelo]

First dose with 100% protection against severe illness and hospitalisation
Off course lockdown has worked to get it down
My point is why continue to lockdown when hospitals won't be under pressure
When you put cases low along with the vaccination why continue to lockdown
To many people getting to comfortable in lockdown

[/b]


Really good news re the plan to vaccinate all over 65s by the end of Feb. Thankfully, speaking with alot of health professionals over the last month there has been a huge uptake re vaccines. Good news that the resident arsehole on here and the likes on Anne McCloskey on social media, though very loud, repetitive, dangerous and vocal are very much in the minority.

This is the sort of dangerous, dogmatic rhetoric that is put out there from the likes of you. I have not seen one poster here who has told another poster to not get the vaccine, I have not seen one poster here who has tried to shame and abuse another poster when they have said they are getting the vaccine. On the contrary, we have the kind of nasty and small minded comments from you above.

If you're referring to me, as I have said from the very start. If someone wants to get a vaccine then I've no issue with that, that is their personal choice and they are free to do whatever pleases them.

I on the other hand have justified concerns about the vaccine and won't be taking it, as I am entitled to. I accept other people's choices but we can see from you post that you are the type of person who wants to shame and bully people into your own personal beliefs and then we see the sleekit way if which you insult a poster without the courage to name them and also how you try and misrepresent their views.

[HiMucker]

First dose with 100% protection against severe illness and hospitalisation
Off course lockdown has worked to get it down
My point is why continue to lockdown when hospitals won't be under pressure
When you put cases low along with the vaccination why continue to lockdown
To many people getting to comfortable in lockdown

[/b]

Really? I wouldn't know any tbh

Really good news re the plan to vaccinate all over 65s by the end of Feb. Thankfully, speaking with alot of health professionals over the last month there has been a huge uptake re vaccines. Good news that the resident arsehole on here and the likes on Anne McCloskey on social media, though very loud, repetitive, dangerous and vocal are very much in the minority.

A wee weekend to Donegal on the stout (outdoor beer garden) and football is on the horizon!

Keep talking, Im nearly there!

[JoG2]

First dose with 100% protection against severe illness and hospitalisation
Off course lockdown has worked to get it down
My point is why continue to lockdown when hospitals won't be under pressure
When you put cases low along with the vaccination why continue to lockdown
To many people getting to comfortable in lockdown

[/b]

Really? I wouldn't know any tbh

Really good news re the plan to vaccinate all over 65s by the end of Feb. Thankfully, speaking with alot of health professionals over the last month there has been a huge uptake re vaccines. Good news that the resident arsehole on here and the likes on Anne McCloskey on social media, though very loud, repetitive, dangerous and vocal are very much in the minority.

A wee weekend to Donegal on the stout (outdoor beer garden) and football is on the horizon!

Keep talking, Im nearly there!

We don't ask for much! 

[screenexile]

Who the f**k are these people comfortable with lockdown??

What a load of bollocks!!

[Milltown Row2]

First dose with 100% protection against severe illness and hospitalisation
Off course lockdown has worked to get it down
My point is why continue to lockdown when hospitals won't be under pressure
When you put cases low along with the vaccination why continue to lockdown
To many people getting to comfortable in lockdown

[/b]


Really good news re the plan to vaccinate all over 65s by the end of Feb. Thankfully, speaking with alot of health professionals over the last month there has been a huge uptake re vaccines. Good news that the resident arsehole on here and the likes on Anne McCloskey on social media, though very loud, repetitive, dangerous and vocal are very much in the minority.

This is the sort of dangerous, dogmatic rhetoric that is put out there from the likes of you. I have not seen one poster here who has told another poster to not get the vaccine, I have not seen one poster here who has tried to shame and abuse another poster when they have said they are getting the vaccine. On the contrary, we have the kind of nasty and small minded comments from you above.

If you're referring to me, as I have said from the very start. If someone wants to get a vaccine then I've no issue with that, that is their personal choice and they are free to do whatever pleases them.

I on the other hand have justified concerns about the vaccine and won't be taking it, as I am entitled to. I accept other people's choices but we can see from you post that you are the type of person who wants to shame and bully people into your own personal beliefs and then we see the sleekit way if which you insult a poster without the courage to name them and also how you try and misrepresent their views.

Your mate believes the first dose is 100% protection and we should all be out of lockdown because of it, can you have a word in his ear and tell him he's talking shite?

[Angelo]

First dose with 100% protection against severe illness and hospitalisation
Off course lockdown has worked to get it down
My point is why continue to lockdown when hospitals won't be under pressure
When you put cases low along with the vaccination why continue to lockdown
To many people getting to comfortable in lockdown

[/b]


Really good news re the plan to vaccinate all over 65s by the end of Feb. Thankfully, speaking with alot of health professionals over the last month there has been a huge uptake re vaccines. Good news that the resident arsehole on here and the likes on Anne McCloskey on social media, though very loud, repetitive, dangerous and vocal are very much in the minority.

This is the sort of dangerous, dogmatic rhetoric that is put out there from the likes of you. I have not seen one poster here who has told another poster to not get the vaccine, I have not seen one poster here who has tried to shame and abuse another poster when they have said they are getting the vaccine. On the contrary, we have the kind of nasty and small minded comments from you above.

If you're referring to me, as I have said from the very start. If someone wants to get a vaccine then I've no issue with that, that is their personal choice and they are free to do whatever pleases them.

I on the other hand have justified concerns about the vaccine and won't be taking it, as I am entitled to. I accept other people's choices but we can see from you post that you are the type of person who wants to shame and bully people into your own personal beliefs and then we see the sleekit way if which you insult a poster without the courage to name them and also how you try and misrepresent their views.

Your mate believes the first dose is 100% protection and we should all be out of lockdown because of it, can you have a word in his ear and tell him he's talking shite?

I don't feel it my need to question other people's attitude toward the vaccine, they can view it as something that protects them and go off and get it if they so wish, that's their personal choice and it's not for me to say.

That's the difference between me and you, I don't try and ram my opinions on others - I am tolerant to other people's views and feel people should be so towards mine, alas you don't and try and bully and shame anyone who doesn't hold your views.

[armaghniac]

Because their own vaccine has been slow to develop, Sanofi are going to lease their plant to Biontech. So that is another substantial increase in vaccine production for the summer. Things are going to ramp up, 2.5% in January will not mean 20% in August but probably 70%.

[trailer]

Because their own vaccine has been slow to develop, Sanofi are going to lease their plant to Biontech. So that is another substantial increase in vaccine production for the summer. Things are going to ramp up, 2.5% in January will not mean 20% in August but probably 70%.

f**k sake. Big pharma, working together, saving lives.

[Angelo]

Because their own vaccine has been slow to develop, Sanofi are going to lease their plant to Biontech. So that is another substantial increase in vaccine production for the summer. Things are going to ramp up, 2.5% in January will not mean 20% in August but probably 70%.

f**k sake. Big pharma, working together, making profits

Fixed that for you.

[Milltown Row2]

First dose with 100% protection against severe illness and hospitalisation
Off course lockdown has worked to get it down
My point is why continue to lockdown when hospitals won't be under pressure
When you put cases low along with the vaccination why continue to lockdown
To many people getting to comfortable in lockdown

[/b]


Really good news re the plan to vaccinate all over 65s by the end of Feb. Thankfully, speaking with alot of health professionals over the last month there has been a huge uptake re vaccines. Good news that the resident arsehole on here and the likes on Anne McCloskey on social media, though very loud, repetitive, dangerous and vocal are very much in the minority.

This is the sort of dangerous, dogmatic rhetoric that is put out there from the likes of you. I have not seen one poster here who has told another poster to not get the vaccine, I have not seen one poster here who has tried to shame and abuse another poster when they have said they are getting the vaccine. On the contrary, we have the kind of nasty and small minded comments from you above.

If you're referring to me, as I have said from the very start. If someone wants to get a vaccine then I've no issue with that, that is their personal choice and they are free to do whatever pleases them.

I on the other hand have justified concerns about the vaccine and won't be taking it, as I am entitled to. I accept other people's choices but we can see from you post that you are the type of person who wants to shame and bully people into your own personal beliefs and then we see the sleekit way if which you insult a poster without the courage to name them and also how you try and misrepresent their views.

Your mate believes the first dose is 100% protection and we should all be out of lockdown because of it, can you have a word in his ear and tell him he's talking shite?

I don't feel it my need to question other people's attitude toward the vaccine, they can view it as something that protects them and go off and get it if they so wish, that's their personal choice and it's not for me to say.

That's the difference between me and you, I don't try and ram my opinions on others - I am tolerant to other people's views and feel people should be so towards mine, alas you don't and try and bully and shame anyone who doesn't hold your views.

Oh where do I start?