China Coronavirus

[Rossfan]

A number of hospitals getting her tight in the north

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0110/1188811-coronavirus-northern-ireland/

Letterkenny under severe pressure too I hear.

[RadioGAAGAA]

god knows what the ventilator scenario is.

By all accounts, if you have to go onto a full ventilator, you are 50:50 to make it.

Early intervention with positive pressure air into the lungs and the drug cocktails seems to be the way to go if possible - but of course, if there are no beds, staff and equipment free then that intervention is impossible.

So basically, expect the case mortality rate to spike too.

[Smurfy123]

I would say the NHS will be under severe pressure in next week or 2 more than ever before
Some Celebrity Doctors changing their tune now on news stations
For months it was the vaccine is the only way out of this and the saviour
Now the same doctor saying he doesn't know why everyone is relying so much on the vaccine
What a fool

[imtommygunn]

god knows what the ventilator scenario is.

By all accounts, if you have to go onto a full ventilator, you are 50:50 to make it.

Early intervention with positive pressure air into the lungs and the drug cocktails seems to be the way to go if possible - but of course, if there are no beds, staff and equipment free then that intervention is impossible.

So basically, expect the case mortality rate to spike too.

Yeah full ventilator and you are in big bother it would seem

On the letterkenny note Donegal seems to have a horrendously high rate for whatever reason.

[trueblue1234]

I would say the NHS will be under severe pressure in next week or 2 more than ever before
Some Celebrity Doctors changing their tune now on news stations
For months it was the vaccine is the only way out of this and the saviour
Now the same doctor saying he doesn't know why everyone is relying so much on the vaccine
What a fool

The vaccine is the way out of the current lockdowns. However we already know it's going to take time to roll out. People behaving as if the vaccine has flicked a switch is the problem.

[imtommygunn]

You wouldn't think there was a lockdown here at all. The next few weeks are going to be tough tough weeks in the hospitals and if this lockdown doesn't slow down the load it could be like that for the foreseeable future. Vaccinations aren't coming any time soon for the most of us.

[trailer]

People not taking personal responsibility. Cutting their interactions. I know at least 4 families who've been struck down. Adult children and elderly parents and there is no doubt they were interacting over Christmas outside of the restrictions.

[BennyCake]

Something of interest:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F6A6RFDprIs

That clip is from August. If something good was going to happen from it, suerly it would have happened by now.

Well, you have to ask yourself, if that drug really does work, why hasn't it been used??

[Angelo]

And what we know of the after effects or side effects of the vaccine that you demand people to take?

If you are expected to live at least the next ten years, in your world of minimal vaccinations, that means you will contract this at some point.

So, in reality what you are asking is "are any side effects of the vaccine less than any side effects of getting full covid?"

100% speculative.

We don't even know if the vaccine works or what side effects it brings. But there is a dangerous dogmatic view from people like you that people should go out and get this regardless of the potential consequences.

The data on Covid shows it does not impact people of my demograph. The data on vaccines shows nothing to suggest it stops you contracting or transmitting the virus, only that it minimises the symptoms.

So what's the upside of the vaccine to people in the non-vulnerable categories?

[Angelo]

People not taking personal responsibility. Cutting their interactions. I know at least 4 families who've been struck down. Adult children and elderly parents and there is no doubt they were interacting over Christmas outside of the restrictions.

We've had nearly a full year of being told not to interact with others.

Do you think that's a sustainable strategy?

[johnnycool]

the virus will soon run out of people to infect so only then will the numbers decrease

Being infected once doesn't give immunity thereafter, in fact the general belief is that the vaccines being rolled out will need to be an annual thing.

Covid is here to stay with us for a while yet.

[Angelo]

the virus will soon run out of people to infect so only then will the numbers decrease

Being infected once doesn't give immunity thereafter, in fact the general belief is that the vaccines being rolled out will need to be an annual thing.

Covid is here to stay with us for a while yet.

This is a complete grey area which doesn't bode well for science. How have they not uncovered this yet?

[Milltown Row2]

the virus will soon run out of people to infect so only then will the numbers decrease

Being infected once doesn't give immunity thereafter, in fact the general belief is that the vaccines being rolled out will need to be an annual thing.

Covid is here to stay with us for a while yet.

This is a complete grey area which doesn't bode well for science. How have they not uncovered this yet?

So basically your strategy is stay within your own demograph, stay away from the vulnerable and those over 70. Continue that till you fall into that demograph?

That seems the best of advice on thread, close it

[GetOverTheBar]

People not taking personal responsibility. Cutting their interactions. I know at least 4 families who've been struck down. Adult children and elderly parents and there is no doubt they were interacting over Christmas outside of the restrictions.

Unfair comment.

Sure if that's the case, if you get Covid. It's your own fault for not locking yourself in the attic. You don't deserve any help for breaking the rules?

[GetOverTheBar]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55616631

74,000 in the North vaccinated (first doses, 9k have both doses).

Serious work. Let's hope that start to reflect in numbers going forward over the next 4 to 6 weeks.

Oh, seen the Queen got vaccinated over the weekend too. Good for her, was really worried for awhile.