China Coronavirus

[Keyser soze]

A lot of it is the doom and gloom merchants!

Everyone and their dog knows it's tough not getting better soon and so on!

Can you imagine growing up in Africa? Let's put it this way we've got it easy

I wonder will Africa be badly affected by Covid 19?

At the moment looks (relatively) fine. I would imagine that's due to the lack of inward travel, dense infrastructure, public transport, atms and that type of thing. Morocco, Egypt and South Africa look to have got the majority of what has hit and they would be some of the more developed African nations.

That said, considering some of the conditions/disease that is rife in Africa, this is probably something they aren't getting too worried about.

Also, this virus is especially harmful to the elderly and in less developed African countries there is a very low percentage of people over 60

I know I shouldn't but this made me laugh. 

[Itchy]

Attended a family funeral this morning. No funeral home, no visitors, no hand shaking, 15 people in the church, 15 people at the grave. Tissues, sanitisers, gloves everywhere. No after drinks or meal. Family now all sitting in their own houses on their own wondering what to do with themselves. Just a very sad and bizarre occasion.

[RedHand88]

The Imperial college paper is a grim read 

[trailer]

We must prepare for the fight of our lives. Godspeed everyone.

[APM]

Attended a family funeral this morning. No funeral home, no visitors, no hand shaking, 15 people in the church, 15 people at the grave. Tissues, sanitisers, gloves everywhere. No after drinks or meal. Family now all sitting in their own houses on their own wondering what to do with themselves. Just a very sad and bizarre occasion.

Sorry to hear that,
I have to say that when I heard of how funerals were being handled in Italy and the associated risks, it was something I thought would sorely impact upon grieving relatives during this crisis whether their bereavement was due to Coronavirus or not.  The Irish way of marking death provides a great source of comfort and the temporary loss of those customs is particularly cruel (albeit necessary) at a time when such traditions would be relied upon more than ever. 

 

[Rossfan]

You could put up with all the stuff but not having a proper funeral is a terrible situation.

[imtommygunn]

What happens in the scenario where someone does die from it? Are the family even allowed near them? The funeral unrelated to the virus is a bad situation but I don't even know the logistics of the death or the funeral of someone who dies from it. It can't be good.

In fact I really don't even want to think about it

[five points]

What happens in the scenario where someone does die from it? Are the family even allowed near them? The funeral unrelated to the virus is a bad situation but I don't even know the logistics of the death or the funeral of someone who dies from it. It can't be good.

In fact I really don't even want to think about it

As i understand it...
Closed coffin containing bodybag.
Private funeral.

[Cunny Funt]

You could put up with all the stuff but not having a proper funeral is a terrible situation.

Do you think funerals are done right here? I think they should be restricted to family and very close friends. At least the nonsense of sitting around for hours shaking hands with loads of people you don't know or rarely talk too and worse of all politicians showing up saying they are sorry for your loss is cut out now.

[seafoid]

China needs low new infection rates to look credible.

The UK had 71 deaths yesterday. CMO said 55000 true cases. Ratio.is c 1: 800

China has 3245 deaths. Multiply by 800 = 2.6 m

Official cases 81,000 or so

[armaghniac]

China needs low new infection rates to look credible.

The UK had 71 deaths yesterday. CMO said 55000 true cases. Ratio.is c 1: 800

China has 3245 deaths. Multiply by 800 = 2.6 m

Official cases 81,000 or so

I don't know where you are getting this from. Few people believe the fatality rate is as low as 0.125%, most suggest 3 or 4 times that.

[David McKeown]

What happens in the scenario where someone does die from it? Are the family even allowed near them? The funeral unrelated to the virus is a bad situation but I don't even know the logistics of the death or the funeral of someone who dies from it. It can't be good.

In fact I really don't even want to think about it

As i understand it...
Closed coffin containing bodybag.
Private funeral.

Really I had understood the virus couldn't survive the death of the host for lack of a better term and therefore provided there was a closed coffin then the only bar to a normal funeral was social distancing rules and any self isolation that has to occur because of contact between the family members and the deceased whilst they were alive.

[RadioGAAGAA]

China needs low new infection rates to look credible.

The UK had 71 deaths yesterday. CMO said 55000 true cases. Ratio.is c 1: 800

Best to stop apply blanket numbers across the board and assuming everything else is equal.

As of 9th March, estimates were that China carried out ~2800 tests per million people. The UK? Less than 350 per million.

So which country do you think is likely to have the highest ratio of unknown cases?

[RadioGAAGAA]

Really I had understood the virus couldn't survive the death of the host for lack of a better term and therefore provided there was a closed coffin then the only bar to a normal funeral was social distancing rules and any self isolation that has to occur because of contact between the family members and the deceased whilst they were alive.

It'd survive in a dead human body for a time, just as it would survive on a door handle or coat.

Yeah - it will die - but not immediately.

[Rossfan]

You could put up with all the stuff but not having a proper funeral is a terrible situation.

Do you think funerals are done right here?

Absolutely.