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[BennyCake]

3 Leicester players in isolation.

Expect to see PL games called off.

[Art Mc Crory’s Sofa]

The thing is if you order a holiday then the travel agents still have to pay their staff, the airline still has to pay theirs, the hotel still have to pay theirs. All have over heads as well. It's difficult for anyone to accept the whole financial burden be it customer, business or insurer.

You have to have a bit of sympathy for all involved. Likewise calls for the government to carry the burden aren't so simple either. Don't forget us taxpayers are the fund behind the government. Are we all content to have our taxes used to bailout people's holidays? We would rather spend it on that ahead of hospitals/roads/schools/social welfare?

I'm not saying the government should or shouldn't get involved here but obviously in the face of what is going to be the cause of the next global recession they can't just simply start signing blank checks as they did with the bank bailouts.

This is going to be harder to negotiate economically than it will be to handle in terms of public health.

[charlieTully]

All gaa activity north and south off till March 29th

[GJL]

3 Leicester players in isolation.

Expect to see PL games called off.

Be better to just call this season as a blank and start again next season...

[imtommygunn]

A very Irish catholic thing to say but what about mass??

In most places surely that's an indoor gathering of more than 100?

[armaghniac]

A very Irish catholic thing to say but what about mass??

In most places surely that's an indoor gathering of more than 100?

I would expect an announcement about same shortly.

[RadioGAAGAA]

Any idiot that booked a holiday since approx mid Feb deserves to lose it.

Anyone before that has had shit luck.

Of course, there is another side to it - hotel staff & airlines most obviously, but also beyond that, taxis, restaurants, activities etc etc.

How you strike a balance there is difficult. The hosting country's govt will have to support their tourist industry, the tourist's insurance will have to support that and the airline, and probably the tourist themselves is going to have to take a bit of a haircut unfortunately.

Govts should probably mandate a split of who takes what proportion of the hit. Otherwise its open season for the insurers to pocket the money and pay out f**k all.

[seafoid]

There was an announcement yesterday .

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-priests-advised-not-to-touch-babies-at-baptism-confirmations-may-be-postponed-1.4200101
Coronavirus: Priests advised not to touch babies at baptism; confirmations may be postponed
Priests advised to use cotton bud or glove to anoint people who are dying
about 20 hours ago
Ronan McGreevy

Priests will not touch a baby on the forehead when they are being baptised under new guidelines issued by the Irish Catholic bishops to combat the spread of coronavirus. File photograph: iStock

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Priests will no longer anoint the foreheads of people who are dying with their thumb. Instead, holy oil will be administered with a cotton bud or glove which will then be disposed of appropriately.
Similarly, priests will not touch a baby on the forehead when they are being baptised.
These, along with a ban on the sign of peace and on the passing around of collection baskets in church are among the measures announced by the Irish Catholic bishops on Wednesday to combat the spread of coronavirus or Covid-19.
The bishops have warned that many confirmation ceremonies may have to be postponed because of the spread of the virus pending future advice from the public health authorities.
"The celebration of the sacrament of confirmation will continue for now but may have to be postponed at very short notice in the light of future advice from the public health authorities".
They also asked that people with underlying health conditions and who are considered vulnerable from a health perspective, should not attend confirmation ceremonies.
Communion will only be received into the hand and not on the tongue. Holy water fonts will remain empty at this time.
Mass-goers have been asked to keep a safe distance from one another. Elderly people with underlying medical conditions have been advised to stay away from funerals. Sympathisers have been told not to shake hands with the bereaved.
Hand sanitisers will be at the entrances to all churches and priests will sanitise their hands before and after distributing communion.
Priests are being asked to provide an alternative to the practice of passing collection baskets through the congregation. "The faithful are asked to continue their generous contributions to the upkeep of their parish," the bishops added.

[BennyCake]

A very Irish catholic thing to say but what about mass??

In most places surely that's an indoor gathering of more than 100?

I'd say your season ticket will be automatically stamped, so you won't lose any points needed to get into heaven.

[BennyCake]

People flocking to supermarkets in their hundreds.

Hardly a good idea considering the advice given 

[trailer]

Meant to go to Disney Paris on Monday with the kids, booked it last summer. Disney aren't closing/won't close so can't claim any money back through travel agency. Checked with the travel insurance and you don't have a claim if you decide not to travel because you are worried about the situation as it is, you have to have it to claim! Travel agents are going on like there's nothing happening at all. It stinks. Even the kids are worried about going now. I agree we shouldn't be going but that's a big bill to swallow and no way to claim any of it back. All paid for too - anybody know anyway around it?

Feel your pain, as mentioned it's all about the money, hopefully folk stop booking in advance after this is all over and give the travel and entertainment the kick up the ass it needs. Imagine the money they have a year or so in advance of your trip.

Government is to blame here.  Insurances won't kick in until the Government bites the bullet (and not all insurances will kick-in even then). They are going to need to put in place a hardline approach eventually, and better to do so soon while it has a chance of being effective. 

Anyone with a bit of sense is way ahead of the government and in reality social distancing is already going on with many businesses cancelling meetings and events and individuals / families cancelling holidays and trips. Meanwhile, government is slavishly sticking to the same line and resultingly, so too are many business and people. 

Absolute madness.  Some nonsense from talking heads on TV about the risk of people rebelling against a lockdown and how strong measures now could be counter productive. Most people I know are ready for action now to avert the kind of disaster that is playing out in Italy.

Until government give the kind of leadership that is required, we are going to be sitting in limbo with some people being highly responsible and others being highly irresponsible and people like yourself stuck in a quandry between going on holiday and cancelling and the government advice letting the travel insurer off the hook. 

Being told today that even if the government come out and warn against travel to certain areas you still can't be refunded. They have to ban all travel to whatever country you are heading to. Travel companies make you feel like a dipstick when you try to talk to them - nothing to worry about! Even to rearrange the park/hotel package and lose the flights you have to pick dates now when you've no idea what's ahead of us and you lose your ATOL cover because it's no longer a package. Pricks.

The principle of my child's school is in negotiation with the travel company after school ski trip on Saturday cancelled, bunch of greedy whores, hopefully this whole sorry episode changes the landscape for these companies, they have 50K from this school for a trip that can't happen and they are in negotiations about any possible refund!

Your understanding of business and basic economics is truly shocking. That company will most likely have paid hotels, flights, transfers. They'll have wages to pay. What do you want them to do? Not pay wages? Put local people out of jobs? Please give me your solution?

We paid for insurance, has the travel company no insurance?

By the way when you book a hotel do you pay the full amount before you arrive?

f**k me you're full of shite.

[Boycey]

People flocking to supermarkets in their hundreds.

Hardly a good idea considering the advice given 

I was down the town it's absolutely mental here, apparently the guards were called to Lidl earlier. I met the local milk agent and he said it was way worse than the time of the snow. No milk or bread to be got

[trailer]

People flocking to supermarkets in their hundreds.

Hardly a good idea considering the advice given 

I was down the town it's absolutely mental here, apparently the guards were called to Lidl earlier. I met the local milk agent and he said it was way worse than the time of the snow. No milk or bread to be got

Why are people reacting like this. It's irrational.

[trueblue1234]

People flocking to supermarkets in their hundreds.

Hardly a good idea considering the advice given 

I was down the town it's absolutely mental here, apparently the guards were called to Lidl earlier. I met the local milk agent and he said it was way worse than the time of the snow. No milk or bread to be got

Why are people reacting like this. It's irrational.

I'm guessing people are trying to get as much into the house as possible to minimise the amount of times they will have to back out to the shops again if things get bad.

[seafoid]

Coronavirus: Ireland's play-off in Slovakia likely to be postponed

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/coronavirus-ireland-s-play-off-in-slovakia-likely-to-be-postponed-1.4201108
Only residents admitted into Slovakia as government declare a state of emergency
about an hour ago Updated: 13 minutes ago
Emmet Malone
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The Euro 2020 play-off game between Slovakia and the Republic of Ireland scheduled for March 26th now looks all but certain to be postponed. Photograph: Sam Bagnall/Getty
The Euro 2020 play-off game between Slovakia and the Republic of Ireland scheduled for March 26th now looks all but certain to be postponed. Photograph: Sam Bagnall/Getty


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The Euro 2020 play-off game between Slovakia and the Republic of Ireland, scheduled for March 26th, is almost certain to be postponed after the association there requested a postponement of the fixture from Uefa. Europe's football federation says that it will discuss its response to the current crisis with all of its members in the early part of next week.

In a statement, posted on its website on Thursday afternoon, the Slovak FA (SFZ) said that: "As the situation surrounding the spread of coronavirus and the number of infections with this virus is increasing in Slovakia and also in neighboring European countries, the SFZ decided . . . to send a letter to UEFA.

"In this official document, SFZ asks for the postponement of the ME 2020 Slovakia - Ireland qualifying match to be scheduled for Thursday, March 26, 2020 at the National Football Stadium, to another time.

"As the main organiser of this event, the SFZ takes full responsibility for all decisions related to this match and does not want to risk the health of all concerned."

Uefa has yet to respond to this request, or to a similar one from the Bosnia-Herzegovina association in relation to their play-off game against Northern Ireland, but it seems pretty much unthinkable that the game could now proceed in the current circumstances. The SFZ announcement comes afterthe country's Prime Minister, Peter Pellegrini, said that security on the country's borders is to be tightened and that travel by train and bus from abroad halted.

He also announced that more stringent border checks are to be introduced. Slovakia had already been testing some of those who arrived at its airports for coronavirus but Pellegrini has now said that only those who actually live in the country will be allowed in with everyone who is subject to 14 days of quarantine.


   
Shopping malls are to be closed at weekends with only shops selling food and pharmacies permitted to remain open.

The measures are a stepping up of already widespread restrictions aimed at containing the spread of the virus in Slovakia where 10 cases have been confirmed to date. On Wednesday, the government approved a proposal to supplement police services in towns and cities with members of the armed forces so as to maintain public order if required.

At the time of writing, it was not clear how long the new restrictions are intended to be in place for but given the spread of the virus and the timeframe outlined elsewhere, including Ireland, it does seem unlikely that anything approaching normality will have returned by the 26th, when the game is supposed to be played.

It had already been announced on Tuesday that it would take place behind closed doors if it went ahead at all and there were already major issues for the hosts in relation to the availability of players based in other countries, most obviously Italy, where around half a dozen of the their regular squad members play their club football.

Those concerns, however, seem to have been overtaken by events and amid reports that a suspension of this season's Champions league and Europa League may be imminent, by the time of the video conference with member associations planned by Uefa for next Tuesday, the focus may well be firmly on whether Euro 2020 itself goes ahead as planned.