Things that make you go What the F**k?

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GetOverTheBar

#6225
February 13, 2020, 02:43:50 PM
''There was relief,'' Bilott says, understated nearly to the point of self-effacement. ''We were able to deliver what we had promised to these folks seven years earlier. Especially since, for all those years, DuPont had been saying that we were lying, trying to scare and mislead people. Now we had a scientific answer.''

As of October, 3,535 plaintiffs have filed personal-injury lawsuits against DuPont. The first member of this group to go to trial was a kidney-cancer survivor named Carla Bartlett. In October, Bartlett was awarded $1.6 million. DuPont plans to appeal. This may have ramifications well beyond Bartlett's case: Hers is one of five ''bellwether'' cases that will be tried over the course of this year. After that, DuPont may choose to settle with every afflicted class member, using the outcome of the bellwether cases to determine settlement awards. Or DuPont can fight each suit individually, a tactic that tobacco companies have used to fight personal-injury lawsuits. At the rate of four trials a year, DuPont would continue to fight PFOA cases until the year 2890.

DuPont's continuing refusal to accept responsibility is maddening to Bilott. ''To think that you've negotiated in good faith a deal that everybody has abided by and worked on for seven years, you reach a point where certain things were to be resolved but then remain contested,'' he says. ''I think about the clients who have been waiting for this, many of whom are sick or have died while waiting. It's infuriating.''


As part of its agreement with the E.P.A., DuPont ceased production and use of PFOA in 2013. The five other companies in the world that produce PFOA are also phasing out production. DuPont, which is currently negotiating a merger with Dow Chemical, last year severed its chemical businesses: They have been spun off into a new corporation called Chemours. The new company has replaced PFOA with similar fluorine-based compounds designed to biodegrade more quickly — the alternative considered and then discarded by DuPont more than 20 years ago. Like PFOA, these new substances have not come under any regulation from the E.P.A. When asked about the safety of the new chemicals, Chemours replied in a statement: ''A significant body of data demonstrates that these alternative chemistries can be used safely.''

Last May, 200 scientists from a variety of disciplines signed the Madrid Statement, which expresses concern about the production of all fluorochemicals, or PFASs, including those that have replaced PFOA. PFOA and its replacements are suspected to belong to a large class of artificial compounds called endocrine-disrupting chemicals; these compounds, which include chemicals used in the production of pesticides, plastics and gasoline, interfere with human reproduction and metabolism and cause cancer, thyroid problems and nervous-system disorders. In the last five years, however, a new wave of endocrinology research has found that even extremely low doses of such chemicals can create significant health problems. Among the Madrid scientists' recommendations: ''Enact legislation to require only essential uses of PFASs'' and ''Whenever possible, avoid products containing, or manufactured using, PFASs. These include many products that are stain-resistant, waterproof or nonstick.''

When asked about the Madrid Statement, Dan Turner, DuPont's head of global media relations, wrote in an email: ''DuPont does not believe the Madrid Statement reflects a true consideration of the available data on alternatives to long-chain perfluorochemicals, such as PFOA. DuPont worked for more than a decade, with oversight from regulators, to introduce its alternatives. Extensive data has been developed, demonstrating that these alternatives are much more rapidly eliminated from the body than PFOA, and have improved health safety profiles. We are confident that these alternative chemistries can be used safely — they are well characterized, and the data has been used to register them with environmental agencies around the world.''

Every year Rob Bilott writes a letter to the E.P.A. and the West Virginia D.E.P., urging the regulation of PFOA in drinking water. In 2009, the E.P.A. set a ''provisional'' limit of 0.4 parts per billion for short-term exposure, but has never finalized that figure. This means that local water districts are under no obligation to tell customers whether PFOA is in their water. In response to Bilott's most recent letter, the E.P.A. claimed that it would announce a ''lifetime health advisory level for PFOA'' by ''early 2016.''

This advisory level, if indeed announced, might be a source of comfort to future generations. But if you are a sentient being reading this article in 2016, you already have PFOA in your blood. It is in your parents' blood, your children's blood, your lover's blood. How did it get there? Through the air, through your diet, through your use of nonstick cookware, through your umbilical cord. Or you might have drunk tainted water. The Environmental Working Group has found manufactured fluoro­chemicals present in 94 water districts across 27 states (see sidebar beginning on Page 38). Residents of Issaquah, Wash.; Wilmington, Del.; Colorado Springs; and Nassau County on Long Island are among those whose water has a higher concentration of fluorochemicals than that in some of the districts included in Rob Bilott's class-action suit. The drinking water in Parkersburg itself, whose water district was not included in the original class-action suit and has failed to compel DuPont to pay for a filtration system, is currently tainted with high levels of PFOA. Most residents appear not to know this.

Where scientists have tested for the presence of PFOA in the world, they have found it. PFOA is in the blood or vital organs of Atlantic salmon, swordfish, striped mullet, gray seals, common cormorants, Alaskan polar bears, brown pelicans, sea turtles, sea eagles, Midwestern bald eagles, California sea lions and Laysan albatrosses on Sand Island, a wildlife refuge on Midway Atoll, in the middle of the North Pacific Ocean, about halfway between North America and Asia.

''We see a situation,'' Joe Kiger says, ''that has gone from Washington Works, to statewide, to the United States, and now it's everywhere, it's global. We've taken the cap off something here. But it's just not DuPont. Good God. There are 60,000 unregulated chemicals out there right now. We have no idea what we're taking.''

Bilott doesn't regret fighting DuPont for the last 16 years, nor for letting PFOA consume his career. But he is still angry. ''The thought that DuPont could get away with this for this long,'' Bilott says, his tone landing halfway between wonder and rage, ''that they could keep making a profit off it, then get the agreement of the governmental agencies to slowly phase it out, only to replace it with an alternative with unknown human effects — we told the agencies about this in 2001, and they've essentially done nothing. That's 14 years of this stuff continuing to be used, continuing to be in the drinking water all over the country. DuPont just quietly switches over to the next substance. And in the meantime, they fight everyone who has been injured by it.''

Bilott is currently prosecuting Wolf v. DuPont, the second of the personal-injury cases filed by the members of his class. The plaintiff, John M. Wolf of Parkersburg, claims that PFOA in his drinking water caused him to develop ulcerative colitis. That trial begins in March. When it concludes, there will be 3,533 cases left to try.

Correction: Jan. 24, 2016
An article on Jan 10. about legal action against DuPont for chemical pollution referred incorrectly to DuPont's response in the 1970s when the company discovered high concentrations of PFOA in the blood of workers at Washington Works, a DuPont factory. DuPont withheld the information from the E.P.A., not from its workers. The article also misstated the year DuPont agreed to a $16.5 million settlement with the E.P.A. It was 2005, not 2006. In addition, the article misidentified the water district where a resident received a letter from the district noting that PFOA had been detected in the drinking water. It was Lubeck, W.Va. — not Little Hocking, Ohio. The article also misidentified the district where water tested positive for PFOA at seven times the limit. It was Little Hocking, not Lubeck. And the article misidentified the city in Washington State that has fluorochemicals in its drink-ing water. It is Issaquah, not Seattle.

macdanger2

#6226
February 13, 2020, 04:25:57 PM
Thanks GOTB

Shocking stuff

fearsiuil

#6227
February 14, 2020, 09:41:24 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on February 13, 2020, 11:48:42 AM
This should be getting more air time over here. This stuff is still being produced and used today. Dupont have a factory outside Derry as well.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/magazine/the-lawyer-who-became-duponts-worst-nightmare.html

Shocking, revealing, tragic.

laoislad

#6228
February 19, 2020, 10:28:32 PM
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

Rudi

#6229
February 20, 2020, 01:24:29 PM
If ever there was proof, that all people do not get equally treated.  >:(

Milltown Row2

#6233
February 25, 2020, 08:56:11 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 25, 2020, 12:35:01 AM
Someone has too much time on their hands

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51618159

Planked for 5 minutes before, body was shaking for a minute before I dropped, over 8 hours and 15 minutes is madness! And he's 62!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Denn Forever

#6235
February 25, 2020, 04:55:28 PM
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

BennyCake

#6237
February 25, 2020, 05:32:32 PM
The whole place is off its trolley.

Ambrose

#6239
February 26, 2020, 12:21:01 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 25, 2020, 05:07:04 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 25, 2020, 04:55:28 PM
Careful where parking.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0225/1117448-rathcoole/

Mother of 3. Christ.

Medical and psychiatric assistance is being made available to her in custody.

Maybe if these services has been available to this young woman beforehand this would never have happened. Tragedy for everyone concerned.
You can't live off history and tradition forever
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